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So you wanna get controversial? lets do it intelligently.

Smurfy said:
The big black mandingos were sought after, no doubt, but that's not the ONLY type of black that was imported.

Even among blacks professional athlete talent is 1/hundreds of thousands.

I agree that is has more to do with economic status than race.
so if poor whites applied themselves as much as poor blacks in athletics then they would excel just as much?
 
redguru said:
Do you have some information backing that statement up? What is "the Jews"? Is it a clique? Is there some secret handshake that those Jews who control everything have? That post looks like it came from a David Duke manifesto.

Not counting certain specialized cable news systems, virtually all national and international TV news broadcast in the United States is gathered, filmed, edited, and put on the air by just three companies: American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Most televised entertainment programs viewed by Americans are broadcast by the same three networks. Each of these three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long enough period of time -- ranging from 32 years to 55 years -- for him to staff the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and thus to place his imprint finally, totally, and indelibly upon it.

In each case that man has been a Jew.

Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities Communications, Inc., a New York-based media conglomerate, the chairman of the board of directors and chief executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a Jew. He had headed the network since he became president of the predecessor corporation, American Broadcasting-Paramount Theaters, Inc., in 1953. (The name was changed to American Broadcasting Companies, Inc., in 1965.) In an interview published in the April 1, 1985, issue of Newsweek, Goldenson boasted, "I built this company [ABC] from scratch."

Under the 1985 merger terms, Goldenson became chairman of the executive committee of the new company, Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.

Although the chairman and CEO of Capital Cities now is Thomas Murphy, a Gentile, he has made no move to replace the men at ABC who served Goldenson, and the network retains its Jewish character today.

CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia, Paley left the family cigar business in 1928, when he was 27, to buy United Independent Broadcasters for $500,000. He renamed it Columbia Broadcasting System and made himself president. He became chairman of the board in 1946 and held that post until his partial retirement in 1983.

When independent broadcaster Ted Turner, a Gentile, made a bid to buy CBS in 1985, there was panic in media boardrooms across the nation. Turner had made a fortune in advertising and then had built a successful cable-TV news network, CNN. Although Turner employed a number of Jews in key executive positions in CNN and had never taken public positions contrary to Jewish interests, he is a man with a large ego and a strong personality and was regarded by Paley and the other Jews at CBS as uncontrollable: a loose cannon who might at some time in the future turn against them. Furthermore, Jewish newsman Daniel Schorr, who had worked for Turner, publicly charged that his former boss held a personal dislike for Jews.

To block Turner's bid CBS executives invited billionaire Jewish theater, hotel, insurance, and cigarette magnate Laurence Tisch to launch a "friendly" takeover of the company, and since 1986 Tisch has been the chairman and CEO of CBS, removing any threat of non-Jewish influence there.

NBC was formerly a subsidiary of Radio Corporation of America (RCA), which was controlled for 40 years, beginning in 1930, by David Sarnoff, another Jewish immigrant from Russia. When Sarnoff died in 1970 his son Robert took over. In 1986 General Electric Co. merged with RCA, and now NBC is a wholly owned subsidiary of General Electric.

There has been no move by top G-E management to change the Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personnel. To the contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: examples are Steve Friedman, hired in May 1990 as executive producer of NBC Nightly News and succeeded in January 1993 by Jeff Zuker.

also, just look at networks like nickelodeon and disney. Don't tell me for one second they are NOT run by jews. They have so many hannukah (sp dont know) and passover episodes yet do they show you buddhist holiday episodes? (no) do they show Muslim holidays? (no)

so basically the jews are able to control what is portrayed through the American media from an American's birth-->death pretty much. (yes, this is a bold statement and maybe not 100% true but close) Kids...growing up, watch nick Jr, then nickelodeon then they upgrade to DISNEY. All of these have jewish traditions and jewish families on EVERY show, etc. Then, when you get old enough to care about/watch news, all of the NEWS stations are ALSO owned by jews - many stories of Jewish sympathy are sent through TV broadcasting. example: "2 Jewish men die over a controversy in Jerusalem - they leave behind families, bright futures", etc. (while not caring to tell about the maybe 12 or so Palestinians that died in the same conflict...).

sure guru you may find something to counter my points i have brought up but this is sufficient evidence that the jews run everything broadcasted and that is why America aids Israel so damn much...because little Israel is able to manipulate the United States into working for it... :rolleyes: sad thing even though its true
 
nycgirl said:
It took me until the 60th post to realize that this thread was not intended for intelligent/controversial discourse at all.
I realized this right away, I just thought I would throw this out for the hell of it... To fit in with all of the other "intelligent comments" in this thread. Thanks for taking me seriously though... :rolleyes:
 
It's uber BS

Take an African athlete and give him a proper training, good diet and gear and he'll be just as good as any Black American

as for the Jews they were in the financial and media sectors well before WWII (re-read your history book bro)
 
anthrax said:
It's uber BS

Take an African athlete and give him a proper training, good diet and gear and he'll be just as good as any Black American

as for the Jews they were in the financial and media sectors well before WWII (re-read your history book bro)
now go a little further antrax
take an above average black sprinter and an above average white sprinter, give both of them the same training, diet and gear and who do you think will be the better sprinter when all is said and done
why are the best sprinters black? why do they hold the world record times in the 100?
why is at least 90% of the starters in the nba black?
why is 95% of the starting rbs and wide recievers in the nfl black?
is it because they try harder than whites? or is it because genetically they are better athletes?
 
1_more_rep said:
plagiaristic post edited

Your post was a word for word excerpt from Who Rules America

Who Rules America?, subtitled "Multi-national global corporations and businesses have no loyalty to any people or country, only money and power - The Alien Grip on Our News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken", written by the Research Staff of National Vanguard Magazine, PO Box 330, Hillsboro, West Virginia 24946 USA.

National Vanguard Magazine was founded by William Pierce, a reknowned anti-semite who worked with the American Nazi Party. In 1970 he left the National Socialist White People's Party.

He has promoted an idea he called "cosmotheism", a religion that stresses the supremacy of the white race.
 
redguru said:
Your post was a word for word excerpt from Who Rules America

Who Rules America?, subtitled "Multi-national global corporations and businesses have no loyalty to any people or country, only money and power - The Alien Grip on Our News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken", written by the Research Staff of National Vanguard Magazine, PO Box 330, Hillsboro, West Virginia 24946 USA.

National Vanguard Magazine was founded by William Pierce, a reknowned anti-semite who worked with the American Nazi Party. In 1970 he left the National Socialist White People's Party.

He has promoted an idea he called "cosmotheism", a religion that stresses the supremacy of the white race.

just this part about facts was from the site (and it was from another site but its on that site u linked too): Not counting certain specialized cable news systems, virtually all national and international TV news broadcast in the United States is gathered, filmed, edited, and put on the air by just three companies: American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Most televised entertainment programs viewed by Americans are broadcast by the same three networks. Each of these three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long enough period of time -- ranging from 32 years to 55 years -- for him to staff the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and thus to place his imprint finally, totally, and indelibly upon it.

In each case that man has been a Jew.

Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities Communications, Inc., a New York-based media conglomerate, the chairman of the board of directors and chief executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a Jew. He had headed the network since he became president of the predecessor corporation, American Broadcasting-Paramount Theaters, Inc., in 1953. (The name was changed to American Broadcasting Companies, Inc., in 1965.) In an interview published in the April 1, 1985, issue of Newsweek, Goldenson boasted, "I built this company [ABC] from scratch."

Under the 1985 merger terms, Goldenson became chairman of the executive committee of the new company, Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.

Although the chairman and CEO of Capital Cities now is Thomas Murphy, a Gentile, he has made no move to replace the men at ABC who served Goldenson, and the network retains its Jewish character today.

CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia, Paley left the family cigar business in 1928, when he was 27, to buy United Independent Broadcasters for $500,000. He renamed it Columbia Broadcasting System and made himself president. He became chairman of the board in 1946 and held that post until his partial retirement in 1983.

When independent broadcaster Ted Turner, a Gentile, made a bid to buy CBS in 1985, there was panic in media boardrooms across the nation. Turner had made a fortune in advertising and then had built a successful cable-TV news network, CNN. Although Turner employed a number of Jews in key executive positions in CNN and had never taken public positions contrary to Jewish interests, he is a man with a large ego and a strong personality and was regarded by Paley and the other Jews at CBS as uncontrollable: a loose cannon who might at some time in the future turn against them. Furthermore, Jewish newsman Daniel Schorr, who had worked for Turner, publicly charged that his former boss held a personal dislike for Jews.

To block Turner's bid CBS executives invited billionaire Jewish theater, hotel, insurance, and cigarette magnate Laurence Tisch to launch a "friendly" takeover of the company, and since 1986 Tisch has been the chairman and CEO of CBS, removing any threat of non-Jewish influence there.

NBC was formerly a subsidiary of Radio Corporation of America (RCA), which was controlled for 40 years, beginning in 1930, by David Sarnoff, another Jewish immigrant from Russia. When Sarnoff died in 1970 his son Robert took over. In 1986 General Electric Co. merged with RCA, and now NBC is a wholly owned subsidiary of General Electric.

There has been no move by top G-E management to change the Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personnel. To the contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: examples are Steve Friedman, hired in May 1990 as executive producer of NBC Nightly News and succeeded in January 1993 by Jeff Zuker.

facts are facts bro...even if this paper was started by a Nazi, he didn't MAKE UP these people out of thin air and they DID work when stated and it is obvious the jews control the media. Are you not used to reading an article not spinned in the Jews' favor - is it uncomfortable for you because you have been raised on it since birth? :rolleyes: its ok i do not blame you...i blame the system bro. It's a sad thing though, so sad.
 
Also, 1_more_rep, the man whose drivel you are taking as gospel also wrote the Turner Diaries under the pseudonym Andrew MacDonald. I hope you are up on recent Oklahoma history to find another man who took that book seriously.
 
hamstershaver said:
blacks are better atheltes period
sprinting, long distance running, basketball, football, they do things whites cant do, thats not racism, thats the facts
genes are genes you cant argue it, if you do you are ignorant
blacks are much more prone to glaucoma, hypertension and diabetes. why? because its in their genes


Where does this argument lead, they certainly jump better b/c of the way the ankle and achilles tendon is attached. They were made for running away from lions and catching game, they were tribal with tribal mentality, fighting each others tribes for women and territory. The truth is, is that the largest slaveowners in history were other africans and they were the ones that sold captured tribal enemies to the slave traders. This tribalism that must be genetic be the reason for the gang violence culture so predominant in the black community, is this genetic environment the reason for such a staggering percentage of black on black crime?
White people moved into harsher environments, had to become more resourceful and smarter and work together as a community in order to survive in the cold and snow, is that why the average IQ of a white person is 20 points higher than a black person even when socioe
conomic status is controlled for statistically? Why do poorer white children score better on tests than blacks from middle income richer families? Is this a genetic issue of inferiority of the darker skinned races, that they lived in less harsh, sunny climates and didnt evolve their brain to socialize and problem solve??
Lestat is a racist, no doubt about it, cleverly written for plausible deniability but he sees a person and sees the color of their skin, so does everyone else, they make assumptions of them based on what they look like. Anybody been called a cracker, a derogatory slander from black people, white people are this, white people are that, watch defcomedy jam or BET comedy and the majority of the jokes are making fun of white people b/c of the color of their skin. Hardly what Martin Luther King's dream would exemplify, I have a dream, where a man is judged not by the color of his skin but by.....

These issues and stereotypes need to be addressed, the whole problem as I see is this country had slavery a long time ago and now blacks are not the number one minority, latinos are and they succeed far better b/c they dont have this history of slavery.
And the "Blacks are better in sports b/c thats the way we bred them" argument is still racist, beyond racist, thats what white supremacists say Lestat.
All of this, is why race relations make the US suck
These arguments lead to real problems in a society that is a melting pot?
 
anthrax said:
It's uber BS

Take an African athlete and give him a proper training, good diet and gear and he'll be just as good as any Black American

as for the Jews they were in the financial and media sectors well before WWII (re-read your history book bro)
hamstershaver said:
now go a little further antrax
take an above average black sprinter and an above average white sprinter, give both of them the same training, diet and gear and who do you think will be the better sprinter when all is said and done
why are the best sprinters black? why do they hold the world record times in the 100?
why is at least 90% of the starters in the nba black?
why is 95% of the starting rbs and wide recievers in the nfl black?
is it because they try harder than whites? or is it because genetically they are better athletes?

I agree that Blacks are gifted when it comes to many sports

My point was that linking Blak superiority to slavery in the US is crap
 
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