* Red² - T's Journey 2007 *

[treilin]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

Doing very well T only 5 lbs from the show weight that is awesome. Just my 2 cents but you should let your body rest I know you don't want but it has takin a beating. To help with excess water you are holding you could hit a steam room or sauna for 20-30 minutes a couple times this week also get a massage one week of rest really will do you well.

I totally see what you are saying... I guess I'm struggling with looking at how many cals I was taking in and the amount of activity I was doing... and then to tally just stop doing all activity but keeping my cals even at a bit of an increased balance that I may start packing on weight. The cardio was more for like what you are talking about... to get rid of the excess water and help with circulation. Also, I personally feel better doing it. I don't feel taxed, I don't feel sore, I feel refreshed and revitalized. I'm also not going to be hitting the gym 'real' hard until mid-september. I know some people say the best gains are right after a show because of the insulin sensitivity... but I think I will take a break... add in some pilates, hit weights maybe 3 or 4 days a week for the next 4 weeks before I leave out. I am also formulating a plan for muscle maintenance to do while I'm over there. Sprints, plyo work, etc..
Then when I get back it's all out balls to the walls weight training again.
I need to look at some new ways of doing weights to shock my system. My trainer like I said has a few ideas but his plans are very black and white more old school approach... I need to freshen it up a bit.
Also, they are opening a new gym not even a 1/4 mile from my work and it opens while I'm in Europe.. so I think I'm getting a membership there and will have a new gym with everything new to start back in.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

I totally see what you are saying... I guess I'm struggling with looking at how many cals I was taking in and the amount of activity I was doing... and then to tally just stop doing all activity but keeping my cals even at a bit of an increased balance that I may start packing on weight. The cardio was more for like what you are talking about... to get rid of the excess water and help with circulation. Also, I personally feel better doing it. I don't feel taxed, I don't feel sore, I feel refreshed and revitalized. I'm also not going to be hitting the gym 'real' hard until mid-september. I know some people say the best gains are right after a show because of the insulin sensitivity... but I think I will take a break... add in some pilates, hit weights maybe 3 or 4 days a week for the next 4 weeks before I leave out. I am also formulating a plan for muscle maintenance to do while I'm over there. Sprints, plyo work, etc..
Then when I get back it's all out balls to the walls weight training again.
I need to look at some new ways of doing weights to shock my system. My trainer like I said has a few ideas but his plans are very black and white more old school approach... I need to freshen it up a bit.
Also, they are opening a new gym not even a 1/4 mile from my work and it opens while I'm in Europe.. so I think I'm getting a membership there and will have a new gym with everything new to start back in.

The body needs rest even if it feels refreshing. LOL This is why I suggested the sauna steam etc. I took a full week off. Kept my diet pretty tight more carbs and cals higher but fairly clean. The week I went back my strength was sick it felt fantastic to be repping big numbers again. I come from a very different background then most of you I did PLing for about a year before focusing on competing and body building. If you want to build muscle you need to be lifting heavy surpassing your numbers in the major lifts (squat, DL and bench every week ) strength gains = muscle gains plain and simple. I suggest looking into DC training if you are looking for a change.

 

[treilin]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

The body needs rest even if it feels refreshing. LOL This is why I suggested the sauna steam etc. I took a full week off. Kept my diet pretty tight more carbs and cals higher but fairly clean. The week I went back my strength was sick it felt fantastic to be repping big numbers again. I come from a very different background then most of you I did PLing for about a year before focusing on competing and body building. If you want to build muscle you need to lifting heavy surpassing your numbers in the major lifts (squat, DL and bench every week ) strength gains = muscle gains plain and simple. I suggest looking into DC training if you are looking for a change.

Nope totally understand about lifting heavy... Not really looking to do that till I get back mid-september = 'balls to the walls'
I'm not 100% familiar with DC training but will read up on it more. I found an article on Bodybuilding.com
I'm going to look at what I have done in the past as to when I saw gains, or how I felt to kinda help me figure out what I need to do next go around. I can definitely tell which exercises I can 'kill' and which ones feel like I'm just going through the motion.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

Nope totally understand about lifting heavy... Not really looking to do that till I get back mid-september = 'balls to the walls'
I'm not 100% familiar with DC training but will read up on it more. I found an article on Bodybuilding.com
I'm going to look at what I have done in the past as to when I saw gains, or how I felt to kinda help me figure out what I need to do next go around. I can definitely tell which exercises I can 'kill' and which ones feel like I'm just going through the motion.

Go straight to the source http://dc-training.blogspot.com/ from the Dogg himself.

 

[treilin]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

Go straight to the source http://dc-training.blogspot.com/ from the Dogg himself.

I'll do that! Thanks girlie

 

[WoNderWoMan25]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

Food is looking good! Eat if you are hungry!

What did your trainer say about diet/cardio?

 

[treilin]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

Food is looking good! Eat if you are hungry!

What did your trainer say about diet/cardio?

Well he wants me to work backwards through my weeks take week 13 this week, then week 12 next week... and slowly progress back to a reasonable calorie and macro balance... Umm I am not doing that 'cuz I leave for Europe in 4 weeks it's not feasible to be carrying chicken egg whites, and turkey all around Europe.. I can do tuna packs... protein bars, powder, etc...
We are supposed dto meet up sometime this week. I think he is spread to thin though and I think rather then wait on someone else to lead me.. I need to take control of teh situation and my diet and my exercise program. He leaves me in mid august anyway. Wants me to pay for a plan he puts together and diet etc by way of e-mail... Cost $200 a year. He also wants to employ me through his company. I don't want to pay someone $200 for a plan. I would rather pay for advice. He used to be more thorough on answering my questions when I would ask him for example: During my last week of carb up I asked him to explain exactly the physiological changes that are going on as to why he put a certain food in the diet a certain way and at a certain time. He didn't anser that question well enough. So.. I have the plan and if Ican't get the advice I'll take the plan and research it myself. Why pay for something if I'm not getting my questions answered thoroughly face to face... let alone over the net!

 

[nikkita]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

The body needs rest even if it feels refreshing. LOL This is why I suggested the sauna steam etc. I took a full week off. Kept my diet pretty tight more carbs and cals higher but fairly clean. The week I went back my strength was sick it felt fantastic to be repping big numbers again. I come from a very different background then most of you I did PLing for about a year before focusing on competing and body building. If you want to build muscle you need to be lifting heavy surpassing your numbers in the major lifts (squat, DL and bench every week ) strength gains = muscle gains plain and simple. I suggest looking into DC training if you are looking for a change.

I agree with Superqt4u2nv... since your body has been under lots of stress it is better to let it rest, although your metabolism now might be so high that you may feel hyperactive.

Letting your body rest for a week will help recovery so that when you hit the iron again you can truly make gains.

Last year I made the same as you're doing now (not taking time to recover) and I found it so hard to get back into my offseason weight again, it took me about 2 months.

If you're worried about getting bloated (since I don't know how much your depletion took) gradually make your carb load for this week so that your body gradually adapts.

My 2 cents.

 

[treilin]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

I agree with Superqt4u2nv... since your body has been under lots of stress it is better to let it rest, although your metabolism now might be so high that you may feel hyperactive.

Letting your body rest for a week will help recovery so that when you hit the iron again you can truly make gains.

Last year I made the same as you're doing now (not taking time to recover) and I found it so hard to get back into my offseason weight again, it took me about 2 months.

If you're worried about getting bloated (since I don't know how much your depletion took) gradually make your carb load for this week so that your body gradually adapts.

My 2 cents.

Thanks for your change
I do agree about a down time.... I feel though that I need to do the extra cardio if I'm going to be able to eat any more. My body is hypersensitive to bloating. I found this out dieting down... The cardio is for circulation. I was receiving regular massages (as I was going through massage school) during my bulking and part of my cutting cycle and it did not help with the bloating. Heat actually makes me swell worse. Cardio and increased water consumption combined with lower sodium intake helped decrease my bloating issues substantially. I am on low sodium still drinking increased water and doing like I said actually not even half the amount of cardio I was doing. I don't think 5 hours this week compared to 12 hours what I was doing is bad. Especially since I'm going to be upping my cals a lot faster then what was set out to do. I have to get them back up a bit faster then recommended. So one way to increase them is to keep my cardio up. I can do cardio no problem in Europe. So if I can find a balance now of cardio and cals that are maybe even 500 calories more then what I am doing in the next 4 weeks I think my body will adapt well. I'm not putting the added overloaded stress of weights on me at this time. I plan on doing maybe 2-4 weight days in the next well for 3 weeks for maintenance. I am 'not' bulking right now.
Just maintaining.
When I get back I plan on doing more HIIT training through the rest of the year for 2-3 days, and weights 5 days hopefully during my bulk. Again this is a sketchy plan I am altering in my head so advice and 2 cents are taken!
Thank you!

 

[The Shadow]

Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

yeah.....deep tissue massage willmake the bloating MUCH worse