So you want to gain weight...

[UA_Iron]

If one cannot understand the order of the listings in coordinance with the importance, i don't know what else i can do... that's why its split into sections...

I have had considerable gains with all the products listed or i wouldn't bother even talking about them... and if you do searches and research you will find that so many have had success with one or another of these... I am not saying to take them all at the same time or that they are all you need... I am simply stating these are other ways to help pass a plateau... there are too many people who think they are stuck at a certain level... which is not the case... why do we use aas? to get to the next level when were stuck... why do we use weight gainers or mass builders? to get to the next level when were stuck... like i said, and i will say it one more time... your diet is and will always be number 1 in terms of pretty much everything... but if/when something else is needed, these are excellent options... i dont know how else to put it or break it down...

Is English your first or second language?

"Considerable" is subjective. How many pounds? I'm not saying they do not work, I'm saying that the obvious first choice is understated by quite a bit, even thought you had breezed over it in your introductory paragraph.

 

[calpoly]

and it clearly states at the beginning of the post that upping your calories is the first priority... but to help get over the hump when you are stuck, these supplements will help to get over that... just like aas or ph helps you get past a plateau for strength and muscles...

the beginning CLEARLY says to up your calories first...

Maybe elaborate more on increasing food intake, because that's what's most important. 80% of this write-up is about what supplements to take, and no offense, sounds like an advertisement.

 

[dylangemelli]

Is English your first or second language?

"Considerable" is subjective. How many pounds? I'm not saying they do not work, I'm saying that the obvious first choice is understated by quite a bit, even thought you had breezed over it in your introductory paragraph.

i have more education you could ever dream of so please do not go there... when you are at work and typing quickly in between customers its not exactly easy to do...

even "thought"... do YOU SPEAK ENGLISH?

you know, if you want to comment on post its one thing, but to be a prick is another thing altogether... if you don't like something, fine, you are entitled to your opinion but seriously, if you have nothing better to do than be an english teacher, change professions...

And if you new shit, you would know I have posted several diets for people on how to accomplish many different things so I am not sure how you can think I am not advocating the importance of diet...

There were quite a few supplements to list that I know can be of help, so I took the time to give OPTIONS... I didn't say to use them all at once nor did I imply they would be a miracle to gain 20 lbs... I did say, again, that they will help to get over a plateau... it could be 5 pounds and as far as N2BULK goes, probably ten... I have seen many people get 10 lbs. off it in a month to month and a half... Of course, things like gear and onslaught are aiding in providing more recovery and protein synthesis... they all do different things... combining them with a great diet can lead to helping gain some weight... That is the point of the post... so if there is a mixup along the way, i am sorry but I am known for talking about diet constantly on here... So this was meant to incorporate other options...

We obviously also know that people react differently to differnt things... Some people may gain 10 lbs. on something while others may gain only 5... Some people gain 10-15 lbs. on certain aas or ph's and others barely respond... Nothing is a gurantee, but there are plenty of good options and the chances of the supplements I had listed helping are higher than others... At least according to the positive feedback... and from personal use as well... So that is all the point I was trying to make man... Im sorry its such a problem for you and hopefully you can see where I am coming from... If not, well, Im sorry...

 

[Potent]

I used to think I was an ectomorph, truth is I was just a dumbass :-> I never ate. Now I eat till I'm sick every single day all day and the weight just keeps piling on. Just finished a bag of N2bulk, really awesome stuff, I'm going to point out one personal con. Serving size, it's massive. I feel like I should be getting 1000 calories when I drink 3 scoops of this stuff ha. Anyway, I found a good medium, 2 scoops and a scoop of peanut butter with almond milk makes it go down easy. Taste is great, no issues there!

Waiting on my whey2build cake batter to come in!

 

[dylangemelli]

I used to think I was an ectomorph, truth is I was just a dumbass :-> I never ate. Now I eat till I'm sick every single day all day and the weight just keeps piling on. Just finished a bag of N2bulk, really awesome stuff, I'm going to point out one personal con. Serving size, it's massive. I feel like I should be getting 1000 calories when I drink 3 scoops of this stuff ha. Anyway, I found a good medium, 2 scoops and a scoop of peanut butter with almond milk makes it go down easy. Taste is great, no issues there!

Waiting on my whey2build cake batter to come in!

Thats great to hear bro... and the combination of more food and n2bulk is excellent... im glad that it worked out for you! Nice mix you have there too!

I just got my cake batter on Saturday... Your in for a treat! =)

 

[RickRock13]

Diet, diet, diet.....


Good post Dylan

 

[muscleaddiction]

Good post Dylan, there will always be the devils advocates out there that will question your logic, shit we all know it is food, hard work in the gym, and consistency that makes muscles grow...without food people will not benefit from AAS or supplements, but the do play a critical role in the scenario and definitely help us get to where we want to be a bit faster...like N2 Bulk, which I have not tried yet due to I am trying to lean out at the moment so practicing the laws of thermogenisis at moment lol...fortunately for me I know how to put on the weight, its just taking off the fat that comes along with the weight gain...anyway, thanks for putting in the time not only on this thread but the others you have done too bro, at least you are taking the time to share your knowledge with others and help them understand some of what they can try to break past a plateau or having a hard time due to being a hard gainer...food is the most anabolic compound we can ingest, but supplements, proteins, and BCAAs have their part as well...people will always try to argue the other points, that is what is great about.these threads...hear both sides right?

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[UA_Iron]

i have more education you could ever dream of so please do not go there... when you are at work and typing quickly in between customers its not exactly easy to do...

even "thought"... do YOU SPEAK ENGLISH?

you know, if you want to comment on post its one thing, but to be a prick is another thing altogether... if you don't like something, fine, you are entitled to your opinion but seriously, if you have nothing better to do than be an english teacher, change professions...

And if you new shit, you would know I have posted several diets for people on how to accomplish many different things so I am not sure how you can think I am not advocating the importance of diet...

There were quite a few supplements to list that I know can be of help, so I took the time to give OPTIONS... I didn't say to use them all at once nor did I imply they would be a miracle to gain 20 lbs... I did say, again, that they will help to get over a plateau... it could be 5 pounds and as far as N2BULK goes, probably ten... I have seen many people get 10 lbs. off it in a month to month and a half... Of course, things like gear and onslaught are aiding in providing more recovery and protein synthesis... they all do different things... combining them with a great diet can lead to helping gain some weight... That is the point of the post... so if there is a mixup along the way, i am sorry but I am known for talking about diet constantly on here... So this was meant to incorporate other options...

We obviously also know that people react differently to differnt things... Some people may gain 10 lbs. on something while others may gain only 5... Some people gain 10-15 lbs. on certain aas or ph's and others barely respond... Nothing is a gurantee, but there are plenty of good options and the chances of the supplements I had listed helping are higher than others... At least according to the positive feedback... and from personal use as well... So that is all the point I was trying to make man... Im sorry its such a problem for you and hopefully you can see where I am coming from... If not, well, Im sorry...

1. If you have more education than I can dream of then you could have at least taken the time to google thermodynamics. Have you studied the subject? I have, at many levels.
2. I realized I come off as a prick, but if you proclaim to know something you can expect to be scrutinized, right? Debate is important or you just have a bunch of sheep grazing around.
3. I never questioned your knowledge of dieting, etc. I really don't care if you know everything about it or not.
4. I realize you've been helpful on this board, so it's not a personal attack. I'd rather see you posting than not posting.

 

[thedarkhalf]

Calories Surplus + Lifting Heavy/Getting Sore = Good way to grow!

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

1. If you have more education than I can dream of then you could have at least taken the time to google thermodynamics. Have you studied the subject? I have, at many levels.
2. I realized I come off as a prick, but if you proclaim to know something you can expect to be scrutinized, right? Debate is important or you just have a bunch of sheep grazing around.
3. I never questioned your knowledge of dieting, etc. I really don't care if you know everything about it or not.
4. I realize you've been helpful on this board, so it's not a personal attack. I'd rather see you posting than not posting.

I have to admit, the same thought crossed my mind. lol
If a person is going to spout science, they should probably use the correct scientific terms. Using a drastically wrong word makes a person appear like they're trying to sound smarter than they are. But, I agree overall with Dylans post; nutrition is the key and quality supplements are the booster (and in some cases a necessary one)