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What Drugs Have You Not Done and Why?

Puc,

I'm with you. I respect drug use as an individual's decision and as a recreational thing, but addiction is onbe of the saddest things I have ever seen.

I haven't used anything, execpt for the occasional "green monster" in school.
 
Star - if you want to know about DMT, go to www.bluelight.nu You can find anything you want to know there.

Matt -- Me to...

I honestly believe that the best defense against addiction (and just about every other danger in life) is knowledge. Very rarely will you find an addict who can explain the neurobiology of the the substances he is taking:)
 
DMT causes intense visual hallucinations and other psychedelic phenomena. It has been mostly encountered in the technologically developed world as a pink (cool) crystalline powder, which was smoked or injected. This caused nearly instant, brief, and intense trips. Peaks occur immediately and last around 10 minutes, with another 30 or so minutes of mild effects.

5-Me-DMT is a close relative of DMT. 5-Me-DMT is reported to be about 4 times as potent as DMT and is often regarded as preferable to DMT. 5-Me-DMT has most of the psychedelic qualities as DMT but does not cause visual hallucinations. It follows the same time course.

Bufotenine (5-OH-DMT) is another DMT relative. This compound is vaguely referred to as "noxious" by Jonathan Ott. Apparently 10mg of pure 5-OH-DMT injected is enough to cause "dramatic circulatory crises." There appears to be debate over the psychedelic qualities of bufotenine. However, McLeod & Sitaram, Shulgin, and Fabins & Hawkings all report the presence of psychotomimetic effects. Bufotenine causes anxiety, circulatory distress, skin flushing, and percieved color distortions. Injected doses of 16 mg (over 3 min. IV drip) have been reported. At this dose, the symptoms of mild skin flushing to extreme purple cast appear. Subjects also report a great deal of psychological distress and fear at this dose. Doses of 8 mg produce mild skin flushing and increased anxiety. Doses of 2-4 mg of bufotenine do not produce hallucinogenic effects. The above discussed negative side effects at 16 mg last for approximately 10 minutes. Other side effects reported are sweating, nausea, yellowed vision, and perception of colored spots. So it appears that bufotenine is a nasty drug to be avoided, Not only does it tend to induce panic, it also appears to have the potential for a fatal overdose, although no case studies to this effect have been found for humans.

Other DMT relatives exist, but are not of great importance here. Some are, however, psychoactive.

DMT in the past has only been used by smoking or injecting. Oral use was completely ineffective. It turns out that ancient tribal cultures solved that problem aeons ago, and have been dosing up the whole time. Now THAT'S technology. By combining plants that contained MAOIs (monoamine oxidase inhibitors) and other plants containing DMT, the DMT would become active orally. MAOIs block the destruction of DMT in the digestive track and in the brain. So, with MAOIs, DMT can be eaten and also becomes more potent. MAOIs also increase the potency of smoked DMT. The effect of the orally administered DMT with MOAI lengthens in time and decreases in intensity. Typical plateau period is 10-40 minutes, after a hour delay with low buzz for an hour after the plateau. Great for people who don't like the time investment of most psychedelics.

MAOIs are reported to work for psilocybin ('shrooms) and mescaline. Subjective reports are that MAOIs double their potency. I hypothesize that it will also potentiate lysergic acid (woodrose and morning-glories). The effect of MAOIs on LSD appears debated in the literature. Some report no effect, others report significant potentiation. Some have very enthusiastically insisted that MAOIs double or triple the potency of LSD.

The ancient solution mentioned above is the ayahuasca potion. This potion has been produced, in one form and name or another, throughout Central America and South America for quite some time. The most commonly referred to potion is made by combining ayahuasca, a jungle vine, and yopo, leaves from a small bush. The ayahuasca provides the MAOIs and the yopo provides DMT. Occasional, mescaline bearing cacti are added. The potion was usually used ceremonial for healing, divining, and teaching. Often there are reports of blue glows and jaguars, a holy animal in many endogenous South American cultures. I have been told that McKenna reports that eskimos given an ayahuasca type potion reported seeing large cats, which, of course, are not arctic animals. I however, have found (from admittedly little reading) McKenna's work to be questionable and less than scientific. However, his reports often do parallel others.

MAOIs are a class of drugs that all do the same thing: prevent the destruction of monoamines (like DMT). One MAOI is harmaline. Harmaline is easily obtained. Syrian rue is an excellent source. Three grams of seed, extracted with the DMT or eaten alone should suffice. Harmaline containing plants can also be smoked for a more rapid onset. Doses over three grams do not add more potency. Caution should be used with MAOIs. Large doses are hallucinogenic in and of themselves. Large doses are unpleasant and sometimes fatal.
 
Warik said:
All of them.

WhY? Because I've seen the results of other people doing them.

-Warik

I've seen it destroy members of my family and it kills the rest of us to have to see it. They never appealed to me, and I'm not one to give into peer pressure.
 
I snorted boogy once but will never try it again because it felt soooo good. But I was itchy for hours.

I would not reccomend it if you are around it alot, you may find yourself giving in to the drug.

My close friend probably spends 200-300 a week on it. He hid it from me for years then I found out and tried it. I tried taking him to rehab but things fell through. He told me it is just to easy to say "yes" when it is in front of him. He snorts no iv.

Bootyshaker
 
K, I am not up on slang.....what is boogy? So sounds like DMT is like LSD? Yuk!! I like shrooms though...woohooo!!

Star
 
Rex said:


I've seen it destroy members of my family and it kills the rest of us to have to see it. They never appealed to me, and I'm not one to give into peer pressure.

Yup... which is exactly why I've never used any of them. I have a friend who lives on weed i.e. the "harmless drug" that everyone preaches about. He acts like a complete bumbling fucking idiot 24/7. No thanks. I think I'll be a drug free loser instead.

-Warik
 
Star said:
K, I am not up on slang.....what is boogy? So sounds like DMT is like LSD? Yuk!! I like shrooms though...woohooo!!

Star

Boogy is : junk, nember 4, dragon in other words heroin and in more other words STAY THE FUCK AWAY MY MAN!!
 
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