what are first timers being told these days?

[Nathan]

It's weird reading things and more or less knowing the answers now. Docs typically prescribe around 100mg/week of test for HRT - or so my doc told me. I would say 250mg is plenty, especially for a firs ttime cycle. 350mg will give anyone everything they could ask for for their first cycle and more if they train and eat right. I've known too many guys with good habits take that approach and gain far more than guys with a worse work ethic taking mroe drugs. You just don't need a lot.

 

[Acela]

it was obvious that i packed on weight but i dressed in over sized clothes to hide it. but the main problem was it was definatley uncomfortable packing on all the weight so quick.

I hear ya...4months ago i weighed about 165 ish and i checked in today @ 190 (i have made DRAMATIC changes to both diet and lifestyle) and actually my cycle is quite modest ....by EF standards... 400/400 T.est E & E.Q week 12....i am having a hard time bending over to tie my shoes....its funny though, my waist has gone down a belt loop its just "weird" having this much more mass...i've actually bumped into walls misjudging my shoulders walking through a door!

 

[Hard2Beat]

I reccomend 1200 lol..

 

[layinback]

if you cant gain on 250 test for 10 wks first cycle.....your are gonna have a helluva time body building and ditto what nelson said.

 

[heavy_duty]

LOL
lot of guy at my gym misjudge their lats!

I hear ya...4months ago i weighed about 165 ish and i checked in today @ 190 (i have made DRAMATIC changes to both diet and lifestyle) and actually my cycle is quite modest ....by EF standards... 400/400 T.est E & E.Q week 12....i am having a hard time bending over to tie my shoes....its funny though, my waist has gone down a belt loop its just "weird" having this much more mass...i've actually bumped into walls misjudging my shoulders walking through a door!

 

[5x10]

i see alot of 500mgs

i think 250 is plenty for a first timer

also seeing alot of deca is bad
ive always thought its a mild roid

 

[yankees5677]

hell i did 200mgs of test a week HRT and a shot of 1000iu's HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - every couple of weeks and i put almost 20 pounds in 15 weeks. but the diet has to be there. alot of the "right" calories. ALOT of protein. it took me years before i understood how to diet. then after 3 years of learning that went to the doc and got the scripts for the HRT and bought the PCT - post cycle therapy - gear for when i finished. these docs want you to stay on it all year. im too young for that and my natural t levels werent that low. now i cant wait to do my first "real" cycle.
all in all 250mgs once a week should be more than enough if youre eating right to gain muscle and slim the belly down to a 30 inch.

 

[nolimitxxx]

1.5 grams will jack you up real nice

 

[needsize]

personally I would suggest 400mg as a minimal amount....you never gain like your first cycle, and if you short yourself on the dose, you will walk away with less. I went with 500mg test, and 30mg dbol(for the first 4 weeks) and kept 22lbs...with a physique that was already pretty advanced

 

[xrsist]

It's weird reading things and more or less knowing the answers now. Docs typically prescribe around 100mg/week of test for HRT - or so my doc told me. I would say 250mg is plenty, especially for a firs ttime cycle. 350mg will give anyone everything they could ask for for their first cycle and more if they train and eat right. I've known too many guys with good habits take that approach and gain far more than guys with a worse work ethic taking mroe drugs. You just don't need a lot.

agreed ^. and to Heavy Duty its tuesday here