There's still some hope left for this country

[hanselthecaretaker]

This decision was a sound one. Thank God the judge decided to defend the constitution rather than bow down to hysterical right wing nuts who would see the 1st amendment shredded to bits. It really shouldn't have been a tough decision for the judge there is tons of precedence and very little difference in these facts from those brought time and time before.

Actually the guy who first proposed a ban on violent videogames over a decade ago was (D) Lieberman. Although some today consider him to be more of a neo-con.

 

[Phenom78]

Actually the guy who first proposed a ban on violent videogames over a decade ago was (D) Lieberman. Although some today consider him to be more of a neo-con.

LOL

Don't forget those other right wing nuts like Tipper Gore and Hillary

 

[Phenom78]

Well if you really want to get down to it, this shouldn't have ever been an issue. However, since it is, and regardless of who's pulling the strings from either side, of course I'm glad the ban was dropped. And yes now they can (hopefully) focus on more pressing matters.

No need to try and complicate things here bro.

I don't care about video games per se.

The principle you introduced in this thread is of citizen rights.

Yet to achieve a relatively inconsequential result you have abandoned the far more substantive right of true representative government.

Right or wrong the legislatures are accountable to the electorate. Federal judges are not. To surrender final say over every consequential decision to the judiciary is no different than living under an oligachy, with representative government as some kind of window dressing.

If nine brilliant and well intentioned men were to come forward and assert that from now on every major decision in this country would be concluded by them instead of Congress we'd ridicule the very notion.

Yet we concede that same authority to 9 rather less than stellar individuals without comment.

They aren't doctors, scientists, military experts, intelligence , engineers, economists etc etc etc. They're scumbag lawyers. Ambulance chasers who weren't bright enough to get into medical skill. Their only training is in the law. And when they reach the highest levels of the judiciary, they demonstrate that any legal training they receive is almost superflous since they neither demonstrate or so much as show an inclination to follow the law or the Constitution. They rule as they wish, and then concoct some specious "argument" to support their preconceived desires.

 

[Phenom78]

You might as well put accountants in charge of NASA for all the relevance legal precepts has to the judicial rulings.

 

[heatherrae]

Tippor Gore is an idiot. I can't stand that dumbass.

 

[Phenom78]

Here is an additional irony.

The first amendment was written primarily, if not entirely, to guarantee freedom of political speech. That's it.

I have no problem per se with broader interpretations of that right, but it is truly sad that the same courts which effectively outlawed effective political speech before elections, finds free speech issues in video game violence.

And all the peeps are more concerned with the latter than the former.

Yeah. Lots of hope there.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Here is an additional irony.

The first amendment was written primarily, if not entirely, to guarantee freedom of political speech. That's it.

I have no problem per se with broader interpretations of that right, but it is truly sad that the same courts which effectively outlawed effective political speech before elections, finds free speech issues in video game violence.

And all the peeps are more concerned with the latter than the former.

Yeah. Lots of hope there.

I'm curious; what would you consider effective political speech?

In any case though, it still holds no candle to action...unless that is in itself what effective political speech ultimately leads to.

 

[manny78]

Wtf is wrong in Cali ? What are all these hippie laws out there ?

 

[Phenom78]

I'm curious; what would you consider effective political speech?

In any case though, it still holds no candle to action.

Today you can't reach large numbers of people except through media and mass mailings, which are now against the law up to months before an election.

The first amendment wasn't enacted so you could watch porn or play violent video games. Those "rights" were inferred recently by judges. I don't care.

It's a sad world though when we have trashed the original intention and replaced it with video and porn to the happy applause of the governed.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Today you can't reach large numbers of people except through media and mass mailings, which are now against the law up to months before an election.

The first amendment wasn't enacted so you could watch porn or play violent video games. Those "rights" were inferred recently by judges. I don't care.

It's a sad world though when we have trashed the original intention and replaced it with video and porn to the happy applause of the governed.

I understand what you mean. Kinda like a circus here.