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We need to leave Israel alone!

Poppa- I agree, politics are corrupt as hell. As soon as someone says politically correct, they're not. I think as soon as you declare a party, you should be boxed out of politics. Swearing loyalty to a party is right behind being religious and neither one should be trusted in politics or the integrity of the decision can't be trusted.
 
first, wfabriozo is definitely an anti-semite. how could he say that israel's war on terrorism has increased terrorism? if israel sat back and did nothing you really think there would be less terrorism? you dont hear of plane hijackings there. every arab would love to see every israeli die and so i think its obvious they are doing good in minimizing terrorism.

second, america has hurt the peace process more than anyone else. they just need to back off and let israel deal with it. there will never be peace if this peace process is forced to continue.
 
What the hell?

thebabydoc made a good point. The Israeli - Palestinian conflict stems from territorial disputes. They both claim the land is theirs, specifically Jerusalem. They got close to a resolution in the peace talks, but once Jerusalem came up neither nation would budge an inch. You could evenly split that whole area and neither of them would agree to it...it's an "all or nothing" fight.

The Palestinians pull some shit and get their asses kicked by Israel, then they do it again. As it was said, they've accomplished nothing but killing Israelis and then watching their actions come back to bite them in the asses while their countrymen die...all because they think they deserve what Israel has (land). Palestine brings their suffering upon itself.

Then they blame & hate the US for supporting the only democratic nation in that region. They celebrate the attacks on our country.

Wake up people...wake up.
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
weapon x.....I can't stand Israel, I mean, I despise that nation. Does that make me an anti-semite??? Maybe......but I'm also anti-muslim. Frankly, I'm disgusted by any country/organization that bases it's policies on it's beleif of it's own religious superiority. I whole heartedly beleive that the muslims and the Israeli's were made for each other, neither will ever budge an inch because of their own religious hubris..........I hope they exterminate each other. Normally I would just sit back with a smile and watch two such monkey-like people kill each other off......Only one problem, Israel has made it's number one priority enmeshing the U.S in this conflict. Therefore if Israel goes down, they're damn sure going to drag us down with them. I don't agree with Bush trying to tell Israel what to do. Let them do what they want, but leave them the hell alone. Don't give them anymore aid, no more weapons........NOTHING!!!! But make it absolutely clear to the Arabs that we're pulling out of this mess, and any further attacks against us will result in Mecca becoming a pile of rubble fit for dog shit and nothing more........I'm dead serious on that too. We have to be fair, but at the same time we have to make it clear that SERIOUS fucking consequences are going to ensue if this shit keeps up, and those consequences are going to involve weapons of mass destruction.

I agree with parts of this, but disagree with the comment that Israel will drag us down. We may allow ourselves to be dragged down, but the onus is on us, not them to stop it. Like you said, cut them loose.....and we get completely out. Did anybody here see my poll on whether we should be there anymore? Check it, and offer your opinions, please.

Wfab, you're right about W X......he is very defensive for someone who does make very racist comments......
 
i dont see how anyone can think israel is wrong. what do you expect them to do? we got attacked once and we are all going nuts wanting to nuke everybody and scared of more attacks. israel has been under this constant threat of terrorism ever since it was first created. if we were israel would we be so lenient with the palestinians? what should israel do?
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
Israel has made it's number one priority enmeshing the U.S in this conflict. Therefore if Israel goes down, they're damn sure going to drag us down with them. I don't agree with Bush trying to tell Israel what to do. Let them do what they want, but leave them the hell alone. Don't give them anymore aid, no more weapons........NOTHING!!!! But make it absolutely clear to the Arabs that we're pulling out of this mess, and any further attacks against us will result in Mecca becoming a pile of rubble fit for dog shit and nothing more........I'm dead serious on that too. We have to be fair, but at the same time we have to make it clear that SERIOUS fucking consequences are going to ensue if this shit keeps up, and those consequences are going to involve weapons of mass destruction.
Are you out of your mind!!!?

What makes you think that if we "leave them [the Israeli's] the hell alone" that the arabs will forget about us when all evidence points to the contrary. Israel has NO INTEREST in the U.S. or "dragging us down". Those "SERIOUS fucking consequences" ARE ENSUING now. The Taliban/ whoever you want to call them WANT US THERE. They wanted the Russians there. They believe they can take down the world superpowers one at a time by forcing them onto their "home turf". In the end, it's looking more and more that some of Weapon X's beliefs (vis-a-vis the messiah and his coming) could come to be, with Israel the sole survivor.

Because we lack the conviction and strength to do what needs to be done, it will eventually be left to the Israeli's. I can guarantee you that should it come to it, they will act where we did/could not. Believe this: they ARE the greatest ally the U.S. has.
It is they who are looking out for our interests, not the other way around. You need to take off those colored spectacles you've been wearing for too long.
 
I spent 3 years working in Israel and let me tell you they are the most racist bunch of fuckers you'll ever see being a coloured person and coming for South Africa the shit that we injured is nothing close to what the Palestine’s go through daily.

In the old South Africa Mandela was a terrorist, but America supported him he killed plenty of people with bombs in wimpy’s who does that target KIDS so why is it right for our Noble peace prizewinner to do it but not the Palestine’s. The Palestine’s are in the same position the blacks in SA were in, their basic human rights are violated daily they can't use main roads into town they go through check points were they are humiliated and beaten all the time they have been treated like shit every single day for the last 34 years you can't blame them for attacking Israel and all they see is America helping Israel to fuck them if America is so concerned about the HUMAN RIGHTS why didn't they side with no one and help sort the problem out.

The American Administration is the most Hypocritical bunch

Bin Laden was supported by America when it suited them now he’s a terrorist same thing with Sudam, America have made some serious fuck ups when it comes to war when will your Administration learn. Its time America stayed out of everyone else's business.

Can you imagine if these terrorists get their hands on the Ebola (spelling) virus cities in America will be wiped out and its not impossible to get SA have this virus and we are very friendly with Arafat and Bin Laden you do the math.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
Whites think Mandela was a terrorist many black people and I see him as a hero.


I'm not condoning the attacks in any way. But this is not the right way to go about dealing with Terrorists that are not caught or killed will go deeper under ground and wait for there chance to attack and those attacks will get worse and America will be there number one target I know this because I fought for the ANC and we were trained by these guys (how to plant bombs and plan attacks) these people are ruthless



If you are oppressed at what point do you start fighting back when your daughter is killed or raped purely because she’s a Palestine. How much can anyone of us take? The SA police murdered my mother and farther during a raid, did I fight back? Yes did I kill? Yes Would I do it again? Yes in a heartbeat

The majority of us would do the same thing or am I wrong?
 
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