We need to leave Israel alone!

[MoneyBags]

if we supported bin laden in the past and now we want to kill him who cares? it suited us back then to help him and now it suits us to kill him. we do whats best for us. im sure the day will come when we are killing off the northern alliance. thats perfectly fine with me. we do what we need to do at the time we need to do it.

now maybe if the palestinians werent constantly committing acts of terrorism maybe they would be treated better. they deserve the treatment they get. they were hoping that back when israel created that the other arab countries would come in and kill all the jews there. well they failed and now they have to live with it. or die, i dont give a shit.

 

[Wfabrizio]

first, wfabriozo is definitely an anti-semite. how could he say that israel's war on terrorism has increased terrorism? if israel sat back and did nothing you really think there would be less terrorism? you dont hear of plane hijackings there. every arab would love to see every israeli die and so i think its obvious they are doing good in minimizing terrorism.

Hahahaha.....this is hilarious.....next you'll be telling me that I'm anti-semitic because I don't like kosher food. So then you really have convinced yourself that there is no correaltion between Israel's military retaliations and increased Palestinian terrorism?

second, america has hurt the peace process more than anyone else. they just need to back off and let israel deal with it. there will never be peace if this peace process is forced to continue.

I completely agree. The US policy of supporting everything the Israeli's do has caused us some serious problems. The US should be a neutral party. How can you have a biased peace negotiator?

 

[Wfabrizio]

Oh, and for whoever left me the bad karma......that is so chicken shit. I've got a great idea! Why doesn't everyone who disagrees with each others entitled opinions, just send bad karma back and forth so that we can have a replica model of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict!

Now, that would be special! Constant retaliation! Gee, and people wonder why this frame of logic doesn't work for the Middle East.

 

[danielson]

Oh, and for whoever left me the bad karma......that is so chicken shit. I've got a great idea! Why doesn't everyone who disagrees with each others entitled opinions, just send bad karma back and forth so that we can have a replica model of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict!

Now, that would be special! Constant retaliation! Gee, and people wonder why this frame of logic doesn't work for the Middle East.

dont sweat it, i get bad karma for wishing bi-sexuals happy birthday and if someone simply disagrees with me. as long as its in the green its ok.

 

[BigPhysicsBastard]

babydoc.....if we stop backing EVERYTHING that Israel does, the arabs will "more than likely" forget about us.....what other problem do they have with us besides our support of Israel?? We're on the other side of the globe. Now if we pull out our support for Israel and some monkey asses still feel the need to be fucksticks and do shit to us........well, than it's like I stated before........Mecca goes down in a great big fucking ball of fire.
I just think it's time for Israel to be on it's own. If they want to keep expanding their territory, eventually they are going to have to deal with the consequences. People don't like being assfucked off their own land.......eventually something is going to give, and when it does I pray that the U.S is far far away.

 

[Weapon X]

babydoc.....if we stop backing EVERYTHING that Israel does, the arabs will "more than likely" forget about us.....what other problem do they have with us besides our support of Israel??

Our very way of life. Our Western culture. We are Infidels. Remember that Islam consides the U.S. to be the 'Great Satan.' Do you think they call us that simply for supporting Israel??

Now if we pull out our support for Israel and some monkey asses still feel the need to be fucksticks and do shit to us........

"MOnkey Asses"? And I'm the one who gets called a racist!

If they want to keep expanding their territory, eventually they are going to have to deal with the consequences.

Uh... Israel is actually smaller than it was 30 years ago, man.

People don't like being assfucked off their own land

There never was a PAlestinian nation or culture: "It has never been the name of a nation or state. It is a geographical term, used to designate the region at those times in history when there is no nation or state there.

The word itself derives from "Peleshet", a name that appears frequently in the Bible and has come into English as "Philistine". The name began to be used in the Thirteenth Century BCE, for a wave of migrant "Sea Peoples" who came from the area of the Aegean Sea and the Greek Islands and settled on the southern coast of the land of Canaan. There they established five independent city-states (including Gaza) on a narrow strip of land known as Philistia. The Greeks and Romans called it "Palastina".

The Philistines were not Arabs, they were not Semites. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palastina" derived from the Peleshet.

http://www.tzemach.org/fyi/docs/nopal.htm

"A well-researched book, "From Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters (1) carefully tracked the inflow of Arabs into Palestine from Syria, Transjordan, Egypt, Arabia, Persia (now Iran), et al. Shifting Fellaheen population into the area was primarily based on available employment. Before oil became a major industry, most Arabs lived at a poverty level. If job opportunities appeared, word spread and whole tribes, families and individuals migrated.

When the Jews started to return to and build up the Land of Israel, tradesmen and labor were needed. Arabs from surrounding countries came in droves, glad to find profitable work. The British in control under the mandate watched the inflow of Arab peasants with benign disinterest, not even bothering to record their entry. The British did, however, count the Jews entering. In order to block their escape from the Holocaust in Europe, they maintained their quotas of only 5000 Jews per year."

http://www.freeman.org/m_online/aug98/winston1.htm

http://www.alibris.com/search/detai...al&S=R&bid=8030341163&page=1&matches=1&qsort=

 

[BigPhysicsBastard]

weapon X, I didn't read more than a couple sentences into that jewish propaganda, because I knew where it was going and I've heard it before. The facts are that there was a substantial amount of people that were wrongfully evicted from their land. I don't care how the other Arab nations treated them, I don't care that maybe they weren't an "official" country.........they still got assfucked off their land. Now don't get me wrong, I also find it ironic that these muslim nations take up the cause of the palestinians so quickly yet they treated them like shit. That's not lost on me. I know full well that the underlying cause of all this bullshit is religion. The muslims do not like a powerful "non-muslim" state living amongst them. And yes you are correct about the way they view the west. But that view started because of our meddling in their affairs. Now the whole region is polarized against us. But I just don't see them continuing to attack us if we leave them alone. Because right now they feel as if they HAVE to attack us, and the inevitable consequences are worth it. Remember, the U.S cannot go "too far" in it's response to terrorism because we risk alienating the rest of the world. If we stop messing around in middle eastern affairs and we STILL get attacked, than we really do have a green light to fuck people up........and I'm not talking about strategic bombing, I'm talking full scale annihilation. The rest of the world will not be able to say anything to us either.

 

[Wfabrizio]

Honestly, I'm really sick and tired of hearing how both sides are "right" in their actions to one another. Whatever. All that I care about is keeping the fucked up middle east situation away from the United States.

Unfortunately, Israel doesn't even support recent US foreign policy in the region because it conflicts with their aims. Israel should kiss our ass or at least give us a reach-around for all the years of support we have given them. Instead, they are intensifying their efforts against the Palestinians. This will merely increase palestinian and arab aggression against the US.

In my opinion, the Israeli government is just as foul as their palestinian opposition.

 

[BigPhysicsBastard]

amen

 

[Stumpy (The Fucking dumbass Piece of Shit!)]

Honestly, I'm really sick and tired of hearing how both sides are "right" in their actions to one another. Whatever. All that I care about is keeping the fucked up middle east situation away from the United States.

Ignoring what's going on there is not going to make the problem go away. We need to engage other strong parties (EU, Russia, China) in the peace settlement, so that it will be accepted by both sides. And yes, it is OUR responsibility, since we're the world hegemon.

Unfortunately, Israel doesn't even support recent US foreign policy in the region because it conflicts with their aims. Israel should kiss our ass or at least give us a reach-around for all the years of support we have given them. Instead, they are intensifying their efforts against the Palestinians. This will merely increase palestinian and arab aggression against the US.

Israel is not a US colony, although many would like to believe so. They do have their own independent foreign policy, you know.

In my opinion, the Israeli government is just as foul as their palestinian opposition.

The current government is right-wing, the previous government was really center-left. You're saying that even when the Israeli government was a leftist, Socialist entity, they were still foul in your eyes? Btw, the Palestinian opposition is composed of various factions, too, from the Marxist-Leninist Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, to the Islamic Jihad and Hamas.