roids is roids

[FlexManning]

Christ you try to make a positive statement like don't worry so much about getting
the "ultimate stack" 'cause you'll grow anyway if you're training and eating right with
good anabolics and you get flamed. You should know that many people more knowledgeable
than 99 percent of the people on here have made the same types of statements, people
like William Llewelyn who wrote Anabolics 2000, and people on the Anabolicextreme website.
To the people who suggest that I haven't read up enough on stacking I suggest that YOU
haven't as you seem to be promoting advice that would be given to a mid-level
1980's competitor. As I said, Duchaine recommended d-bol and deca for beginners
but I know, I know, everybody who flamed me is much more knowledgeable than
the most famous steroid guru who ever lived. I too, think those types of stacks are
best for beginners. Or, whatever you can get ahold of within reason, you will still
grow. Maybe you're screwing some lady vetrinarian and you can get EQ. Whatever.
I strongly suggest though that everybody start checking out the very latest statements
from those in the know. Did you know that several magazines have weekly question
and answer segments with steroid authorities? How about visiting www.Anabolicextreme.com[url] Differ... difference between 50mg dbol and 100mg A-50.

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

roids is roids, sorry don't agree, especially with some of those companys out there

 

[FlexManning]

Let me spell it out for you with a hypothetical example:

Joe Schmoe spends less than 1000 bucks and comes up with
this cycle:
200 dbol
2000 mg deca
2000 mg test
and spreads it out over whatever length of time.

Jimmy Bob spends 5000 plus because he researched this
message board and he uses drugs like Winnie, Anavar, Primo, GH, etc.

Who will be happier with their gains?
Will Joe Schmoe's cycle cause major side effects? I doubt it. I don't have
time to explain it here but Set Point Theory says water weight gain can be
good for lasting gains if applied properly.
Why did Jimmy Bob spend all that money for mild to moderate gains
when he could have put a down payment on a Corvette?

 

[VTAT]

My best cycle ever for me involved no less than changing the drugs and drug combinations 8 times (that does not include changing dosages, adding clomid, HCG, and clen mid-cycle) in a 10 week period. And everything went perfectly for me. I made the particular cycle up myself, but most of it was based on reading what others have done, which triggered ideas for me for that cycle. I also get ideas on what to avoid. Plus, I work behind a desk and get bored occasionally. So I go to this site and like to BS with the other juicers. Sometimes its the most useless info. I get the biggest kick out of. I'm not gonna say you don't have a point, but if you don't want to read it, skip it. Personally, I like to read all the smart and dumb advice given on this board.

 

[FlexManning]

I like reading the advice but people are getting their information from
each other on here and it's getting recycled with additional statements tagged
on. It's like a rumor in high school where some girl kisses a guy and
by the time it gets back around to the girl she gave him a blow. Only
the difference is that the first guy who promoted the idea on here gets
his altered info back and recycles it none the wiser, with a little more added on.
People hurt this site when the don't keep their ears open to new information
and adhere only to advice given on here. Nobody ever gives references.
That's my advice for now. There should be an unspoken rule on here
that if you're going to make post after post on here you should at least
occasionally make reference to a source who isn't from this board. Something
like "Hey I was reading in Anabolics 2000....l." or "Remember when Duchaine used to
say...." Just once in awhile, you know. It doesn't have to be formal.

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

my guess would be cause of the post topic

Roids is Roids

 

[FlexManning]

Yeah, that could be it. But it wasn't meant to be a putdown. I just meant that
newer steroid authorities are coming back to the idea that you can grow
just fine on the basics. I read constantly grasping at every article I can get ahold
of. Then I process that information and try to post some of it on here. But
if anybody hears different from some guy with an insanely high number of
posts then you are blackballed immediately.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I think that quoting Dan Duchaine, whom I find to be an interesting and somewhat pioneering figure, to be- in many instances- less than wise.

Lets take into account that Dan Duchaine introduced NUBAIN to the bodybuilding community and that he got calf implants for his girlfriend in MEXICO, which subsequently had to be amputated.

Dan was a Crash and Burn Guru, he made some strides forward but there were costs because he often failed to look before he leaped. Though I found a lot of his work interesting, inspiring even, it should be taken with a grain of salt.

On a lighter note:
Anyone who thinks that it would be difficult to tell the difference between 50mg of Dbol and 100mg Anadrol- really needs to re- think the use of anabolic steroids.

 

[Skudlord]

I am a novice also as you can tell from only 100+ posts and 2 months of being registered with this board. But I have been researching and reading about roids every day for the last 6 months, 30 minutes to 4 hours a day! I have 50 web addy's bookmarked that I constantly refer to. I am just finishing my first cycle, winny and test for 8 weeks. A simple stack for a beginner.

Although I believe simplicity is the best way to begin, "roids are not roids". I plan on using roids for a LONG TIME. I do not compete or care to be huge, I just want to look good. I have chosen to start simple only to keep the cost down and most importantly to know how each roid effects me personally. Roids are different and each one works different for every user. This is what I have learned from this board and others. My suggestion to you is to keep reading and reading and reading, not just from one person but everybody who has used roids, even the dummies. We are all lab rats once we stick the needle in so we all can contribute to the future of roid use. Just a novice's 2 cents

 

[FlexManning]

Let me throw a wild idea at you and see what you think. You could use
A-50 for diets. Sounds crazy right? Why? It's powerful and the nasty effects
will suppress your appetite all the more. I always wondered why people
who couldn't afford so called cutting stacks didn't use so called bulking drugs
for dieting. I mean you'd retain more water of course, but common sense
tells you that you'd retain more mass too. Then I pick up a magazine and
read where William Llewellyn or some guy like that is saying the same thing.
He's saying, the water retention is no big deal if you're not trying to peak for
a 3 hour period like an Olympia competitor, the drugs are cheaper, and
actually more powerful. Keep in mind that many pros use so called "bulking"
drugs until the last possible minute. Then they switch to the lighter stuff.
If you're using anti-estrogens you can do that. Don't you know that pros
often use suspension on diets? And with cytomel, nolvadex, and arimidex they
can use just about anything up until a week or so from the contest.