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The end (war thread)

alien amp pharm said:
I've been saying this for a while now.

There will come a day when a major attack on US soil will cause it to collapse. People panic very easily and that is all it will take for chaos to ensue.

US currency will be worthless. Instead people will be fighting and killing over food and other necessities.

I have been slowly preparing for such an event. Have you? or are you one of those who don't think it will ever happen because your governement has all the answers?
I don't know if it will collapse us though. My best guess is an Iranian or NK nuke (possibly an old ruskie one too) being snuck-into a US port. Probably lose between 1M and 2.5M people.

The biological angle is always a possibility too, but that's tougher to pull-off. We're overdue for a pandemic anyway (i.e. a SARS or bird-flu type thing) so maybe that will get to us first.

We should be having a national debate about proactive versus reactive foreign policy. Instead, we'll waste the next few years with Congressional inquiries regarding Dick Cheney and bitching about Iraq.
 
I am in the Massachusetts Medical Reserve corps. They started recruiting aggressively about two years ago. I am not saying we are ready as a Nation, however we are light years ahead of where we were on 9/11.

Here is the agenda of our last course, we have to take a ton of them.

PURPOSE: This one-day course is designed to provide Emergency Responders baseline Awareness Level knowledge of Weapons of Mass Destruction, and the challenges created when an incident of WMD occurs.

MODULES:
• Prevention & Deterrence
• Chemical Agents
• Biological Agents
• Radiological Agents
• Explosive Devices

AUDIENCE: Law Enforcement, Emergency Medical Services, Emergency Management Agencies,
Fire Services, Hazardous Material (Hazmat) Teams, Department of Public Works, Government Administrative Personnel, Public Safety Communications, and Department of Public Health.


mrplunkey said:
I don't know if it will collapse us though. My best guess is an Iranian or NK nuke (possibly an old ruskie one too) being snuck-into a US port. Probably lose between 1M and 2.5M people.

The biological angle is always a possibility too, but that's tougher to pull-off. We're overdue for a pandemic anyway (i.e. a SARS or bird-flu type thing) so maybe that will get to us first.

We should be having a national debate about proactive versus reactive foreign policy. Instead, we'll waste the next few years with Congressional inquiries regarding Dick Cheney and bitching about Iraq.
 
redguru said:
This spiral may be stopped by a major terrorist act beyond the pale. This act will probably occur in the next ten years. However, I don't think it will be nuclear but biological. God help us all when it does happen.


fucking unbelievable. You have lost all your credibility with that post unless you elaborate. What a huge pile of crap smeared on my face, when i read such things. Truely idiotic.
 
mightymouse69 said:
Yes I agree, however I am shocked to this day how fast the memory of 9/11 has faded outside the North East. Some good thinkers suggest that it may take a number of major events to reinforce this, not only one unfortunately.

Like tonite, I drove over the Tobin Bridge (Boston) which goes over all the oil tanks and tankers. I hurry over it every time. Grew up with a mile of enormous LNG tanks, back then we feared fire, now a simple RPG would finish us.


bro, so you suggest that we live in fear and paranoia for the rest of our lives to make sure western civilization exists? Thats BS man, sorry. I mean, you are suggesting that we become more paranoid than we already are?

What about living a good free life bro?
 
Subzeero said:
bro, so you suggest that we live in fear and paranoia for the rest of our lives to make sure western civilization exists? Thats BS man, sorry. I mean, you are suggesting that we become more paranoid than we already are?

What about living a good free life bro?

So you believe your politically correct and corrupt government will keep you safe?

I sure don't have faith in it.

To me personally it's not about paranoia but a matter of being prepared instead. I see nothing wrong with that.
 
Subzeero said:
bro, so you suggest that we live in fear and paranoia for the rest of our lives to make sure western civilization exists? Thats BS man, sorry. I mean, you are suggesting that we become more paranoid than we already are?

What about living a good free life bro?

not at all, fear is worrying about things that probably wont' happen. taking swift action is for those that know it will happen, just when is the question.

I bet you don't know one person who has died violently, where I know dozens...don't lecture me boy.
 
Subzeero said:
fucking unbelievable. You have lost all your credibility with that post unless you elaborate. What a huge pile of crap smeared on my face, when i read such things. Truely idiotic.

Biological agents are readily transportable, more easily concealed and take time to disperse. You can infect one aircraft with a severe flu strain for example, and it would take a couple weeks to develop into an endemic. I'm not speaking from a medical standpoint but a mathematical one. It's a standard logarithmic function. The culprit can make a clean getaway without anyone even knowing that a WMD has been used.

The reason I suspect that a biological agent will be used before a nuclear one is that the agents are more readily available to those that wish us harm. You can build a nuclear weapon rather easily, but creating the fuel requires sophistication not currently accessible to terrorists. That is why preventing Iran from creating as much nuclear fuel and doping it to much higher levels than standard power plant fuel is essential to our National interests.

Oh, and by the way, isn't it ironic that you mis-spelled truly when you called me "truely idiotic"?
 
We have been talking a lot about biologic and chemical weapons, especially since the Sarin attack in Japan but nothing really ever happens (just false anthrax alerts in 01)

I'm wondering why we've not seen any catastrophe scenario where those bio/chemical weapons are used
 
alien amp pharm said:
So you believe your politically correct and corrupt government will keep you safe?

I sure don't have faith in it.

To me personally it's not about paranoia but a matter of being prepared instead. I see nothing wrong with that.


Aye....When it does finaly happen the lemmings will be cursing their Zionist controlled Government that they have supported until that time. The lemmings will die off once the TV is no longer there to tell them how to eat breath and sleep. All the while crying and praying to a god that does not exist. Crying and complaining about how they are unfortunate victims. Be prepared to fight for the right side....Or be prepared to fight for a total of 2 seconds in my crosshairs.
 
mkazzbmf said:
Aye....When it does finaly happen the lemmings will be cursing their Zionist controlled Government that they have supported until that time. The lemmings will die off once the TV is no longer there to tell them how to eat breath and sleep. All the while crying and praying to a god that does not exist. Crying and complaining about how they are unfortunate victims. Be prepared to fight for the right side....Or be prepared to fight for a total of 2 seconds in my crosshairs.

We all know you klansmen can't shoot. Hell, you hide behind sheets and mask your identity. Cowards, one and all, as you sit behind your keyboard spewing hate.
 
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