The Importance Of Steroids

[Pat_McCrotch]

Yeah. You "proved" I was a fraud because you got rebutted in every half-truth you told. I love how you know how it is in prison, though you've never been there, and then you attack me for being there.

Do you know why everyone knows I was in? Because when I was busted I contacted every source I ever dealt with and told them to not respond to e-mails from me, or contact me or respond to me any more because I was busted and it could be a trap (I was caught buying E from a Steroid Source).

You don't know shit about shit, and you never will. As for your COTB membership, remember, I (at first) was the one who said when the idea of banning your ass came up that you should be allowed to stay. That's a fact, and a conversation I had just yesterday. Why? Because you're unimportant, and you represent the old empire here, which is just being phased out...unfortunately, most of you guys will likely choose to attack me, or the site while it happens. It's ok....we figured it would happen...

Oh wait...you're so in the know I bet you knew that already.

Remember...after you played with me on the NRU all stars, I went to NZ and played in the first division. That's the difference between us...always was, always will be.

Did you ger rebutted again? Did you lose your butt the first time COb Man. i am no wordyologists but i thought it was rebuttled? Maybe my spelling is wrong

 

[CO B-man]

so am i a geek too cause i pay to post on boards in my spare time? Not a very good mod or customer service rep. I dunno. i know I dont wanna be in a place where an expert/mod calls people names that are just trying to learn and ask questions.

Thats just the thing he is NOT a mod either. He is a has been and has been removed from past boards. now he is just an advertiser.

 

[CO B-man]

Did you ger rebutted again? Did you lose your butt the first time COb Man. i am no wordyologists but i thought it was rebuttled? Maybe my spelling is wrong

I was never good with words after all I am not an author!

 

[needtogetaas]

LOL....Has he ever?(apart from his standard copy and pastes) Mr. Connors is getting his a** handed to him left and right and it's only picking up steam. He's the only "expert" I know that is treated this way. HMMMMM wonder why.....must be because everyone is just so jealous of his "elite/top tier status" in this business.....yeah that's it right Hooker?

what I have noticed in the last month is a huge increase in 2007 new posters with 5 post popping up in threads and the only thing they ever say is bashing ar or other sponsors of the board.I get the feeling there is some one or some one's being all the same people behind this....they pop up make a few bashing post at new products or new sponsors then there gone....hmmmmmm

all arguing aside people I know for a fact others see this.and I think from now on
if your a new 2007 poster and you jump on this board and start acting like you know every thing and you have bin on this board for years yet the only thing you do is bash people all day then I am going to fucking red your ass to -4000 k
and you will be band.

 

[VooDooChild]

I was never good with words after all I am not an author!

And if you havent published 3 books, you dont know what your talking about..lol!

roberts says he was just picked up by barnes and noble. Well I did some researching, and when you look at the site how to become an author, this is what it states..

Each year, we review more than 100,000 submissions from publishers of every size and background. Our buyers review publishers’ catalogues, marketing materials and galleys or sample copies to help them make their decisions. Most of these books are added to our book database and a small order is placed for our warehouse. This makes a title available for sale on our Web site and for order through our stores.

When you look on their site they have hundreds of these books awaiting to be purchased/considered by Barnes & Nobles for sale, including roberts book.

The Small Press Department
Barnes & Noble
122 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10011

 

[boyer]

I'm not a vocal man by any means on boards - I perfer to read more than anything.

But I'll say this: on all the boards I read regularly where Roberts is a factor, I am consistently disgusted by his unprofessional behaviour and constant self-promotion of his products.

Now, I sympathize with the need to promote one's self and his products - that is business after all; however, I often feel that Roberts gives himself a little bit too much credit at times. I won't dispute the fact that he is knowledgeable on many aspects of steroid use, but insofar as to be an expert on the subject? I am not so unpurturbed of that. I'm not certain where his reputation as a "guru" comes from, though the popular consensus I have ascertained is that he is a self-styled one. In my opinion it takes more than one e-book that is basically a conglomeration of reiterated information stated by a myriad others in the past, in order to be considered a certifiable expert in a field.

Simply taking practical data posted all over the internet and data already provided by the greats like Duchaine, does not make one a certified expert. Beyond steroids purports to educate us on hormones never discussed about ever - including human growth hormone (HGH), Insulin-like Growth Factor 1 (IGF-1), Humulin-R Insulin among others. Since when did the above items ever posess a veritable lack of documentation and anecdotal evidence? Granted the other things discussed in his book like MGF are fairly new to the bodybuilding table, very little information is said in the 300 pages that hasn't really been declared previously.

Having an e-book of information previously said doesn't give much credence as to the fact Roberts is a "guru" or "expert". In actuality it can be likened to plagiarism.

In order for work to be considered one's own, one has to expand on ideas already formed and present insightful and ratiocinative theories on how to go beyond what is already known. In my opinion, Beyond Steroids doesn't achieve that and in essence fails to even approach that frontier. And being Robert's only published (I use that term loosely) source of his work (again, I use this term loosely) reveals how ignoble of a "guru" he truly is.

CO-B man, kudos for being one to say what is on the mind of myself and many others.

Roberts, I have nothing more to say about you. In my opinion, your just some kid that found a hobby in jail and decided to make a profit off of it.

Resorting to veiled threats of banning and using your "superior" influence on the boards is just a low blow that cries desperation. The boards were made for a free-flow of infromation and provocative thought. Stifling others when they disagree with you is a tyrannical form of resistance.

And if you truly and sincerely consider yourself a respectible, credible, mature and professional expert in the field of Anabolic Steroids you would not have the need to argue excessively and defend yourself against CO-B man or the multitudinous other detractors of yours out there.

You would let your actions and your work speak for yourself. Perhaps, however, in your case, your actions alone aren't enough to save you from the menacing abyss that threatens to engulf you.

pwned! Now I have to get my thesaurus out too!

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I was never good with words after all I am not an author!

I wasnt making fun of you. i was quoteing AR. he is the dumbass trying tobe something even as a noob I can see he is a dumbass mother fucker

 

[CO B-man]

I wasnt making fun of you. i was quoteing AR. he is the dumbass trying tobe something even as a noob I can see he is a dumbass mother fucker

I understood you

 

[VooDooChild]

Hitler - Mein Kampf

OJ Simpson - I want to tell you (i actually have a copy)

anthony roberts - beyond steroids

Just goes to show you, anyone can be a writer..

 

[blackthunder]

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Well, at least he gives credit to the people he cuts and pastes from