Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I am about I start my first ever cycle of deca 200 and Suss 250. I'm going to start with deca Monday of 0.5ml Tuesday Suss 250 of 0.5ml Wednesday deca 0.5ml Thursday Suss of 0.5ml and Friday 0.5ml and weekends I'll take a break. Will I need to take e blocker? I will probably do a 8 week cycle. Should I take this any other way? I am 84kg and 180cm
Suss and deca
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gymjunkie09
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deca can be a tricky compound. Usually recommended test only for first cycle
gymjunkie09
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well not to be a dick but if you don't know then you definitly shouldn't be running it. But to answer your question deca raises prolactin and progesterone levels causing gyno and "deca dick" and it's also a very hard compound to recover from so If pct isnt right on the money then you're risking a long and grueling recovery with no libido whatsoever, and basically just feel like sh1t all the time. So if you don't know what you're doing you're just gonna f#@k yourself up.....you're all over the place with your pins and have no idea of what do use for pct, you're not ready for a cycle and you could end up causing irreversable damage to yourself if you jump into it without knowing what you're doing
gymjunkie09
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what are your stats, training experience, diet and routine you plan on running for this cycle?
I train 5-6 times a week. Each muscle group twice. Cardio 3 times a week. Eat clean with little carbs. Plenty of fish, chicken and vegetable. Red meats also. I was thinking of keeping the same diet and consuming 300g of protein a day. How do I check my pct and what else do I need to do to plan and prepare for this?
Bidwelling
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Dude you know nothing about what our about to put in you. You need to read a book and research and look through the PCT part of these forums. This stuff isn't just something you decide to do all of a sudden. It's not creatine. This is the real deal and you need to know way more before u even think about pinning. I don't want to be negative but your not going to find out everything you need to do by by posting this in one forum.
pct is "post cycle therapy" it is what you will need to take in order to restore your natural test production.
with deca pct is extremely important. Also you need to take proper supplements/drugs just to deal w/ the sides from deca which will also make pct easier to accomplish.
you need to do some research before you start this cycle. there are a ton of threads on first cycles. read them. there are a ton of threads on good diets while cycling. read them. same with routines.. read them.. then put them in practice while training naturally for a few months. you will gain a bunch of weight and strength then if you feel ready start your cycle.. but make sure you have purchased everything you need and it is right in front of you before you start. pct/ supps / everything you need.
also what are you goals for this cycle?
with deca pct is extremely important. Also you need to take proper supplements/drugs just to deal w/ the sides from deca which will also make pct easier to accomplish.
you need to do some research before you start this cycle. there are a ton of threads on first cycles. read them. there are a ton of threads on good diets while cycling. read them. same with routines.. read them.. then put them in practice while training naturally for a few months. you will gain a bunch of weight and strength then if you feel ready start your cycle.. but make sure you have purchased everything you need and it is right in front of you before you start. pct/ supps / everything you need.
also what are you goals for this cycle?
gymjunkie09
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Deca is probably the last thing you wanna run a low carb diet with. It's very carb/calorie dependant. People run deca to pile on mass because that's what it does, but it won't if you're not eating properly
do more research.. you can start with the sticky titled: taking steroids 101. then you can go to drugprofiles.com and read up. and then you can read my signature link on pct's and cycles.
you have the right attitude but you need atleast a year of research before you are ready. don't learn this stuff on the fly or you will hurt yourself.
don't even think about running deca for a first cycle. gymjunkie described why beautifully above (might have to copy that post for the future)
you have the right attitude but you need atleast a year of research before you are ready. don't learn this stuff on the fly or you will hurt yourself.
don't even think about running deca for a first cycle. gymjunkie described why beautifully above (might have to copy that post for the future)
this is correct. deca will increase your appetite and that is the #1 reason its a great bulker. not something you want to use to cut with when you are gonna want to be hitting the buffet every night
Sherk
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Test only like sust is a great first cycle but like everyone is trying to tell you, do a lot of research first. Please take the advice that's been given to you so we aren't reading a thread later about you having gyno and you don't know how to get rid of it. Or your dick doesn't work, you have no sex drive and just feel weak all the time and lost all of your gains and you feel like you wasted your money.
You're not ready for even a test only cycle. You can still cause a lot of harm to yourself. There's so much information to help you learn on here. Take advantage of it. The best way to learn isn't by us telling you what you're doing wrong and that you're not ready. The best way is to research yourself and keep researching until you fully understand what you're doing and taking. If you have certain questions that aren't being answered in your research, then by all means post your question.
You're not ready for even a test only cycle. You can still cause a lot of harm to yourself. There's so much information to help you learn on here. Take advantage of it. The best way to learn isn't by us telling you what you're doing wrong and that you're not ready. The best way is to research yourself and keep researching until you fully understand what you're doing and taking. If you have certain questions that aren't being answered in your research, then by all means post your question.
Corp jonesy
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You really need to listen to the advice these experinced bros are giving you. I've researced for nearly 2 years and have decided to run my first test only cycle in January. I've put in 8 hard years training and learnt how to eat properly and my weight has gone from 150 to 225. 
RADAR
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Yes you can, The reasoning for not running 2 compounds together like Deca & Test is if you start getting sides from one of them you won't know which one is causing it,(is it Progestrone related From Deca or Estrogen from the Test?) Since you don't know how neither acts you can make a mess taking stuff trying to fix the problem,thats the reasoning for one compound only, after you know how your body reacts to test next time add Deca,or Primo, Or EQ.
A good PCT is POST CYCLE<UNLEASHED NTBM
Use RADAR15 for 15% off your order
And get some Forma Stanazol for Bloat ot on comming gyno.Even if you don't need it for anything you can
A- Save it for Next Cycle
B- Use it for PCT to help solidify gains
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