the greatest armies in the world

[Spartacus]

I heard that quote from Stalin came when FDR or Churchill asked Stalin about the intelligence relating to the Soviet Army raping its way through Eastern Europe and Germany. I'm not sure though....

read Antony Beever's "Fall of Berlin"

horrifying
one of the reasons the Germans fought so tenaciously and ferious in Berlin was they could hear the screams from the gang rapes across the street etc.

 

[javaguru]

read Antony Beever's "Fall of Berlin"

horrifying
one of the reasons the Germans fought so tenaciously and ferious in Berlin was they could hear the screams from the gang rapes across the street etc.

After the fact, the NKVD went by their SOP in the occupied territories after the war was over. Countless German and Eastern Europeans died at the hands of Stalin just like they carried out their occupation of their Polish territories in 1940.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

 

[heatherrae]

As a matter of fact, yes I would have, because most people regardless of gender seem to react the same way to such a sensitive subject. I know I probably would have years ago too when I didn't know or care to know more than any other average joe on the subject.

My aren't you an elitist to assume yourself so much better educated than me.

 

[Spartacus]

Damn close only counts in horse shoes. He fucked everything up worse for them. Plus, he butchered millions of people in horrific ways. I can't believe people are arguing his merits.

Shall we discuss that Charles Manson planted some pretty nice veggie gardens, too?

I'm not glorifying Hitler
I'm sort of defending some aspects of him and his goals
and attempting to offer a more non-biased,non-passionate assessment of his existence

the world is full of Hitlers big and small
and it's sort of useful to understand the mindset

 

[Spartacus]

While that may be true, I think that it hardly debatable that Germany was far worse off after Hitler than before and that the holocaust did, in fact, occur.

If I were a man making the same arguments would you be so quick to dismiss my opinions on the matter as "emotional." I doubt it.

reunified Germany's doing pretty damn good these days
especially when compared against the victors the USSR

hell they're back on top of the medals chart for the winter olympics

seig heil!

 

[Spartacus]

Germany needs to reunify with France
yesterday

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

My aren't you an elitist to assume yourself so much better educated than me.

On certain subjects, sure. But you'd blow me out of the water I suppose if I took any to court.

 

[heatherrae]

reunified Germany's doing pretty damn good these days
especially when compared against the victors the USSR

hell they're back on top of the medals chart for the winter olympics

seig heil!

lol...hardly attributable to Hitler.


However, continue on with the dispassionate analysis. I just think it is funny when people try to make a stretch in the opposite direction just in order shun popular opinion for the sake a dispassionate member of the intelligensia.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

lol...hardly attributable to Hitler.


However, continue on with the dispassionate analysis. I just think it is funny when people try to make a stretch in the opposite direction just in order shun popular opinion for the sake a dispassionate member of the intelligensia.

Popular opinion could hardly be called intelligent.

 

[heatherrae]

Popular opinion could hardly be called intelligent.

Really? You don't think popular opinion is ever correct?