just to let you guys know, I psoted to see your reactions, and that poic obviously that guy juiced. but as far as men's health look not all this guys are skinny i'm sure soem used a cyle or two b/c most of them are real thick and ripped but not all fat lookign like some here not meaning fat but you look it b/c its all dense muscle and not defintion to it but i'll find a pic for you to see what i mean as far as winny don't knock it its better then dbol for me atleast