UG versus human grade

[Nelson Montana]

The market doesn't quite understand what the quality of UG really is, and I confess it wasn't until recently that it sunk in for me too. My magazine Body of Science has been testing UG gear for a while, but we tested for dosing accuracy only, for the most part.

Recently we ran 14 UG products through the lab, but this time looked for heavy metals, impure steroid materials, and if food grade oil was used. The lot was a fucking mess - over 20% failed for metals, over 50% failed for impure steroids materials (other intermediaries present), and a a few had flavoring agents so they used food grade oil. That is aside from all the dosing problems.

Long story short, I strongly suggest people stay away from underground gear. Are there good products out there? Yes, but the odds are long you will be buying them.

Good stuff. This is the kind of info I'd like to see from a source check -- not if they'll just send something or not.

 

[terrapin]

The market doesn't quite understand what the quality of UG really is, and I confess it wasn't until recently that it sunk in for me too. My magazine Body of Science has been testing UG gear for a while, but we tested for dosing accuracy only, for the most part.

Recently we ran 14 UG products through the lab, but this time looked for heavy metals, impure steroid materials, and if food grade oil was used. The lot was a fucking mess - over 20% failed for metals, over 50% failed for impure steroids materials (other intermediaries present), and a a few had flavoring agents so they used food grade oil. That is aside from all the dosing problems.

Long story short, I strongly suggest people stay away from underground gear. Are there good products out there? Yes, but the odds are long you will be buying them.

This is exactly what I am talking about. If you now and trust your source, then HG is the way to go. Absolutely no guess work.

 

[needsize]

UG's are a mix and match bag of potluck.

I don't know if that makes any sense, but some UG's probably don't know fully what they are doing. Some UG's probably do know what they are doing and either dose closely to correct or underdose. There are some UG's out there that will probably take pride in what they do and in order to get repeat business they will overdose a little bit to compensate for any loss in product throughout the process while maintaining the cleanest processing that they can.

None of that makes a UG good, but beggars can't always be choosers and finding a UG is like a crap toss.

some good points

what I have seen over the years with all the UG labs is that some are legit, they invest heavy cash into the proper lab equipment(ie creating a proper clean room), and will actually pay a chemist who know what they are doing. Spectro was the first one and thats the route they took, the original investment was over $60,000 to get everything set up properly, and that stuff was gold, clean and properly dosed. They ended up dropping the name and producing under a different one, but it was a great example of quality. There are a few other ones out there that went the same route, they invested money and have each batch of raws tested before they make any product. But there are some that are truly basement operations, anyone can buy the raws and make it themselves, and thats what a lot of UGs are, you can usually tell by price and a few other tell tale signs.
If you are in a position to know which ones are which, then UG is great, if you dont, then it definitely is a crap shoot

 

[galaxy]

Theres maybe two UG's I would trust. Otherwise its roullette

 

[needsize]

Theres maybe two UG's I would trust. Otherwise its roullette

lol, thats exactly how many there are that I trust