*The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruising*

[Anthony Roberts]

LOL

Not a contest BUT....

I have been preaching Pre-PCT and Active Recovery before ANYONE. I actually invented those TERMS. Nowhere else can you find mention of these TERMS or even concepts.

Before I came along, the DOGMA was "ALL STEROIDS SHUTDOWN THE HPTA!", which is of course, not true.

Anthony, do you have any written material on Pre-PCT or Active Recovery?

Yes. A long time ago. I wrote an article called "Pre-PCT":

http://www.anthony-roberts.com/pre_pct.html

Check my website, on the left hand side:

www.anthony-roberts.com[/url I never heard the term before I wrote an article on it.

 

[Ross]

Yes. A long time ago. I wrote an article called "Pre-PCT":

http://www.anthony-roberts.com/pre_pct.html

Check my website, on the left hand side:

www.anthony-roberts.com[/url I nev...OVERY) ** Weeks 16-26: **POST CYCLE THERAPY**

 

[boston789]

The only thing that concerns me with using primo as the active recovery would be that active recovery is 4 weeks long, right? Primo is an enanthate and would take almost 3-4 weeks to kick in, correct?

 

[Anthony Roberts]

The only thing that concerns me with using primo as the active recovery would be that active recovery is 4 weeks long, right? Primo is an enanthate and would take almost 3-4 weeks to kick in, correct?

It's unlikely that you would recover using primo. I suppose small amounts of orals could be used, and you would get to low/normal test levels with that, but never to your original levels.

The body secretes hormones in a pulsatile fashion and the slow release from injectables makes it nearly impossible to ever recover while on them.

 

[Ross]

The only thing that concerns me with using primo as the active recovery would be that active recovery is 4 weeks long, right? Primo is an enanthate and would take almost 3-4 weeks to kick in, correct?

If I plan on using Primobolan in my Pre-PCT, I will also use it as my FINISHER, so that it is already active by the time I begin Pre-PCT.

Using Cabergoline during this time will also desensitize the HPTA, making your Pre-PCT more effective.

You can BEGIN recovering on Primobolan, Equipoise, Masteron, Turinabol, Dianabol...lots. I have seen my own bloodowork to confirm.

 

[njmuscleguy]

As far as esters go, is there a difference between ORAL SUSPENSION of methenelone acetate (Primo) and the injectable form of methenelone acetate? I would guess not if they're both acetate?

If there is no difference, what's the benefit of taking one over the other? I guess the same would go for something like winny (I've never taken winny or primo, so I don't know much about them).

I believe Ross recommends 200mg of injectable primo and 50mg of oral for active recovery?

 

[Anthony Roberts]

As far as esters go, is there a difference between ORAL SUSPENSION of methenelone acetate (Primo) and the injectable form of methenelone acetate? I would guess not if they're both acetate?

If there is no difference, what's the benefit of taking one over the other? I guess the same would go for something like winny (I've never taken winny or primo, so I don't know much about them).

I believe Ross recommends 200mg of injectable primo and 50mg of oral for active recovery?

No difference, chemically. But when you take the oral version you get roughly 100x less of an anabolic effect (yes there's a study on this), on LABC weight. You can find the actual chart in my first book, which compares Tren A as an injection vs/ oral, in the Megrasavit-Mono profile. The acetate ester isn't great for oral use.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Ok, then Ross needs to explain why he recommends 200mg of injectable primo and only 50mg of oral. I think I saw that in a different thread (unless I misread it)

 

[Ross]

Ok, then Ross needs to explain why he recommends 200mg of injectable primo and only 50mg of oral. I think I saw that in a different thread (unless I misread it)

The MINIMUM dosage I suggest for ORAL Primo is 100mgs ED.

 

[jmead]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

wow bro i guess you did not read what a said....just sawthe derma thing at the end and skipped right over the rest....just use clomid at the end then but 75% of what i said ant even about derma its about hcg on or off cycle....

the info was great, i was trying to question ross' use of hcg only post cycle, and why he would not use it during cycle with all of the knowledge around sayings its beneficial, like in your informative post..