So you wanna get controversial? lets do it intelligently.

[Lestat]

So... this is not meant to just stir shit up, its meant to spark some intelligent and debate.

I have long believed that the African slave trade in the earliest days of America created an unnatural selection resulting in a "super race." If you haven't noticed, most professional athletic leagues are dominated by African Americans. Even sports that previous did not have any African Americans in, now are seeing them rise to the to (e.g. tennis, golf).

When Africans were first brought here as slaves, it was a dangerous and trecherous journey. The WEAK often died on the ships coming over. Also, the biggest and strongest males were most sought after because of the manual labor they could do on southern plantations. These two factors basically ensured that the African Americans that made it to the US, were of superior physical stature and condition. They had the genes to make them more resilient, stronger, etc. If you want more proof, look at the fact that NBA and NFL players are largely Africans from American decent, not straight from africa, where the population is not as physically adept as the Africans here. I've heard many people agree, that in many ways this is likely true. This doesn't mean that EVERY African American is big and strong and going to be a super star athelete, it just means that in any given population, there is a high percentage these traits. African Americans are a MINORITY of the general population, but a OVERWHELMING majority in the professional sports world.

I'd also like to propose another theory of unnatural selection. This one involves Jews.

During the holocaust, millions were killed. Hitler and his regime spared those that had desireable skills... engineers, doctors, etc. I will assume that these people were of above average intelligence. The ones that were not professionals, were killed. I believe that base intelligence, IQ if you will, is partly genetically determined. I am also assuming that education is generally correlated with intelligence.. this is not always the case, but it is generally true. So the jews with lower intelligence were all killed off, the ones with above average intelligence were saved... leaving you with another super race of people. Jews don't dominate sports in the US, instead they dominate other professions.. mainly the music and movie industries.. highly profitable industries that you have to be smart to be a leader in.. there are a lot of lawyers, doctors, excutives all of jewish decent.. a disproportionate percentage compared to their percentage of the general population.

Discuss.

 

[needtogetaas]

who cares we want bombs.

 

[DieselGunz]

interesting

 

[chefbone]

It's easier to just say...FUCK 'em ALL

 

[theoak01]

I dunno bro,farm work doesnt really need many fast twitch fibers which most black athletes have alot of. you would think they would get more slow twitch fibers right? if they infact adapted over time to their surroundings.

just my thought ,but what the hell do I know

 

[jackangel]

we can't do it intelligently if you're involved, mate.

 

[needtogetaas]

I dunno bro,farm work doesnt really need many fast twitch fibers which most black athletes have alot of. you would think they would get more slow twitch fibers right? if they infact adapted over time to their surroundings.

just my thought ,but what the hell do I know

hmmmmmmmmm.bombs.

 

[jerkbox]

nah, it's a product of being poor.....a lot of time sports are the only way out of the ghetto...same applied to Irish boxers back in the day, etc etc

 

[Lestat]

I dunno bro,farm work doesnt really need many fast twitch fibers which most black athletes have alot of. you would think they would get more slow twitch fibers right? if they infact adapted over time to their surroundings.

just my thought ,but what the hell do I know

I think that slave traders picked people based on their "look".. big and powerful... not scrawny and small like the white man.

 

[1_more_rep]

So... this is not meant to just stir shit up, its meant to spark some intelligent and debate.

I have long believed that the African slave trade in the earliest days of America created an unnatural selection resulting in a "super race." If you haven't noticed, most professional athletic leagues are dominated by African Americans. Even sports that previous did not have any African Americans in, now are seeing them rise to the to (e.g. tennis, golf).

When Africans were first brought here as slaves, it was a dangerous and trecherous journey. The WEAK often died on the ships coming over. Also, the biggest and strongest males were most sought after because of the manual labor they could do on southern plantations. These two factors basically ensured that the African Americans that made it to the US, were of superior physical stature and condition. They had the genes to make them more resilient, stronger, etc. If you want more proof, look at the fact that NBA and NFL players are largely Africans from American decent, not straight from africa, where the population is not as physically adept as the Africans here. I've heard many people agree, that in many ways this is likely true. This doesn't mean that EVERY African American is big and strong and going to be a super star athelete, it just means that in any given population, there is a high percentage these traits. African Americans are a MINORITY of the general population, but a OVERWHELMING majority in the professional sports world.

I'd also like to propose another theory of unnatural selection. This one involves Jews.

During the holocaust, millions were killed. Hitler and his regime spared those that had desireable skills... engineers, doctors, etc. I will assume that these people were of above average intelligence. The ones that were not professionals, were killed. I believe that base intelligence, IQ if you will, is partly genetically determined. I am also assuming that education is generally correlated with intelligence.. this is not always the case, but it is generally true. So the jews with lower intelligence were all killed off, the ones with above average intelligence were saved... leaving you with another super race of people. Jews don't dominate sports in the US, instead they dominate other professionas.. mainly the music and movie industries.. highly profitable industries that you have to be smart to be a leader in.. there are a lot of lawyers, doctors, excutives all of jewish decent.. a disproportionate percentage compared to their percentage of the general population.

Discuss.

i agree 100% with both statements. MOST African American guys here in the US have alot of muscle packed on even if they DO NOT lift weights - result of slavery evolution i agree. However, as my brother used as an example, it's not the RACE itself that is superior - go to africa and see MANY MANY scronny people that are not strong at all. the ones that are strong mostly are from the US that, like you stated, had evolved genetics for superior physical bodies.

though i do not agree that jews are any smarter than anyone else, i agree that they control alot and wield alot of power. There are not many Jews in the world at all...yet they control a great deal of power in the world. For example, they control the American media (which many people do not know/realize). And yes, many are doctors, engineers, etc. as well.

i forget the exact statistic but there are only what 16 million jews worldwide? 16 MILLION...and they control so much over our world which has a population of 6,446,131,400.

 

[theoak01]

hmmmmmmmmm.bombs.

bombs for what broham,Im the last person who would ever be racist,im very open minded and have no hate in my what so ever.


lestat,I agree it was certainly based on appearance,but Im not sure it built super athletes,and then again im not sure many people in africa were big and strong at any point in time.but I could be wrong

 

[Lestat]

bombs for what broham,Im the last person who would ever be racist,im very open minded and have no hate in my what so ever.

you should be bombed for hating nothing. apathy sucks.

j.k.

 

[chefbone]

I'm filled with hate..........

 

[theoak01]

you should be bombed for hating nothing. apathy sucks.

j.k.

I best get working on my hate so the bombs dont flow in lol

 

[chefbone]

I best get working on my hate so the bombs dont flow in lol

It's cool bro...you're alright in my book. A good bro!!!

 

[Cutiebaby]

am i suposed to read this????

 

[needtogetaas]

bombs for what broham,Im the last person who would ever be racist,im very open minded and have no hate in my what so ever.


lestat,I agree it was certainly based on appearance,but Im not sure it built super athletes,and then again im not sure many people in africa were big and strong at any point in time.but I could be wrong

I wasent saying we should bomb you bro.I was just trying to bring the subject of bombs up.

 

[theoak01]

I wasent saying we should bomb you bro.I was just trying to bring the subject of bombs up.

no more bombs today,I got my first bomb ever today and would like to avoid them for a while,it hurt my feelings.I almost cried.

 

[Hiatussin]

You carefully dodge the white supremacist branch of this method of thinking. Typical modern self hating secularism.

Jean-Philippe Rushton is a must-read

 

[nycgirl]

First, let me say that AFRICA is a continent. That said, not everyone from that continent is built the same. Many, if not all, of the slaves brought to this country were from Western Africa. Eastern Africans (I have these traits; That said, all African-Americans are not the same) are different. As well as Sahara vs. Sub-Sahara people from Africa.

 

[Sub-Zero]

i heard jews arnt even real because if evolution occured then where would the jewdaism evolve from.

it has to be intelligent design, because this way god would have had to plan for jews to become born, but if it was really intelligent then he wouldnt have made jews in the first place.

its all confusing

 

[theoak01]

First, let me say that AFRICA is a continent. That said, not everyone from that continent is built the same. Many, if not all, of the slaves brough to this country were from Western Africa. Eastern Africans (I have these traits) are different. As well as Sahara vs. Sub-Sahara people from Africa.

can you share some of this knowledge with us,Im genuinely interested in knowing how it all works.

 

[Lestat]

First, let me say that AFRICA is a continent. That said, not everyone from that continent is built the same. Many, if not all, of the slaves brought to this country were from Western Africa. Eastern Africans (I have these traits; That said, all African-Americans are not the same) are different. As well as Sahara vs. Sub-Sahara people from Africa.

its a continent.. full of countries.. full of different tribes.. full of different dialects.. etc.

I didn't mean to overly generalize... replace Africa with Western Africa in the original post.

 

[1_more_rep]

First, let me say that AFRICA is a continent. That said, not everyone from that continent is built the same. Many, if not all, of the slaves brough to this country were from Western Africa. Eastern Africans (I have these traits) are different. As well as Sahara vs. Sub-Sahara people from Africa.

WOOT represent arabs!

 

[theoak01]

i heard jews arnt even real because if evolution occured then where would the jewdaism evolve from.

it has to be intelligent design, because this way god would have had to plan for jews to become born, but if it was really intelligent then he wouldnt have made jews in the first place.

its all confusing

religion is the biggest cluster fuck in the world man,there is no way to tell your right until its to late because all religions say their god or gods are the right one. so pick something that makes you happy and hope its the right decision. and fuck what anyones opinions of it are

 

[Lestat]

religion is the biggest cluster fuck in the world man,there is no way to tell your right until its to late because all religions say their god or gods are the right one. so pick something that makes you happy and hope its the right decision. and fuck what anyones opinions of it are

agree

 

[Gambino]

So... this is not meant to just stir shit up, its meant to spark some intelligent and debate.

I have long believed that the African slave trade in the earliest days of America created an unnatural selection resulting in a "super race." If you haven't noticed, most professional athletic leagues are dominated by African Americans. Even sports that previous did not have any African Americans in, now are seeing them rise to the to (e.g. tennis, golf).

When Africans were first brought here as slaves, it was a dangerous and trecherous journey. The WEAK often died on the ships coming over. Also, the biggest and strongest males were most sought after because of the manual labor they could do on southern plantations. These two factors basically ensured that the African Americans that made it to the US, were of superior physical stature and condition. They had the genes to make them more resilient, stronger, etc. If you want more proof, look at the fact that NBA and NFL players are largely Africans from American decent, not straight from africa, where the population is not as physically adept as the Africans here. I've heard many people agree, that in many ways this is likely true. This doesn't mean that EVERY African American is big and strong and going to be a super star athelete, it just means that in any given population, there is a high percentage these traits. African Americans are a MINORITY of the general population, but a OVERWHELMING majority in the professional sports world.

I'd also like to propose another theory of unnatural selection. This one involves Jews.

During the holocaust, millions were killed. Hitler and his regime spared those that had desireable skills... engineers, doctors, etc. I will assume that these people were of above average intelligence. The ones that were not professionals, were killed. I believe that base intelligence, IQ if you will, is partly genetically determined. I am also assuming that education is generally correlated with intelligence.. this is not always the case, but it is generally true. So the jews with lower intelligence were all killed off, the ones with above average intelligence were saved... leaving you with another super race of people. Jews don't dominate sports in the US, instead they dominate other professionas.. mainly the music and movie industries.. highly profitable industries that you have to be smart to be a leader in.. there are a lot of lawyers, doctors, excutives all of jewish decent.. a disproportionate percentage compared to their percentage of the general population.

Discuss.

A correction I must make is regarding your jewish paragraph. very few jews were spared, even the talented ones. doctors, lawyers, engineers, they did not discriminate, even when it directly hurt the german machine. The germans could have had a skilled jewish slave force but they would rather them be killed. See "Hitlers Willing Executioners" by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen.
it dispells a lot of these common myths

 

[Sub-Zero]

religion is the biggest cluster fuck in the world man,there is no way to tell your right until its to late because all religions say their god or gods are the right one. so pick something that makes you happy and hope its the right decision. and fuck what anyones opinions of it are

thats why i beat off once maybe twice a day

 

[1_more_rep]

thats why i beat off once maybe twice a day

try 5-6x you horny liar.

 

[nycgirl]

can you share some of this knowledge with us,Im genuinely interested in knowing how it all works.

Yes, there will be some similarities. Its like when you go to certain countries in Europe, Spaniards are smaller than lets say the Germans or people further North. Yes, they are all white, but there is a difference. Or Mongolians vs. Japanese people.

Its not that hard to understand.

Basically this thread is generalizing. Many people forget that Africa is a continent and not a country. Yes, the people are different shades of brown and black. But there are many countries w/in that continent. Within those countries are varies tribes & communities. That said, not everyone is the same.

 

[Lestat]

A correction I must make is regarding your jewish paragraph. very few jews were spared, even the talented ones. doctors, lawyers, engineers, they did not discriminate, even when it directly hurt the german machine. The germans could have had a skilled jewish slave force but they would rather them be killed. See "Hitlers Willing Executioners" by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen.
it dispells a lot of these common myths

thanks for that..

i just remember seeing in schindlers list they kept skilled workers and professionals and stuff.. people to help them with their army and everything.. but maybe its not true?

 

[theoak01]

thats cool,I figured they were all differnt,I just didnt know who was from where or who was bigger or smaller,but now I know western africans are bigger and eastern tend to be smaller,or atleast it seems.

I think its pretty cool either way how people within close ranges are built different etc,Ive been watching a show called "going tribal", and the different ways these people live and such is pretty cool

 

[nycgirl]

thats cool,I figured they were all differnt,I just didnt know who was from where or who was bigger or smaller,but now I know western africans are bigger and eastern tend to be smaller,or atleast it seems.
I think its pretty cool either way how people within close ranges are built different etc,Ive been watching a show called "going tribal", and the different ways these people live and such is pretty cool

Yes, I didn't know this myself until college. Many people don't know this. Its weird when you have "African-Americans" questioning your heritage (and whether or not I'm a American Citizen ) and you are the same shade of brown as them. Most African-Americans have Western African features. I have Eastern African/Arabic features.

I think its cool too. What channel does that show come on?

 

[theoak01]

discovery channel on tue nights at 10 or 11 est I believe,its really cool,they were showing a tribe from eastern africa last week,showing how modern weapons made their way into their society,but their enemy got them first and massacered them before they got weapons aswell. pretty crazy how the wars in sudan are effecting smaller tribes way of life.

 

[Dial_tone]

nah, it's a product of being poor.....a lot of time sports are the only way out of the ghetto...same applied to Irish boxers back in the day, etc etc

cha-ching!

 

[jnevin]

I need a bottle of anything.... and a glazed donut.... to go!

 

[Lestat]

nah, it's a product of being poor.....a lot of time sports are the only way out of the ghetto...same applied to Irish boxers back in the day, etc etc

I don't buy that for one minute, there are PLENTY of poor people from all races, it does not explain the disproportionate amount of African AMericans in sports.

Where are the mexicans in the NBA and NFL? How about the poor white trash?

 

[Gambino]

thanks for that..

i just remember seeing in schindlers list they kept skilled workers and professionals and stuff.. people to help them with their army and everything.. but maybe its not true?

to a small degree, but that was an exception. btw i've always been skeptical of mr.schindler's heroics...

 

[Lestat]

to a small degree, but that was an exception. btw i've always been skeptical of mr.schindler's heroics...

racist.

j/k

 

[redguru]

to a small degree, but that was an exception. btw i've always been skeptical of mr.schindler's heroics...

Schindler was self-serving. That the Jews working for him benefited was a side effect.

 

[Gambino]

Schindler was self-serving. That the Jews working for him benefited was a side effect.

Exactly. sure he felt sympathy and compassion but that did not stop him from running a bussiness free of labor cost. Imagine the profit when your workers get $00

 

[Mr. dB]

During the holocaust, millions were killed. Hitler and his regime spared those that had desireable skills... engineers, doctors, etc. I will assume that these people were of above average intelligence. The ones that were not professionals, were killed. I believe that base intelligence, IQ if you will, is partly genetically determined. I am also assuming that education is generally correlated with intelligence.. this is not always the case, but it is generally true. So the jews with lower intelligence were all killed off, the ones with above average intelligence were saved... leaving you with another super race of people. Jews don't dominate sports in the US, instead they dominate other professionas.. mainly the music and movie industries.. highly profitable industries that you have to be smart to be a leader in.. there are a lot of lawyers, doctors, excutives all of jewish decent.. a disproportionate percentage compared to their percentage of the general population.

Jews were already active in those fields before WWII, Jewish business success was one of the reasons why they were resented and persecuted by the Germans. The Jewish culture has valued education for a very, very long time.

Besides, while the numbers of murdered Jews during the Holocaust are shocking, what percentage of the world's total Jewish population did they represent? Would the Holocaust really show up as a bottleneck in the population statistics for Jews?

 

[Lestat]

Jews were already active in those fields before WWII, Jewish business success was one of the reasons why they were resented and persecuted by the Germans. The Jewish culture has valued education for a very, very long time.

Besides, while the numbers of murdered Jews during the Holocaust are shocking, what percentage of the world's total Jewish population did they represent? Would the Holocaust really show up as a bottleneck in the population statistics for Jews?

the ones that escape there or made it out alive immigrated to the US where the assumed their dominance in a variety of fields...

 

[hamstershaver]

blacks are better atheltes period
sprinting, long distance running, basketball, football, they do things whites cant do, thats not racism, thats the facts
genes are genes you cant argue it, if you do you are ignorant
blacks are much more prone to glaucoma, hypertension and diabetes. why? because its in their genes

 

[eat big]

Schindler was self-serving. That the Jews working for him benefited was a side effect.

My current history Prof. wrote a novel on Schindler and discovered Schindler himself did not make the list. Some Jews bribed officials to get on the list.

This is the book he wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/081333375X/102-1382007-7390520?v=glance

http://org.elon.edu/history/crowe.html

That is his website.

 

[redguru]

though i do not agree that jews are any smarter than anyone else, i agree that they control alot and wield alot of power. There are not many Jews in the world at all...yet they control a great deal of power in the world. For example, they control the American media (which many people do not know/realize). And yes, many are doctors, engineers, etc. as well.

i forget the exact statistic but there are only what 16 million jews worldwide? 16 MILLION...and they control so much over our world which has a population of 6,446,131,400.

Do you have some information backing that statement up? What is "the Jews"? Is it a clique? Is there some secret handshake that those Jews who control everything have? That post looks like it came from a David Duke manifesto.

 

[eat big]

Exactly. sure he felt sympathy and compassion but that did not stop him from running a bussiness free of labor cost. Imagine the profit when your workers get $00

He paid the wages to the Nazi's.

-Edit-

He saved so much money because they were cheaper than Poles.

 

[Gambino]

He paid the wages to the Nazi's.

-Edit-

He saved so much money because they were cheaper than Poles.

lol cheaper than poles? you do realize that polish labor was free, they were slaves...

 

[nycgirl]

blacks are better atheltes period
sprinting, long distance running, basketball, football, they do things whites cant do, thats not racism, thats the facts
genes are genes you cant argue it, if you do you are ignorant
blacks are much more prone to glaucoma, hypertension and diabetes. why? because its in their genes

I agree. I just wanted to provide a little more background (re: geography, slave trade, etc.).

We are also very lactose intolerant.

 

[eat big]

lol cheaper than poles? you do realize that polish labor was free, they were slaves...

To pay the price to the Nazi's... I do believe not sure.

 

[Lestat]

blacks are better atheltes period
sprinting, long distance running, basketball, football, they do things whites cant do, thats not racism, thats the facts
genes are genes you cant argue it, if you do you are ignorant
blacks are much more prone to glaucoma, hypertension and diabetes. why? because its in their genes

that is ignorant.

Why don't we just go recruit over in African to get these "blacks" to play every sports?

Fact is, its American born "blacks" that are the superior athletes... and yes, its genes.. but WHY.. because we weak ones never made it here.

think before you post.

 

[redguru]

that is ignorant.

Why don't we just go recruit over in African to get these "blacks" to play every sports?

Fact is, its American born "blacks" that are the superior athletes... and yes, its genes.. but WHY.. because we weak ones never made it here.

think before you post.

I doubt the weak ones didn't make it here because the stronger were selected back in Africa. Most of the weaker ones probably died in the atrocious habitat of a slave ship.

 

[hamstershaver]

that is ignorant.

Why don't we just go recruit over in African to get these "blacks" to play every sports?

Fact is, its American born "blacks" that are the superior athletes... and yes, its genes.. but WHY.. because we weak ones never made it here.

think before you post.

the superior long distance runners are all from kenya, thats in africa
if the blacks in africa had the same opportunities to train in specific sports like fb, and basketball, as african americans im sure they would make a big impact on american sports

 

[Gambino]

To pay the price to the Nazi's... I do believe not sure.

understand now.

 

[nycgirl]

I doubt the weak ones didn't make it here because the stronger were selected back in Africa. Most of the weaker ones probably died in the atrocious habitat of a slave ship.

I was just about to post that.

Kenyans make better long distance runners. But African-Americans make better sprinters (please see my post re: origins of slave trade). Again, people are generalizing.

 

[Lestat]

the superior long distance runners are all from kenya, thats in africa
if the blacks in africa had the same opportunities to train in specific sports like fb, and basketball, as african americans im sure they would make a big impact on american sports

they have tried that... hakeem... mutumbo.. it works in some cases, but very rarely.

The long distance runners are a diffrent tribe of africans.. long muscle fibers.. slow twitch.. not much mass.. not many of them were brought over to the US as slaves because 1) they wouldn't survive 2) they weren't as strong

 

[eat big]

Watch Roots. Good series. OJ is in it too with Lavar Burton from 'A Reading Rainbow'.

It said in the extras that Lavar could outrun OJ in one scene in Africa. OJ was older too....

 

[nycgirl]

they have tried that... hakeem... mutumbo.. it works in some cases, but very rarely.

The long distance runners are a diffrent tribe of africans.. long muscle fibers.. slow twitch.. not much mass.. not many of them were brought over to the US as slaves because 1) they wouldn't survive 2) they weren't as strong

LOL @ the ignorance floating from many in this thread.

It has more to do with location. Again, most of the slaves came from West Africa. If you look at a map, the West Coast of Africa is closer to Europe and the U.S. than to Kenya. Ever heard of the Slave Trade Triangle???

 

[eat big]

LOL @ the ignorance floating from many in this thread.

It has more to do with location. Again, most of the slaves came from West Africa. If you look at a map, the West Coast of Africa is closer to Europe and the U.S. than to Kenya. Ever heard of the Slave Trade Triangle???

Yes. West Africa to US to Europe to Africa right?

 

[nycgirl]

Yes. West Africa to US to Europe to Africa right?

Exactly.

 

[beefcake28]

i heard jews arnt even real because if evolution occured then where would the jewdaism evolve from.

it has to be intelligent design, because this way god would have had to plan for jews to become born, but if it was really intelligent then he wouldnt have made jews in the first place.

its all confusing

Einstein was jewish... try using his lack of intelligence with your "but if it was really intelligent then he wouldnt have made jews in the first place." theory...

 

[Dial_tone]

I doubt the weak ones didn't make it here because the stronger were selected back in Africa. Most of the weaker ones probably died in the atrocious habitat of a slave ship.

Spending 6-8 weeks in a barely ventilated room laying in the puke and feces of 200 of your closest seasick & starving friends will do that to you.

 

[nycgirl]

Einstein was jewish... try using his lack of intelligence with your "but if it was really intelligent then he wouldnt have made jews in the first place." theory...

It took me until the 60th post to realize that this thread was not intended for intelligent/controversial discourse at all.

 

[Lestat]

I doubt the weak ones didn't make it here because the stronger were selected back in Africa. Most of the weaker ones probably died in the atrocious habitat of a slave ship.

agree 100% that was part of the unnatural selection. Only the most physically strong made it.

 

[samoth]

This topic has always been useful see what level of education a person has.

Good thing whites are smarter period
mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, they do things blacks
cant do, thats not racism, thats the facts
genes are genes you cant argue it, if you do you are ignorant

Not that it matters anyway, the more americans bicker over percieved innate differences, the quicker the asians will take over the world and enslave us all. If there's ever been a superior race, you damned well better believe it's the asians. Their genes are so superior that in the next fifty or so years, they won't even be classified as the same unprestigious race that us low-life blacks and whites belong to.

HTH

 

[Lestat]

This topic has always been useful see what level of education a person has.

Good thing whites are smarter period
mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, they do things blacks
cant do, thats not racism, thats the facts
genes are genes you cant argue it, if you do you are ignorant

Not that it matters anyway, the more americans bicker over percieved innate differences, the quicker the asians will take over the world and enslave us all. If there's ever been a superior race, you damned well better believe it's the asians. Their genes are so superior that in the next fifty or so years, they won't even be classified as the same unprestigious race that us low-life blacks and whites belong to.

HTH

I think you miss my point.

There are no innate differences between the races. Blacks aren't more gifted athletically because they are black, whites aren't smarter innately.. fuck that, that is just pure racism.

If you took 1000 people of any race, ANY fucking race, and you killed off the weakest physically and only allowed the strongest to breed, and then killed off the weakest again.. what would you end up with? a population that was STRONGER then average no the whole. That was the original point.

 

[samoth]

It took me until the 60th post to realize that this thread was not intended for intelligent/controversial discourse at all.

I realized that the second I read the subject for debate.

 

[redguru]

This topic has always been useful see what level of education a person has.

Good thing whites are smarter period
mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, they do things blacks
cant do, thats not racism, thats the facts
genes are genes you cant argue it, if you do you are ignorant

Not that it matters anyway, the more americans bicker over percieved innate differences, the quicker the asians will take over the world and enslave us all. If there's ever been a superior race, you damned well better believe it's the asians. Their genes are so superior that in the next fifty or so years, they won't even be classified as the same unprestigious race that us low-life blacks and whites belong to.

HTH

Quick threadjack

Did you see what the NASA administrator said about the International Space Station and the Shuttle programs? I'm beginning to think he's going to clean house over there. He basically said that NASA has screwed the pooch for the last three decades and needs to return to Apollo-style missions.

 

[Lestat]

I realized that the second I read the subject for debate.

I can see how its easy for this thing to degrade into that.

I guess the real question I am trying to INTELLIGENTLY answer is, why do you see a disproportionate number of African Americans that excel in athletic sporting events.

I can tell you why there are a disproportionate number of WHITE MALES on the board of directors of almost every fortune 500 company. It has to do with sexism and racism.. no so much today, but it was the foundation that this shit was built off of. I'm not afraid to admit that. Racism is wrong, and its a shame that you see that type of dichotomy at the top, but reality is reality, and to change it you must understand it.

 

[Sub-Zero]

try 5-6x you horny liar.

...

 

[nycgirl]

This topic has always been useful see what level of education a person has.
HTH

Isn't that the case for most of the threads?? As I told another member, posting in C&C to me was like the 2004 election to the rest of world. I'm still dumbfounded by many of things I read on this board.

That said, Lestat, there are differences between the races. Anyone that thinks differently is wrong.

W/ regard to physical differences the black race is different from the white race. For example, we store fat differently than white people. We are more susceptible to certain diseases than white people.

W/ regard to intelligence, I disagree. My ex bf, who is white, is brilliant when it comes to mechanical engineering and stats. However, I'm more of an analytical thinker. Oh, and I tutored him in Economics and Finance.

 

[hamstershaver]

This topic has always been useful see what level of education a person has.

Good thing whites are smarter period
mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, they do things blacks
cant do, thats not racism, thats the facts
genes are genes you cant argue it, if you do you are ignorant

Not that it matters anyway, the more americans bicker over percieved innate differences, the quicker the asians will take over the world and enslave us all. If there's ever been a superior race, you damned well better believe it's the asians. Their genes are so superior that in the next fifty or so years, they won't even be classified as the same unprestigious race that us low-life blacks and whites belong to.

HTH

since you took my post and put in the part about whites being smarter than blacks, which i dont think is true at all, i assume you disagree with me saying that blacks are better athletes than whites
is that a safe assumption?

 

[Lestat]

Isn't that the case for most of the threads?? As I told another member, posting in C&C to me was like the 2004 election to the rest of world. I'm still dumbfounded by many of things I read on this board.

That said, Lestat, there are differences between the races. Anyone that thinks different is wrong.

W/ regard to physical differences the black race is different from the white race. For example, we store fat differently than a white people. We are more susceptible to certain diseases than white people.

ok so where do you draw the line then?

 

[UA_Iron]

I think the jews that survived were mainly the ones that whined their way out of being killed hence the traits of the current US jewish population.

jk of course.

I do believe the slave trade has had an impact on African-Americans vs. Africans. A product of being poor needs more support... because I believe the majority of people living in poverty are white.

 

[nycgirl]

I realized that the second I read the subject for debate.

You've been here longer. I'm still naive and have hope.

 

[Lestat]

You've been here longer. I'm still naive and have hope.

it wasn't my intention to make a mockery of things with this thread...

 

[samoth]

I think you miss my point.

There are no innate differences between the races. Blacks aren't more gifted athletically because they are black, whites aren't smarter innately.. fuck that, that is just pure racism.

If you took 1000 people of any race, ANY fucking race, and you killed off the weakest physically and only allowed the strongest to breed, and then killed off the weakest again.. what would you end up with? a population that was STRONGER then average no the whole. That was the original point.

1) I wasn't reading closely enough to differentiate what point belonged to who. But I was mocking Hammy with the second paragraph.

2) There do exist some biological differences between races. Something so generalized as "stronger/faster/otherverb" given by simple reasoning like "all the not stronger/faster/otherverb ceased to exist during some minute time in history" isn't going to be very high up on the list of biological differences, despite the convincing logic from which it was derived.

3) Tell a biologist that. I have a hunch that he would politely inform you that there are quite a few variables involved, and that things aren't as easy as they might seem on the surface.

 

[nycgirl]

1) I wasn't reading closely enough to differentiate what point belonged to who. But I was mocking Hammy with the second paragraph.
2) There do exist some biological differences between races. Something so generalized as "stronger/faster/otherverb" given by simple reasoning like "all the not stronger/faster/otherverb ceased to exist during some minute time in history" isn't going to be very high up on the list of biological differences, despite the convincing logic from which it was derived.
3) Tell a biologist that. I have a hunch that he would politely inform you that there are quite a few variables involved, and that things aren't as easy as they might seem on the surface.

Agreed.

 

[Lestat]

Agreed.

ok i didn't mean to be a dick or anything.. just lock this shit up.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

So... this is not meant to just stir shit up, its meant to spark some intelligent and debate.

I have long believed that the African slave trade in the earliest days of America created an unnatural selection resulting in a "super race." If you haven't noticed, most professional athletic leagues are dominated by African Americans. Even sports that previous did not have any African Americans in, now are seeing them rise to the to (e.g. tennis, golf).

When Africans were first brought here as slaves, it was a dangerous and trecherous journey. The WEAK often died on the ships coming over. Also, the biggest and strongest males were most sought after because of the manual labor they could do on southern plantations. These two factors basically ensured that the African Americans that made it to the US, were of superior physical stature and condition. They had the genes to make them more resilient, stronger, etc. If you want more proof, look at the fact that NBA and NFL players are largely Africans from American decent, not straight from africa, where the population is not as physically adept as the Africans here. I've heard many people agree, that in many ways this is likely true. This doesn't mean that EVERY African American is big and strong and going to be a super star athelete, it just means that in any given population, there is a high percentage these traits. African Americans are a MINORITY of the general population, but a OVERWHELMING majority in the professional sports world.

I'd also like to propose another theory of unnatural selection. This one involves Jews.

During the holocaust, millions were killed. Hitler and his regime spared those that had desireable skills... engineers, doctors, etc. I will assume that these people were of above average intelligence. The ones that were not professionals, were killed. I believe that base intelligence, IQ if you will, is partly genetically determined. I am also assuming that education is generally correlated with intelligence.. this is not always the case, but it is generally true. So the jews with lower intelligence were all killed off, the ones with above average intelligence were saved... leaving you with another super race of people. Jews don't dominate sports in the US, instead they dominate other professionas.. mainly the music and movie industries.. highly profitable industries that you have to be smart to be a leader in.. there are a lot of lawyers, doctors, excutives all of jewish decent.. a disproportionate percentage compared to their percentage of the general population.

Discuss.

These are actually pretty good theories Lestat. I wouldn't be suprised if there was at least some truth to them.

 

[Lestat]

These are actually pretty good theories Lestat. I wouldn't be suprised if there was at least some truth to them.

I'm sure there is, it just gets political when you start to discuss such a charged subject.. as you can see in this thread.

 

[nycgirl]

ok i didn't mean to be a dick or anything.. just lock this shit up.

Never said you were a dick. This thread shouldn't be locked.

If people are going to choose to have discussions about race, sex, income levels, and other issues, they should have more to say than just generalizations.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

This thread does pack a punch of platinum proportions.

 

[HiDnGoD]

I don't buy that for one minute, there are PLENTY of poor people from all races, it does not explain the disproportionate amount of African AMericans in sports.
Where are the mexicans in the NBA and NFL? How about the poor white trash?

Maybe it's because the black youth SEE it as a way out, focus, & prevail.

 

[Lestat]

Maybe it's because the black youth SEE it as a way out, focus, & prevail.

wny people of other races don't? seems unlikely.

 

[samoth]

they should have more to say than just generalizations.

This is why this subject never gets very far. This really isn't simple subject matter or area of study for one who wants to argue a side or seek a difinitive answer. It looks simple and everything, but it's far from. The conclusions I commonly see people draw and the social/enviromental biases I see permeating everywhere always seems to lend to a self-defeating discussion with a frustrated base fixated with ineluctability.

 

[nutsnack]

how do i get the cliff notes to this thread?

how do i get the cliff notes to this thread?

 

[hamstershaver]

This is why this subject never gets very far. This really isn't simple subject matter or area of study for one who wants to argue a side or seek a difinitive answer. It looks simple and everything, but it's far from. The conclusions I commonly see people draw and the social/enviromental biases I see permeating everywhere always seems to lend to a self-defeating discussion with a frustrated base fixated with ineluctability.

then what is your theory as to why blacks dominate sports like sprinting, long distance running, basketball, and the skill positions of football (rb and wide receiver) do you think thats just a coincedence?
a group of people that make up the minority of the population making up by far the majority of the sport superstars in the examples im giving you

 

[needtogetaas]

then what is your theory as to why blacks dominate sports like sprinting, long distance running, basketball, and the skill positions of football (rb and wide receiver) do you think thats just a coincedence?
a group of people that make up the minority of the population making up by far the majority of the sport superstars in the examples im giving you

hocky,rugby,soccer,bassball,bodybilding,power lifting,all sports where the magority is whight,and all sports that take some sort,of,speed,power,inderance,balance.there are many sport out there that take these things were whight people or the magority.

 

[Smurfy]

nah, it's a product of being poor.....a lot of time sports are the only way out of the ghetto...same applied to Irish boxers back in the day, etc etc

The big black mandingos were sought after, no doubt, but that's not the ONLY type of black that was imported.

Even among blacks professional athlete talent is 1/hundreds of thousands.

I agree that is has more to do with economic status than race.

 

[hamstershaver]

The big black mandingos were sought after, no doubt, but that's not the ONLY type of black that was imported.

Even among blacks professional athlete talent is 1/hundreds of thousands.

I agree that is has more to do with economic status than race.

so if poor whites applied themselves as much as poor blacks in athletics then they would excel just as much?

 

[1_more_rep]

Do you have some information backing that statement up? What is "the Jews"? Is it a clique? Is there some secret handshake that those Jews who control everything have? That post looks like it came from a David Duke manifesto.

Not counting certain specialized cable news systems, virtually all national and international TV news broadcast in the United States is gathered, filmed, edited, and put on the air by just three companies: American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Most televised entertainment programs viewed by Americans are broadcast by the same three networks. Each of these three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long enough period of time -- ranging from 32 years to 55 years -- for him to staff the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and thus to place his imprint finally, totally, and indelibly upon it.

In each case that man has been a Jew.

Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities Communications, Inc., a New York-based media conglomerate, the chairman of the board of directors and chief executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a Jew. He had headed the network since he became president of the predecessor corporation, American Broadcasting-Paramount Theaters, Inc., in 1953. (The name was changed to American Broadcasting Companies, Inc., in 1965.) In an interview published in the April 1, 1985, issue of Newsweek, Goldenson boasted, "I built this company [ABC] from scratch."

Under the 1985 merger terms, Goldenson became chairman of the executive committee of the new company, Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.

Although the chairman and CEO of Capital Cities now is Thomas Murphy, a Gentile, he has made no move to replace the men at ABC who served Goldenson, and the network retains its Jewish character today.

CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia, Paley left the family cigar business in 1928, when he was 27, to buy United Independent Broadcasters for $500,000. He renamed it Columbia Broadcasting System and made himself president. He became chairman of the board in 1946 and held that post until his partial retirement in 1983.

When independent broadcaster Ted Turner, a Gentile, made a bid to buy CBS in 1985, there was panic in media boardrooms across the nation. Turner had made a fortune in advertising and then had built a successful cable-TV news network, CNN. Although Turner employed a number of Jews in key executive positions in CNN and had never taken public positions contrary to Jewish interests, he is a man with a large ego and a strong personality and was regarded by Paley and the other Jews at CBS as uncontrollable: a loose cannon who might at some time in the future turn against them. Furthermore, Jewish newsman Daniel Schorr, who had worked for Turner, publicly charged that his former boss held a personal dislike for Jews.

To block Turner's bid CBS executives invited billionaire Jewish theater, hotel, insurance, and cigarette magnate Laurence Tisch to launch a "friendly" takeover of the company, and since 1986 Tisch has been the chairman and CEO of CBS, removing any threat of non-Jewish influence there.

NBC was formerly a subsidiary of Radio Corporation of America (RCA), which was controlled for 40 years, beginning in 1930, by David Sarnoff, another Jewish immigrant from Russia. When Sarnoff died in 1970 his son Robert took over. In 1986 General Electric Co. merged with RCA, and now NBC is a wholly owned subsidiary of General Electric.

There has been no move by top G-E management to change the Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personnel. To the contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: examples are Steve Friedman, hired in May 1990 as executive producer of NBC Nightly News and succeeded in January 1993 by Jeff Zuker.

also, just look at networks like nickelodeon and disney. Don't tell me for one second they are NOT run by jews. They have so many hannukah (sp dont know) and passover episodes yet do they show you buddhist holiday episodes? (no) do they show Muslim holidays? (no)

so basically the jews are able to control what is portrayed through the American media from an American's birth-->death pretty much. (yes, this is a bold statement and maybe not 100% true but close) Kids...growing up, watch nick Jr, then nickelodeon then they upgrade to DISNEY. All of these have jewish traditions and jewish families on EVERY show, etc. Then, when you get old enough to care about/watch news, all of the NEWS stations are ALSO owned by jews - many stories of Jewish sympathy are sent through TV broadcasting. example: "2 Jewish men die over a controversy in Jerusalem - they leave behind families, bright futures", etc. (while not caring to tell about the maybe 12 or so Palestinians that died in the same conflict...).

sure guru you may find something to counter my points i have brought up but this is sufficient evidence that the jews run everything broadcasted and that is why America aids Israel so damn much...because little Israel is able to manipulate the United States into working for it... sad thing even though its true

 

[beefcake28]

It took me until the 60th post to realize that this thread was not intended for intelligent/controversial discourse at all.

I realized this right away, I just thought I would throw this out for the hell of it... To fit in with all of the other "intelligent comments" in this thread. Thanks for taking me seriously though...

 

[anthrax]

It's uber BS

Take an African athlete and give him a proper training, good diet and gear and he'll be just as good as any Black American

as for the Jews they were in the financial and media sectors well before WWII (re-read your history book bro)

 

[hamstershaver]

It's uber BS

Take an African athlete and give him a proper training, good diet and gear and he'll be just as good as any Black American

as for the Jews they were in the financial and media sectors well before WWII (re-read your history book bro)

now go a little further antrax
take an above average black sprinter and an above average white sprinter, give both of them the same training, diet and gear and who do you think will be the better sprinter when all is said and done
why are the best sprinters black? why do they hold the world record times in the 100?
why is at least 90% of the starters in the nba black?
why is 95% of the starting rbs and wide recievers in the nfl black?
is it because they try harder than whites? or is it because genetically they are better athletes?

 

[redguru]

plagiaristic post edited

Your post was a word for word excerpt from Who Rules America

Who Rules America?, subtitled "Multi-national global corporations and businesses have no loyalty to any people or country, only money and power - The Alien Grip on Our News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken", written by the Research Staff of National Vanguard Magazine, PO Box 330, Hillsboro, West Virginia 24946 USA.

National Vanguard Magazine was founded by William Pierce, a reknowned anti-semite who worked with the American Nazi Party. In 1970 he left the National Socialist White People's Party.

He has promoted an idea he called "cosmotheism", a religion that stresses the supremacy of the white race.

 

[1_more_rep]

Your post was a word for word excerpt from Who Rules America

Who Rules America?, subtitled "Multi-national global corporations and businesses have no loyalty to any people or country, only money and power - The Alien Grip on Our News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken", written by the Research Staff of National Vanguard Magazine, PO Box 330, Hillsboro, West Virginia 24946 USA.

National Vanguard Magazine was founded by William Pierce, a reknowned anti-semite who worked with the American Nazi Party. In 1970 he left the National Socialist White People's Party.

He has promoted an idea he called "cosmotheism", a religion that stresses the supremacy of the white race.

just this part about facts was from the site (and it was from another site but its on that site u linked too): Not counting certain specialized cable news systems, virtually all national and international TV news broadcast in the United States is gathered, filmed, edited, and put on the air by just three companies: American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Most televised entertainment programs viewed by Americans are broadcast by the same three networks. Each of these three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long enough period of time -- ranging from 32 years to 55 years -- for him to staff the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and thus to place his imprint finally, totally, and indelibly upon it.

In each case that man has been a Jew.

Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities Communications, Inc., a New York-based media conglomerate, the chairman of the board of directors and chief executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a Jew. He had headed the network since he became president of the predecessor corporation, American Broadcasting-Paramount Theaters, Inc., in 1953. (The name was changed to American Broadcasting Companies, Inc., in 1965.) In an interview published in the April 1, 1985, issue of Newsweek, Goldenson boasted, "I built this company [ABC] from scratch."

Under the 1985 merger terms, Goldenson became chairman of the executive committee of the new company, Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.

Although the chairman and CEO of Capital Cities now is Thomas Murphy, a Gentile, he has made no move to replace the men at ABC who served Goldenson, and the network retains its Jewish character today.

CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia, Paley left the family cigar business in 1928, when he was 27, to buy United Independent Broadcasters for $500,000. He renamed it Columbia Broadcasting System and made himself president. He became chairman of the board in 1946 and held that post until his partial retirement in 1983.

When independent broadcaster Ted Turner, a Gentile, made a bid to buy CBS in 1985, there was panic in media boardrooms across the nation. Turner had made a fortune in advertising and then had built a successful cable-TV news network, CNN. Although Turner employed a number of Jews in key executive positions in CNN and had never taken public positions contrary to Jewish interests, he is a man with a large ego and a strong personality and was regarded by Paley and the other Jews at CBS as uncontrollable: a loose cannon who might at some time in the future turn against them. Furthermore, Jewish newsman Daniel Schorr, who had worked for Turner, publicly charged that his former boss held a personal dislike for Jews.

To block Turner's bid CBS executives invited billionaire Jewish theater, hotel, insurance, and cigarette magnate Laurence Tisch to launch a "friendly" takeover of the company, and since 1986 Tisch has been the chairman and CEO of CBS, removing any threat of non-Jewish influence there.

NBC was formerly a subsidiary of Radio Corporation of America (RCA), which was controlled for 40 years, beginning in 1930, by David Sarnoff, another Jewish immigrant from Russia. When Sarnoff died in 1970 his son Robert took over. In 1986 General Electric Co. merged with RCA, and now NBC is a wholly owned subsidiary of General Electric.

There has been no move by top G-E management to change the Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personnel. To the contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: examples are Steve Friedman, hired in May 1990 as executive producer of NBC Nightly News and succeeded in January 1993 by Jeff Zuker.

facts are facts bro...even if this paper was started by a Nazi, he didn't MAKE UP these people out of thin air and they DID work when stated and it is obvious the jews control the media. Are you not used to reading an article not spinned in the Jews' favor - is it uncomfortable for you because you have been raised on it since birth? its ok i do not blame you...i blame the system bro. It's a sad thing though, so sad.

 

[redguru]

Also, 1_more_rep, the man whose drivel you are taking as gospel also wrote the Turner Diaries under the pseudonym Andrew MacDonald. I hope you are up on recent Oklahoma history to find another man who took that book seriously.

 

[BrothaBill]

blacks are better atheltes period
sprinting, long distance running, basketball, football, they do things whites cant do, thats not racism, thats the facts
genes are genes you cant argue it, if you do you are ignorant
blacks are much more prone to glaucoma, hypertension and diabetes. why? because its in their genes

Where does this argument lead, they certainly jump better b/c of the way the ankle and achilles tendon is attached. They were made for running away from lions and catching game, they were tribal with tribal mentality, fighting each others tribes for women and territory. The truth is, is that the largest slaveowners in history were other africans and they were the ones that sold captured tribal enemies to the slave traders. This tribalism that must be genetic be the reason for the gang violence culture so predominant in the black community, is this genetic environment the reason for such a staggering percentage of black on black crime?
White people moved into harsher environments, had to become more resourceful and smarter and work together as a community in order to survive in the cold and snow, is that why the average IQ of a white person is 20 points higher than a black person even when socioe
conomic status is controlled for statistically? Why do poorer white children score better on tests than blacks from middle income richer families? Is this a genetic issue of inferiority of the darker skinned races, that they lived in less harsh, sunny climates and didnt evolve their brain to socialize and problem solve??
Lestat is a racist, no doubt about it, cleverly written for plausible deniability but he sees a person and sees the color of their skin, so does everyone else, they make assumptions of them based on what they look like. Anybody been called a cracker, a derogatory slander from black people, white people are this, white people are that, watch defcomedy jam or BET comedy and the majority of the jokes are making fun of white people b/c of the color of their skin. Hardly what Martin Luther King's dream would exemplify, I have a dream, where a man is judged not by the color of his skin but by.....

These issues and stereotypes need to be addressed, the whole problem as I see is this country had slavery a long time ago and now blacks are not the number one minority, latinos are and they succeed far better b/c they dont have this history of slavery.
And the "Blacks are better in sports b/c thats the way we bred them" argument is still racist, beyond racist, thats what white supremacists say Lestat.
All of this, is why race relations make the US suck
These arguments lead to real problems in a society that is a melting pot?

 

[anthrax]

It's uber BS

Take an African athlete and give him a proper training, good diet and gear and he'll be just as good as any Black American

as for the Jews they were in the financial and media sectors well before WWII (re-read your history book bro)

now go a little further antrax
take an above average black sprinter and an above average white sprinter, give both of them the same training, diet and gear and who do you think will be the better sprinter when all is said and done
why are the best sprinters black? why do they hold the world record times in the 100?
why is at least 90% of the starters in the nba black?
why is 95% of the starting rbs and wide recievers in the nfl black?
is it because they try harder than whites? or is it because genetically they are better athletes?

I agree that Blacks are gifted when it comes to many sports

My point was that linking Blak superiority to slavery in the US is crap