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Re: PCT For A New Generation. READ THIS Before Asking Any PCT Questions!!!
Good thread we got going here.
Good thread we got going here.
The 25 MOST ASKED (and misunderstood) Questions On EF. Don't Ask Again!
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daville
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Re: PCT For A New Generation. READ THIS Before Asking Any PCT Questions!!!
nolva crushed my libido too. my cycle is test e 500/w 14 weeks, eq 400/w 11 weeks, var 50/d last 4 weeks. so since my cycle isnt vary harsh .5mg every 3 days is cool? i got PP test recovery combo, i got some tribex, and i wanna run the adex and hopefully bounce back smooth this time.
nolva crushed my libido too. my cycle is test e 500/w 14 weeks, eq 400/w 11 weeks, var 50/d last 4 weeks. so since my cycle isnt vary harsh .5mg every 3 days is cool? i got PP test recovery combo, i got some tribex, and i wanna run the adex and hopefully bounce back smooth this time.
Re: PCT For A New Generation. READ THIS Before Asking Any PCT Questions!!!
Dude, did you read the thread? What makes you think a less effective dose of something that sucks is going to be better?
Tribex sucks. I used to get cases of that stuff for free and it didn't do shit. Plus there seems to be new evidence that shows Tribulus increases prolactin. Some guys claim increased libido from it but also a "loss of sensitivity" in the penis. That could very well be increased prolactin.
Re-read the post and follow it. You'll be golden.
daville said:
Dude, did you read the thread? What makes you think a less effective dose of something that sucks is going to be better?
Tribex sucks. I used to get cases of that stuff for free and it didn't do shit. Plus there seems to be new evidence that shows Tribulus increases prolactin. Some guys claim increased libido from it but also a "loss of sensitivity" in the penis. That could very well be increased prolactin.
Re-read the post and follow it. You'll be golden.
daville
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Re: PCT For A New Generation. READ THIS Before Asking Any PCT Questions!!!
yeah i read the thread. im just making sure on the adex dose based on my cycle. tribex works for me and a lot of others. just cause it doesnt work for you please dont bash it. its about help here. If you can show me the journal article on the study then ill take your advice into consideration. im tired of going off of he said she said bullshit.
Nelson Montana said:
yeah i read the thread. im just making sure on the adex dose based on my cycle. tribex works for me and a lot of others. just cause it doesnt work for you please dont bash it. its about help here. If you can show me the journal article on the study then ill take your advice into consideration. im tired of going off of he said she said bullshit.
Re: PCT For A New Generation. READ THIS Before Asking Any PCT Questions!!!
Show me journal that says Tribex works. All these years later and tribulus is still nothing but a rumor. Now, the OLD Tribex had avenacosides and that worked really well. But they changed the dosage and the new stuff isn't nearly as potent. If it still works for you, great, but it's the avenacodises that give the effect , not the tribulus. And that being the case UNLEASHED is far more potent.
daville said:
Show me journal that says Tribex works. All these years later and tribulus is still nothing but a rumor. Now, the OLD Tribex had avenacosides and that worked really well. But they changed the dosage and the new stuff isn't nearly as potent. If it still works for you, great, but it's the avenacodises that give the effect , not the tribulus. And that being the case UNLEASHED is far more potent.
From now on, whenever anyone asks any of these questions, refer them to this post.
#1 Q: What's stronger, drol or dball?
A: In general, orals with high mgs are WEAKER. That's why they have a higher dose. Do not confuse dosage with strength. Winstrol is stronger than drol mg per mg. mg per mg, dball is the most effective oral.
#2 Q: What's the best testosterone?
A: Test is test. Prop is a bit more bioavailable but personally the daily shots aren't worth it. Other than that, it's a pointless discussion.
#3 Q: Should I use fast acting esters for a short cycle?
A: There is no such thing as a fast acting ester, just a short one. Prop isn't effective any quicker than cyp, it is just inactive faster.
#4 Q: How long does it take for a cycle to kick in?
A: In spite of what most people think or say, you are in an heightened anabolic state within one hour of the first injection.
#5 Q: What's a good Bridge?
A: The Brooklyn bridge.
#6: Q: Should I use an anti aromatase during a cycle and a SERM afterward?
A: A little anti aromatase both during and after. Too much will hinder gains and health. SERMS are inconsistent, unreliable and have the potential for too many negative side effects including backlash of symptoms.
#7 Q: How long should I wait between cycles?
A: Twice the length of the cycle.
#8 Q: How long should I stay on?
A: One month minimum, 12 weeks maximum. Anything less is a waste, anything more may cause permanent suppression.
#9 Q: When do I take HCG?
A: When you experience testicular athrophy and/or following a cycle. Taking more is a waste and will just increase e levels.
#10 Q: Is there anything else I can take for PCT?
A: UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Sustain. This is mandatory for best recovery.
#11 Q: Can I overtrain while I'm on?
A: Try your best to do so.
#12 Q: At what age should I start?
A: Over 21 with at least 4 years of serious training. Even then, you could probably pack on another 10 pounds naturally with improved training and supps like BIG BLAST, VIGOR, Dermacrine, Amp 02 and others.
#13 Q: Once I've entered the dark side , will natural gains come slower?
A: Yes.
#14 Q: What do the pros take?
A: It doesn't matter. Some take less than some noobies. Others take more than you have in your bank account. Pros aren't pros because of their stacks. They're pros because they have freaky genetics.
#15 Q: Were the old timers really natural?
A: Many have been honest with their drug use but no one can ever know for sure. One thing is certain, the dosages they took are far below those used by most amateurs and hobbyists today. The difference is, they knew how to train. For more on that, check out this : http://www.elitefitness.com/reports/truth/
#16 Q: What's the best way to use DNP and insulin.
A: By keeping it in the bottle.
#17 Q: Is HGH worth the cost?
A: No.
#18 Q: What's the best pre workout stim?
A: They're all the same, the only difference being the dosage. 10 mgs of caffeine is 10 mgs of caffeine regardless of the label. In this regard members should support the site and you won't find a better pre workout stim at a better price than Lipoflame. For increased fat burning without additional stims, proteinfactory ZIP is the logical choice because it hypes the thyroid, not the CNS. The two together are more powerful and effective than anything legal, and even a lot of stuff that isn't.
#19 Q: Where can I find steroids?
A: Nowhere that any of us know about.
# 20 Q: If I'm shut down, does it matter how much I use or how long I'm on?
A: First, know if you're actually shut down and that can only be determined by a blood test. People mistake suppression for "shutdown' and wind up dependant on HRT decades before they needed it. This is serious shit. Know what you're doing or expect to fuck yourself up.
#21: Can I...?
A: You can do whatever you want. That doesn't change the consequences of any action.
#22 Q: How's this cycle?
A: It's fine. Now go lift some weights.
#23 Q: I get gyno if I use Deca. What should I do?
A: Don't use Deca.
#24 Q: What supplements aren't worth using?
A: 98% of them. Anything by the major companies will be overpriced and anything by the smaller companies can't be trusted, especially prohormones which ALL SUCK and have side effects that far outweigh the benefits no matter what anyone claims to the contrary.
# 25 YES, YOU CAN DRINK WINNY!!!
#1 Q: What's stronger, drol or dball?
A: In general, orals with high mgs are WEAKER. That's why they have a higher dose. Do not confuse dosage with strength. Winstrol is stronger than drol mg per mg. mg per mg, dball is the most effective oral.
#2 Q: What's the best testosterone?
A: Test is test. Prop is a bit more bioavailable but personally the daily shots aren't worth it. Other than that, it's a pointless discussion.
#3 Q: Should I use fast acting esters for a short cycle?
A: There is no such thing as a fast acting ester, just a short one. Prop isn't effective any quicker than cyp, it is just inactive faster.
#4 Q: How long does it take for a cycle to kick in?
A: In spite of what most people think or say, you are in an heightened anabolic state within one hour of the first injection.
#5 Q: What's a good Bridge?
A: The Brooklyn bridge.
#6: Q: Should I use an anti aromatase during a cycle and a SERM afterward?
A: A little anti aromatase both during and after. Too much will hinder gains and health. SERMS are inconsistent, unreliable and have the potential for too many negative side effects including backlash of symptoms.
#7 Q: How long should I wait between cycles?
A: Twice the length of the cycle.
#8 Q: How long should I stay on?
A: One month minimum, 12 weeks maximum. Anything less is a waste, anything more may cause permanent suppression.
#9 Q: When do I take HCG?
A: When you experience testicular athrophy and/or following a cycle. Taking more is a waste and will just increase e levels.
#10 Q: Is there anything else I can take for PCT?
A: UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Sustain. This is mandatory for best recovery.
#11 Q: Can I overtrain while I'm on?
A: Try your best to do so.
#12 Q: At what age should I start?
A: Over 21 with at least 4 years of serious training. Even then, you could probably pack on another 10 pounds naturally with improved training and supps like BIG BLAST, VIGOR, Dermacrine, Amp 02 and others.
#13 Q: Once I've entered the dark side , will natural gains come slower?
A: Yes.
#14 Q: What do the pros take?
A: It doesn't matter. Some take less than some noobies. Others take more than you have in your bank account. Pros aren't pros because of their stacks. They're pros because they have freaky genetics.
#15 Q: Were the old timers really natural?
A: Many have been honest with their drug use but no one can ever know for sure. One thing is certain, the dosages they took are far below those used by most amateurs and hobbyists today. The difference is, they knew how to train. For more on that, check out this : http://www.elitefitness.com/reports/truth/
#16 Q: What's the best way to use DNP and insulin.
A: By keeping it in the bottle.
#17 Q: Is HGH worth the cost?
A: No.
#18 Q: What's the best pre workout stim?
A: They're all the same, the only difference being the dosage. 10 mgs of caffeine is 10 mgs of caffeine regardless of the label. In this regard members should support the site and you won't find a better pre workout stim at a better price than Lipoflame. For increased fat burning without additional stims, proteinfactory ZIP is the logical choice because it hypes the thyroid, not the CNS. The two together are more powerful and effective than anything legal, and even a lot of stuff that isn't.
#19 Q: Where can I find steroids?
A: Nowhere that any of us know about.
# 20 Q: If I'm shut down, does it matter how much I use or how long I'm on?
A: First, know if you're actually shut down and that can only be determined by a blood test. People mistake suppression for "shutdown' and wind up dependant on HRT decades before they needed it. This is serious shit. Know what you're doing or expect to fuck yourself up.
#21: Can I...?
A: You can do whatever you want. That doesn't change the consequences of any action.
#22 Q: How's this cycle?
A: It's fine. Now go lift some weights.
#23 Q: I get gyno if I use Deca. What should I do?
A: Don't use Deca.
#24 Q: What supplements aren't worth using?
A: 98% of them. Anything by the major companies will be overpriced and anything by the smaller companies can't be trusted, especially prohormones which ALL SUCK and have side effects that far outweigh the benefits no matter what anyone claims to the contrary.
# 25 YES, YOU CAN DRINK WINNY!!!
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