The 25 MOST ASKED (and misunderstood) Questions On EF. Don't Ask Again!

[needtogetaas]

From now on, whenever anyone asks any of these questions, refer them to this post.



#1 Q: What's stronger, drol or dball?

A: In general, orals with high mgs are WEAKER. That's why they have a higher dose. Do not confuse dosage with strength. Winstrol is stronger than drol mg per mg. mg per mg, dball is the most effective oral.

#2 Q: What's the best testosterone?

A: Test is test. Prop is a bit more bioavailable but personally the daily shots aren't worth it. Other than that, it's a pointless discussion.

#3 Q: Should I use fast acting esters for a short cycle?

A: There is no such thing as a fast acting ester, just a short one. Prop isn't effective any quicker than cyp, it is just inactive faster.

#4 Q: How long does it take for a cycle to kick in?

A: In spite of what most people think or say, you are in an heightened anabolic state within one hour of the first injection.

#5 Q: What's a good Bridge?

A: The Brooklyn bridge.

#6: Q: Should I use an anti aromatase during a cycle and a SERM afterward?

A: A little anti aromatase both during and after. Too much will hinder gains and health. SERMS are inconsistent, unreliable and have the potential for too many negative side effects including backlash of symptoms.

#7 Q: How long should I wait between cycles?

A: Twice the length of the cycle.

#8 Q: How long should I stay on?

A: One month minimum, 12 weeks maximum. Anything less is a waste, anything more may cause permanent suppression.

#9 Q: When do I take HCG?

A: When you experience testicular athrophy and/or following a cycle. Taking more is a waste and will just increase e levels.

#10 Q: Is there anything else I can take for PCT?

A: UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Sustain. This is mandatory for best recovery.

#11 Q: Can I overtrain while I'm on?

A: Try your best to do so.

#12 Q: At what age should I start?

A: Over 21 with at least 4 years of serious training. Even then, you could probably pack on another 10 pounds naturally with improved training and supps like BIG BLAST, VIGOR, Dermacrine, Amp 02 and others.

#13 Q: Once I've entered the dark side , will natural gains come slower?

A: Yes.

#14 Q: What do the pros take?

A: It doesn't matter. Some take less than some noobies. Others take more than you have in your bank account. Pros aren't pros because of their stacks. They're pros because they have freaky genetics.

#15 Q: Were the old timers really natural?

A: Many have been honest with their drug use but no one can ever know for sure. One thing is certain, the dosages they took are far below those used by most amateurs and hobbyists today. The difference is, they knew how to train. For more on that, check out this : http://www.elitefitness.com/reports/truth/

#16 Q: What's the best way to use DNP and insulin.

A: By keeping it in the bottle.

#17 Q: Is HGH worth the cost?

A: No.

#18 Q: What's the best pre workout stim?

A: They're all the same, the only difference being the dosage. 10 mgs of caffeine is 10 mgs of caffeine regardless of the label. In this regard members should support the site and you won't find a better pre workout stim at a better price than Lipoflame. For increased fat burning without additional stims, proteinfactory ZIP is the logical choice because it hypes the thyroid, not the CNS. The two together are more powerful and effective than anything legal, and even a lot of stuff that isn't.

#19 Q: Where can I find steroids?

A: Nowhere that any of us know about.

# 20 Q: If I'm shut down, does it matter how much I use or how long I'm on?

A: First, know if you're actually shut down and that can only be determined by a blood test. People mistake suppression for "shutdown' and wind up dependant on HRT decades before they needed it. This is serious shit. Know what you're doing or expect to fuck yourself up.

#21: Can I...?

A: You can do whatever you want. That doesn't change the consequences of any action.

#22 Q: How's this cycle?

A: It's fine. Now go lift some weights.

#23 Q: I get gyno if I use Deca. What should I do?

A: Don't use Deca.

#24 Q: What supplements aren't worth using?

A: 98% of them. Anything by the major companies will be overpriced and anything by the smaller companies can't be trusted, especially prohormones which ALL SUCK and have side effects that far outweigh the benefits no matter what anyone claims to the contrary.

# 25 YES, YOU CAN DRINK WINNY!!!

I really wanted to disagree with something but I can't. Even 23. I use deca all the time but I get no sides from it.

 

[eddymerckx]

i think gear is about choices and degrees of risk.

you can decide little risk to high risk--its is all a personal choice.

 

[sensational]

#16 Q: What's the best way to use DNP and insulin.

A: By keeping it in the bottle.
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You're right, I don't know if this is condemning, but it is suggesting that it shouldn't be taken.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I really wanted to disagree with something but I can't. Even 23. I use deca all the time but I get no sides from it.

That wasn't to suggest not to use Deca specifically, (though I'm not a fan of it) more to avoid anything that gives you trouble.

 

[needtogetaas]

That wasn't to suggest not to use Deca specifically, (though I'm not a fan of it) more to avoid anything that gives you trouble.

True. If deca gives you problems then you really don't need it. Other aas can give same results or like results. I just love deca myself. If you are like me and you get no bad effects from it. It is like the staple of all cycles.

 

[eddymerckx]

You're right, I don't know if this is condemning, but it is suggesting that it shouldn't be taken.

i think, if at all possible, we should discourage use of dnp.

the bros that do it are well beyond asking the board about it and hardcore enough that any opinion they read is of no account.

for the tens of thousands of people that just read the posts--dnp should not even be on the radar.

but as i said above--to each his own level of risk.

 

[Mavafanculo]

I agree that Insulin and DNP are very dangerous substances, but when used correctly they are safe.

I understand that the lethal dose of DNP is only 4 times the effective dose, but why do we completely condemn DNP use on this board?

I know phenol's are suppose to be carcinogenic, and that there are very possible severe effects, but some of us are natural endomorphs (like myself) and DNP is invaluable in a bodybuilding supplement program.

this board's audience is primarily beginner and intermediate level BB'ers. Why would someone who isnt competing at a Pro show with Big Bucks in prizes and endorsements on the line risk immediate one dose death (not possible maybe long term complications from chronic use)? just fucking diet down 2 more weeks.

Top level Pro BB's arent coming here looking for advice on how to use DNP. young BB'ers are. In my opinion we should do everything we can to discourage its use in that demo.

You heard of the recent (6 months back) liquid research lab clen batch that was overdosed at 10x label concentration? if that was DNP the results would have been catastrophic.

how many times have you forgotten whether you took your vitamin or supp and said "eh I'll just take another". with DNP.....

just not worth it bro.

 

[needtogetaas]

This is how the board works together!!!!!

 

[sensational]

this board's audience is primarily beginner and intermediate level BB'ers. Why would someone who isnt competing at a Pro show with Big Bucks in prizes and endorsements on the line risk immediate one dose death (not possible maybe long term complications from chronic use)? just fucking diet down 2 more weeks.

Top level Pro BB's arent coming here looking for advice on how to use DNP. young BB'ers are. In my opinion we should do everything we can to discourage its use in that demo.

You heard of the recent (6 months back) liquid research lab clen batch that was overdosed at 10x label concentration? if that was DNP the results would have been catastrophic.

how many times have you forgotten whether you took your vitamin or supp and said "eh I'll just take another". with DNP.....

just not worth it bro.

I completely understand and agree when it is put in those terms. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[hurricane]

i duuno dudes .. i used dnp 3-4 times with the biggest problem being a rash on my arms that was corrected with an anti-hist .. for my own personal use i have no problem with it .. for others i cant speak for them or do i know how it will affect them but i have read of rare cases of death mostly for mis-use ..