The dream act is such shiat

[mrplunkey]

Then your sister and stepmom have it easy.

It's a combination of both (overworked + underpaid).

The ones that I know are both (ie 14 hour days +) to make ends meet. Meanwhile, the guys I know in NY are living it up with 6 hour days.

Are you talking about the US? In the US, firing a teacher is virtually impossible. I understand that the dedicated ones would feel overwhelmed, but the apathetic ones probably have tons of time on their hands. What would they do -- fire them? Absolutely not.

 

[AFeedz]

Then your sister and stepmom have it easy.

It's a combination of both (overworked + underpaid).

The ones that I know are both (ie 14 hour days +) to make ends meet. Meanwhile, the guys I know in NY are living it up with 6 hour days.

So you're saying some teachers you know have 5+ hours of grading papers every single day? Because I don't see how that's possible, minus the occasional essay/project.

Public school overcrowding I guess is the only other reason I could think of, but my county is pretty overcrowded. At one point, I was going to highschool from 12p-6p while the other half went from 6a-12p and even then, I wouldn't say my stepmom and mom who was a teacher at the time had 5+ hours of homework a day outside of their regular work day.

 

[EnderJE]

Are you talking about the US? In the US, firing a teacher is virtually impossible. I understand that the dedicated ones would feel overwhelmed, but the apathetic ones probably have tons of time on their hands. What would they do -- fire them? Absolutely not.

Ah, good point. I was comparing non-US teachers with NY bankers.

I should tell my friends to do the same as their US counterparts (if it's that hard to be fired).

 

[EnderJE]

So you're saying some teachers you know have 5+ hours of grading papers every single day? Because I don't see how that's possible, minus the occasional essay/project.

Public school overcrowding I guess is the only other reason I could think of, but my county is pretty overcrowded. At one point, I was going to highschool from 12p-6p while the other half went from 6a-12p and even then, I wouldn't say my stepmom and mom who was a teacher at the time had 5+ hours of homework a day outside of their regular work day.

Well, the local school starts at 8 and goes to 4. After then they have grading papers, lesson preparation and one is accountable for the math club and student body.

I keep telling them to quit or do something else that they love that earns more.

 

[mrplunkey]

Ah, good point. I was comparing non-US teachers with NY bankers.

I should tell my friends to do the same as their US counterparts (if it's that hard to be fired).

Their US counterparts have employment for life. The worst that can be done to them is either sent to a rubber room (with full benefits and pay) or transferred to another school (the dance of the lemons).

I would feel for US teachers if they would just police themselves. They need to kick-out the unions and put their own, self-developed performance standards in place. Then if they want more money, I'd say go for it.

 

[AFeedz]

Their US counterparts have employment for life. The worst that can be done to them is either sent to a rubber room (with full benefits and pay) or transferred to another school (the dance of the lemons).

I would feel for US teachers if they would just police themselves. They need to kick-out the unions and put their own, self-developed performance standards in place. Then if they want more money, I'd say go for it.

More than a few teachers were fired from my public high school. Just sayin'.

Not that it matters. They've been laid off by the thousands lately.

 

[puddlemonkey]

look what you started cw, jeez.

 

[musclemom]

Are you talking about the US? In the US, firing a teacher is virtually impossible. I understand that the dedicated ones would feel overwhelmed, but the apathetic ones probably have tons of time on their hands. What would they do -- fire them? Absolutely not.

Not around these parts. The Philadelphia school district just made a bunch of cuts -- and not shit like maintenance, they're cutting the arts programs, the vo-tech programs, sports, everything but the 3-Rs:

Although the Philadelphia School District has already shed more than 3,000 workers from its payroll, more pink slips are coming, an official warned Friday.

"There will be more layoffs," chief financial officer Michael Masch said after a special School Reform Commission meeting.

As of Friday, the district had lost about 3,400 jobs - 2,778 of them through a reduction in force.

Because the district was banking on charter-school reimbursement that the state this week did not provide, officials must now figure out how to close a $35 million gap - on top of the $629 million it already slashed with layoffs and deep cuts to programs and school budgets.

 

[digimon7068]

Not around these parts. The Philadelphia school district just made a bunch of cuts -- and not shit like maintenance, they're cutting the arts programs, the vo-tech programs, sports, everything but the 3-Rs:

our governor's charter school and voucher initiatives are horseshit...other than the proprietors of the charter schools, he's the only one that seems to be supporting it...and, if it passes (against the citizen's wishes) it will hamstring many public schools to the point where the whole no child left behind act will be...well...left behind. public education is failing because to many parents suck.

 

[jnevin]

not another angry white man thread.

GTF over it already. the civil war was 150 years ago

Nice gyno.