UG versus human grade

[needtogetaas]

I use almost all ug now. If you got a good one you been working with for years and trust. Well fuck it its 10 times cheaper and you know your shit is good.

Just as much a chance getting fake hg as there is getting low dose or not so good ug. Its all about the people you are working with.

I was loving the human grade for a wile. Its good shit but to damn expensive and I like the guys a deal with.

 

[nzrodney]

You have to be a real fucking idiot to make an oil based product that will give somebody an infection. Oil is pretty hard to fuck up. Water based on the other hand... I would NEVER touch a water based UG product.

At best maybe drink it if its winny.

Yes agree , rarely is the gear fucked up. Its normally bad injection proceedure that causes infection. Fortunately, the water is very good where I live

 

[terrapin]

I guess my needs have always been simple: test, deca, primo for injectibles
var, winny, tbol, dbol for orals. So, I have always gone with HG for injectibles and I always will. I agree the price is higher- but test isn't that expensive anyway. Orals are a different story.

 

[justinbarth]

I guess my needs have always been simple: test, deca, primo for injectibles
var, winny, tbol, dbol for orals. So, I have always gone with HG for injectibles and I always will. I agree the price is higher- but test isn't that expensive anyway. Orals are a different story.

if ordered in 'bulk' i can get hg test way cheaper then ugl....

 

[nickster#1]

I'm recovering form an injury right now so this is for the not so near future. I have ran many cycles, but have always went with UG labs. Have recently decided to start goin with human grade anytime [possible. What difference do you see in dosing? I've always heard most all UG is honestly underdosed. So for example anyone one noticed a major change in test dosing when switching?

It depends on how well you know your source...???? Some UGs are in fact under dosed, while others are the opposite. Human grade is best when it comes to test. Im a poet and didnt know it. hehe
Know your source.

 

[sshadoww]

nothing can beat human grade-period.

+1

 

[bbkingpin]

i doubt you'll find human grade eq

Isn't that what I said? I listed it along with tren, etc.

 

[needsize]

Been juicing for 7 years now, every cycle but one has been UG, and the only difference I have found was that the UG was cheaper...and since I buy direct from the lab, less chance of fakes....I have see fake HG stuff with laser etching on the amps...so I am very leary of human stuff as its getting too hard to know whats real and whats not

 

[Donnie Darko]

UG's are a mix and match bag of potluck.

I don't know if that makes any sense, but some UG's probably don't know fully what they are doing. Some UG's probably do know what they are doing and either dose closely to correct or underdose. There are some UG's out there that will probably take pride in what they do and in order to get repeat business they will overdose a little bit to compensate for any loss in product throughout the process while maintaining the cleanest processing that they can.

None of that makes a UG good, but beggars can't always be choosers and finding a UG is like a crap toss.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

UG's are a mix and match bag of potluck.

I don't know if that makes any sense, but some UG's probably don't know fully what they are doing. Some UG's probably do know what they are doing and either dose closely to correct or underdose. There are some UG's out there that will probably take pride in what they do and in order to get repeat business they will overdose a little bit to compensate for any loss in product throughout the process while maintaining the cleanest processing that they can.

None of that makes a UG good, but beggars can't always be choosers and finding a UG is like a crap toss.

The market doesn't quite understand what the quality of UG really is, and I confess it wasn't until recently that it sunk in for me too. My magazine Body of Science has been testing UG gear for a while, but we tested for dosing accuracy only, for the most part.

Recently we ran 14 UG products through the lab, but this time looked for heavy metals, impure steroid materials, and if food grade oil was used. The lot was a fucking mess - over 20% failed for metals, over 50% failed for impure steroids materials (other intermediaries present), and a a few had flavoring agents so they used food grade oil. That is aside from all the dosing problems.

Long story short, I strongly suggest people stay away from underground gear. Are there good products out there? Yes, but the odds are long you will be buying them.