So you wanna get controversial? lets do it intelligently.

[EnderJE]

the builds on those 2 are incredible, all muscle, they can hit a tennis ball with a force thats never been seen before on the womens circuit, both of them are incredibly talented and its a shame they have endured injuries that have hampered their careers

People were saying the same about Graff and Seles when they were at the top.

 

[anthrax]

Taking a few persons examples to generalize about a whole race.... come on you're not serious?

 

[EnderJE]

Damn straight, you can't generalize an entire race. Now, WOMEN on the other hand...

 

[nycgirl]

This is why this subject never gets very far. This really isn't simple subject matter or area of study for one who wants to argue a side or seek a difinitive answer. It looks simple and everything, but it's far from. The conclusions I commonly see people draw and the social/enviromental biases I see permeating everywhere always seems to lend to a self-defeating discussion with a frustrated base fixated with ineluctability.

I think it can go far provided people choose to be objective. Coming from a legal background, I can. I guess you are right about people throwing in social/environmental biases (I can see it throughout this thread). It is sad that we cannot have a discussion about something this without someone using terms like Black Mandingo.

 

[Smurfy]

so if poor whites applied themselves as much as poor blacks in athletics then they would excel just as much?

come on dude. we know that all the poor white folks do is sit outside their trailer and smoke meth.

 

[pitbullstl]

Schindler was self-serving. That the Jews working for him benefited was a side effect.

True, and the movie was loosely based on fact.

 

[nycgirl]

Taking a few persons examples to generalize about a whole race.... come on you're not serious?

Yes, they are. Thank god I gave a brief lesson on the slave trade and geography. Otherwise, Africa would still be viewed as a country in this thread.

 

[B0ARDIN087]

thanks for that..

i just remember seeing in schindlers list they kept skilled workers and professionals and stuff.. people to help them with their army and everything.. but maybe its not true?

even if its not true, the more skilled ones were powerful enough to get out of germany with the power/influence they had...... at least more of them then the average poor jew

 

[hamstershaver]

People were saying the same about Graff and Seles when they were at the top.

agreed graff and seles were very powerful, as was navaratalova but the williams sisters are more powerful
im not saying power wins in tennis, sure there is a lot of finesse and skill involved too but power is a definate advantage in tennis as it is in golf, but without the skill to use the power effectively it would be useless

 

[EnderJE]

I think it can go far provided people choose to be objective. Coming from a legal background, I can. I guess you are right about the people throwing in social/environmental biases (I can see it throughout this thread). It is sad that we cannot have a discussion about something this without someone using terms like Black Mandingo.

Yeah?! My dad can beat up your dad.