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Stop Kidding Yourselves!

Lol at Nelson sure knows how to stir up a hornets nest and keep things interesting around here.

I have to say all my training is based around just building muscle, I have been leaning out narurally as I put on size, so I have to agree with Nelson to a point. On the other hand goal setting is an important part of productive peoples lives and most people need goals to feel as if the are accomplishing something both short and long term.

Do what works best for you bro's!!!!
 
so we can have goals, but we are not alowed to talk about them? I mean do you even think before you type?


Do you attempt to comprehend before you respond?

Let me put it in simpler terms. Expecting X result from a particular cycle is stupid. Go as far as you can go. THAT should be the goal.
 
goals are not limits but stepping stones.......goals are meant to be broken. people don't say, my goal is 20lbs and not an oz more. they are just stating they want to reach AT LEAST that 20lb marker, then they reset their goals after breaking previous one.
My goal is to make Nelson HAPPY ! ANy suggestions??? How bout some nudes of my wife will that wurk, anyhting to make you smile.
 
AMEN Bro! It is a lifelong pursuit. If you're a bodybuilder then your goal should be to get big, ripped and symmetrical. If you are a power lifter or strong man competitor your goals should be to get stronger.

You can't predict the results of any cycle accurately. It's not only the compounds it's the whole ball of wax, training, nutrition (which I think is the 2nd most important element), gear and recovery which go hand in hand. The gear helps you recover faster. It's not magic. I see too many bros that only focus on the gear and seem to forget the rest.

I met a guy in my gym last yr and he was asking me what I took. When I told him 500mg Test-E and 400mg Deca/wk he thought I was full of shit. He was about 6 ft tall and 185 lbs. He told me he was taking 1.5 grams Test-E per wk, and 800mg wk of EQ, along with 50 mg Dbol ED and he hadn't been off cycle in 5 yrs and couldn't gain shit.

I told him I though he was taking way too much gear. I have never taken that much gear in 1 cycle in my life. I tried to explain it isn't the gear that makes all the difference. When we got into the conversation of training, nutrition and recovery he was way over training and under eating. When I pointed this out to him he wanted to argue that it was his genetics and he was a hard gainer and no matter what he did he couldn't get any bigger.

I finally gave up and told him, well I guess you're right Bro. I must not know shit because I'm only 5' 9", 265, 8% B/F and have had a pro card for nearly 20 yrs. I guess I must just be lucky and left him alone.

The moral of the story and the MOST important ingredient Nelson didn't mention here is...Have an OPEN MIND. Make it a point to try to learn something new about the lifestyle everyday. Read this board and others, read a few books on training, nutrition, supplementation and AAS and talk to us vets that have been around for yrs.

Nelson's right, stop kidding yourself.

I have run into tools like this as well and I'm no where near your size. They ask questions about what they are doing wrong but don't want to hear the answers. I tell them my opinion and they say the same shit, "My genetics won't let me gain any more no matter what I do." Yet, I'm telling them WHAT TO DO! lol Its like, do you want to know what you're doing wrong or not?
 
AMEN Bro! It is a lifelong pursuit. If you're a bodybuilder then your goal should be to get big, ripped and symmetrical. If you are a power lifter or strong man competitor your goals should be to get stronger.

You can't predict the results of any cycle accurately. It's not only the compounds it's the whole ball of wax, training, nutrition (which I think is the 2nd most important element), gear and recovery which go hand in hand. The gear helps you recover faster. It's not magic. I see too many bros that only focus on the gear and seem to forget the rest.

I met a guy in my gym last yr and he was asking me what I took. When I told him 500mg Test-E and 400mg Deca/wk he thought I was full of shit. He was about 6 ft tall and 185 lbs. He told me he was taking 1.5 grams Test-E per wk, and 800mg wk of EQ, along with 50 mg Dbol ED and he hadn't been off cycle in 5 yrs and couldn't gain shit.

I told him I though he was taking way too much gear. I have never taken that much gear in 1 cycle in my life. I tried to explain it isn't the gear that makes all the difference. When we got into the conversation of training, nutrition and recovery he was way over training and under eating. When I pointed this out to him he wanted to argue that it was his genetics and he was a hard gainer and no matter what he did he couldn't get any bigger.

I finally gave up and told him, well I guess you're right Bro. I must not know shit because I'm only 5' 9", 265, 8% B/F and have had a pro card for nearly 20 yrs. I guess I must just be lucky and left him alone.

The moral of the story and the MOST important ingredient Nelson didn't mention here is...Have an OPEN MIND. Make it a point to try to learn something new about the lifestyle everyday. Read this board and others, read a few books on training, nutrition, supplementation and AAS and talk to us vets that have been around for yrs.

Nelson's right, stop kidding yourself.

I have run into tools like this as well and I'm no where near your size. They ask questions about what they are doing wrong but don't want to hear the answers. I tell them my opinion and they say the same shit, "My genetics won't let me gain any more no matter what I do." Yet, I'm telling them WHAT TO DO! lol Its like, do you want to know what you're doing wrong or not?
 
small cawk looks better on a smaller man that a bigger man..u might want to stop working out to get smaller.


just sayin

I never thought about it that way. Then i should get tiny and cut as a twig to make my cock look fat? I've been doing it all wrong.

Out with the dbol and in with the winny.

Winny gets you cut right?
 
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