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rofl.. i got challenged to a fight by a karate black belt

if youre looking to improve strictly ground game, i would recommend bjj or wrestling moreso than any other art mainly because of the sheer emphasis they have on ground work.
 
First off, i think that a challenge is bullshit. The martial arts are about respect, and using your taught abilities in last resort.

Other than that- a tip about karate. Yes, they are quick, sure if they get a hit on you, it'll hurt, but karate deals with very little of close contact, and even grappling. Jiu Jitsu will help you out- take him down, and do your thing.
Also:
Karate vs. Karate also does not permit hitting in the face... Maybe thats how he trained?
 
Yarg! said:
if youre looking to improve strictly ground game, i would recommend bjj or wrestling moreso than any other art mainly because of the sheer emphasis they have on ground work.

IMO it is way more important to find a good instructor w/ a good club

for instance where i live i drive past 2 bjj schools on my way to judo. my instructor has more time on the matt then every student and instructor in both clubs. the instructors have like 3-5 years total BJJ experience where my sensei has 36. now this is a bit strange i know but if you are in my area taking bjj you are paying wayyyyy to much for less instruction.

im not hating on those clubs.. they are cool the guys have fun are getting in great shape and really doing well. also just for the record both schools are not mcdojo's or trying to claim they are world champs..

and sometimes rank/experience of the teacher doesnt mean much. my first bjj instructor was a blue belt with 5 months of bjj.. meanwhile i had 2 years of judo but this guy was a great instructor FOR ME. He covered every little detail of the basics and was really good at pointing out my weak spots and motivating me to blend my judo and bjj.

the style is 'almost' irrelevant. if you are in judo and are being taught a piss poor armbar that is your instructors fault not judo. if you are in bjj and learning piss poor takedowns/throws that is your instructors fault not bjj.

the techniques should be very very similar just sligh variations due to the sport.

again this is just my opinon
 
kimblesaurus said:
wow....i'm trying really hard not to knock your style or technique, but that's a bunch of mumbo-jumbo....try some pressure point crap or pimp slap on me, and you'll get your arm broke. period. no offense, but i just don't understand the practicality of teaching something like that....if you can make sense of it, please do.

Ahh my friend no knocks I am way past the physical part of the art. When one finds the inner strength then he or she will evolve in the arts. I am going to tell you a student that knows pressure points to the highest extent is going to take you out of the game the end sorry.
The white crane technique is awesome very rare to find in the West. Dim Mak and pressure points is not a magic but a science to be taught, learned, and respected much like the proven sciences of our age.

However bodily harm is not what the arts is all about as one person said use the techniques when faced with grave danger. I have seen it done in the Dojo, I have studied the techniques and had them applied with control. They do work and yes death could be swift if carless.

Anyway to each is own in the arts I was just trying to give you a view on another approach that is not seen in the West to much check the link out and open your mind to something new you will be surprised.

http://www.dimmak.net/

Peace
 
araiber said:
First off, i think that a challenge is bullshit. The martial arts are about respect, and using your taught abilities in last resort.

Other than that- a tip about karate. Yes, they are quick, sure if they get a hit on you, it'll hurt, but karate deals with very little of close contact, and even grappling. Jiu Jitsu will help you out- take him down, and do your thing.
Also:
Karate vs. Karate also does not permit hitting in the face... Maybe thats how he trained?

why is a challenge bullshit?
 
Yes, why is it bullshit?

Respect, thats bullshit. You only respect your training, and those who help you. this was a controlled challenge, to compare. I bet it helped each of them to gain more insight into themselves.

Using your abilities as a last resort, well then how do you train? XBOX?
They werent fighting to the death. Ego may have started it, but it was between people who know each other, and did have the respect.

Last time I trained, it was about being the last man standing.
And last time I had to fight outside the controlled environment of tuition, I only had respect for myself, none for the person who didnt respect the warning. I dont train to respect, only to injure.
 
Judo Tom said:
IMO it is way more important to find a good instructor w/ a good club

for instance where i live i drive past 2 bjj schools on my way to judo. my instructor has more time on the matt then every student and instructor in both clubs. the instructors have like 3-5 years total BJJ experience where my sensei has 36. now this is a bit strange i know but if you are in my area taking bjj you are paying wayyyyy to much for less instruction.

im not hating on those clubs.. they are cool the guys have fun are getting in great shape and really doing well. also just for the record both schools are not mcdojo's or trying to claim they are world champs..

and sometimes rank/experience of the teacher doesnt mean much. my first bjj instructor was a blue belt with 5 months of bjj.. meanwhile i had 2 years of judo but this guy was a great instructor FOR ME. He covered every little detail of the basics and was really good at pointing out my weak spots and motivating me to blend my judo and bjj.

the style is 'almost' irrelevant. if you are in judo and are being taught a piss poor armbar that is your instructors fault not judo. if you are in bjj and learning piss poor takedowns/throws that is your instructors fault not bjj.

the techniques should be very very similar just sligh variations due to the sport.

again this is just my opinon


totally agree tom. instructors will ofcourse make or break your abilities. i was just saying that if hes looking for strictly ground work, no other art emphasises ground work more than bjj or submission wrestling since thats basically all they do.
 
Yarg! said:
heres an awesome video concerning the effectiveness of pressure point systems and dim mak- its amazing, you gotta see. like dim mak totally blew my mind cuz it kicks soo much ass.

http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=122

He he, I did not see the ironi in your post at first, so when I watched the video, I was rather surprised. I remember thinking to my self, WTF this guy is a total scam. How can someone find this impressive. Thankfully, I saw the error of my previous assumptions

I liked his excuse that his "touch of death", or whatever only works on 40% of the population, and not on someone is well trained in knitting or (insert low level activity here).

Apparently, since it only seemed to "work" on his students, you could conclude that they are all unfit morons without grasp on reality, himself included.
Maybe smokin dried mushrooms is a prerequsite for attending his class.

When watching them all fall down after being "stunned" by his amazing jedi powers, a little voice inside my head startet proclaiming:

The Oscar goes to Grandmaster B, for his excellent potrayal of a Stupid Gitt, in the feature film "Delusions of grandeur"
A tragic tale of what one to many kicks to the head can do to your psyche.

But I have to admit, I know far too little about martial arts and dim mak to form an educated opinion, so I settle for this uneducated one.
Thanks for reading my crap :)
 
Well im going to go check it out.. im not interested in what they have to offer in any stand up fighting, I train MT several times a week and am convinced that is the only way to go for stand up but i need something for the middle.. or take downs thats why im interested. but frankly im not into a bunch of nonsense and silliness.....i know this sounds arrogant but to me after training MT for several years it seams like any other studio i walking into they are full of them selves and NEVER REALY INCOUNTER TRUE VILENCE! Then man that trained me was for sure truly violent and after spending so much time with him its hard to go to these places were the talk them selves up and jump around like fool.
Now im not saying that these judo guys are like that at all.. iv not been yet... ill see i guess.
 
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