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The Varnsen
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The arabs are evil, but if israelis hadn´t the guns USA has given them they would fight like the arabs...
I don't wanna blow up the whole middle east, I jsut wanna get rid of Iraq, Iran, Sudan, and Afganistan. Aren't all of these bastards members of one of the three sects of Islam anyways? The sect that preaches "kil all americans, christians, and Jews" If so, I wanna kill all the ones that follow this and let the other 2 be. I think its the shiites or something like that
The Varnsen said:
I disagree. The Israelis invented:
The Uzi
The Galil
The Desert Eagle
http://shalomsgunpage.8m.com/israeliguns.htm
Ffactor
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Peach,
You have to realize that most Americans understand your point and agree with you but you will always get a segment that react this way. Young immature kids, lower middle class rednecks, people who have not given this any thought other then the horror of what they see on TV.
Having said this I will have to say that I really don't care about Israel or Palestine. If this is about US support of Israel then the US should reconsider foreign policy because most of us do not want to die for Israel. Maybe you'll agree with me maybe not. There are about 5-10 million Jews in this country but there are 250 million people who are not. It is not our responsibility to protect Israel, they can do that themselves. They have enough money. I think the US should find out who's responsible, try to eradicate all terrorist cells to the best of their ability then LEAVE THAT REGION ALONE!!!!
To the person that commented on race and palestinians, I'm sorry to say racially they are not that different from you buddy, assuming you are white.
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You have to realize that most Americans understand your point and agree with you but you will always get a segment that react this way. Young immature kids, lower middle class rednecks, people who have not given this any thought other then the horror of what they see on TV.
Having said this I will have to say that I really don't care about Israel or Palestine. If this is about US support of Israel then the US should reconsider foreign policy because most of us do not want to die for Israel. Maybe you'll agree with me maybe not. There are about 5-10 million Jews in this country but there are 250 million people who are not. It is not our responsibility to protect Israel, they can do that themselves. They have enough money. I think the US should find out who's responsible, try to eradicate all terrorist cells to the best of their ability then LEAVE THAT REGION ALONE!!!!
To the person that commented on race and palestinians, I'm sorry to say racially they are not that different from you buddy, assuming you are white.
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My thoughts exactly. Why the FUCK is the US giving so much money to Israel? The US govt needs to stand up to the Jewish lobbyists and fucking leave Israel the hell alone. Terrorists don't think twice about killing themselves to acheive their cause. Innocent Americans die because of this.
LOOK WHAT HAPPENED!!! Thousands are dead!! We gotta care for our own asses. I couldn't care less about Israel.
read this page taken from CNN
April 23, 2001
Web posted at: 11:43 a.m. EDT (1543 GMT)
From David Ensor
CNN National Security Correspondent
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A new book quotes U.S. officials around during the 1967 Israeli attack on a U.S. surveillance ship as saying the attack was not an accident -- as Israel has always claimed -- but deliberate.
The attack, in which 34 American sailors died, was carried out to prevent the United States from eavesdropping on Israeli military activities, author James Bamford writes.
The USS Liberty was attacked during the Six Day War on June 8 by air and sea forces off the Sinai coast. Israel said the ship was mistaken for an Egyptian one and U.S. President Lyndon Johnson then accepted the explanation.
Israel later paid modest reparations to the families of the 34 Americans killed, and to the 171 others who were injured.
What the Israelis did not know, according to "Body of Secrets" -- published by Doubleday and scheduled for release Tuesday -- is that the U.S. National Security Agency had a surveillance plane flying above the Liberty.
The book quotes by name a Hebrew-English translator on that U.S. plane as saying the Israeli pilots talked about completing an attack. He said "they mentioned an American flag" -- suggesting the Israelis knew they were attacking a U.S. ship.
Bamford's other named sources include a former top N.S.A. official who conducted a review of the attack and an Air Force major general.
Israeli officials have not responded to CNN calls seeking comment.
Bamford writes that National Security Agency intercepts of the Israeli pilots and sailors remain secret to this day, although his sources say the communications would clearly show the Israelis attacked the U.S. ship deliberately.
As for motive, Bamford speculates in the book that the Israelis may not have wanted the United States to know that "at that same moment, a scant dozen or so miles away, Israeli soldiers were butchering civilians and bound prisoners by the hundreds, a fact that the entire Israeli army leadership knew about and condoned, according to the army's own historian."
Survivors of the attack on the USS Liberty have long argued that the Israelis had to know they were attacking an American ship, since the ship was circled repeatedly at a low altitude by Israeli aircraft before the attack and the ship was flying U.S. flags.
Bamford is an intelligence specialist and the author of a previous best-selling book about the NSA called "The Puzzle Palace."
Why does the US govt support Israel so much???
Again, I hope that President Bush reiterates the United States' UNRELENTING support for Israel.
Considering the facts mentioned in MattTheSkywalker's thread, the facts that we all know (but many refuse to acknowledge) about Palestine, and the sheer power of Israel as a nation-state...AND, add to that the number of pathetic little nations that we give money to, also, I think it's obvious that support of Israel is beneficial.
If you have studied ANY Jewish/Israeli history, you know that they are a force to be reckoned with.
*AND, you are all forgetting...IF these acts were committed BECAUSE we currently do support Israel, AND WE STOP NOW, or in the near future...WHAT IS THAT SAYING? Like I said, we might as well send our top supermodels to blow ol' bin Laden himself, hell maybe even Saddam, and Yassar, too. Let's show 'em a good time for f*cking with the red, white, and blue.
Do you see how absurd that is?
Without reiterating support, it will seem--to all the world, and especially our enemies--that we are bowing down to these lunatics after yesterday's atrocities.
America cannot have that...today, nor tomorrow, or ever!!
If you want to cut funding, cut the U.N. off, cut N.A.T.O. off (since most of their money is OUR money anyway), but don't leave Israel to join the bandwagon of jealous foreigners, most of which hate America anyway.
Considering the facts mentioned in MattTheSkywalker's thread, the facts that we all know (but many refuse to acknowledge) about Palestine, and the sheer power of Israel as a nation-state...AND, add to that the number of pathetic little nations that we give money to, also, I think it's obvious that support of Israel is beneficial.
If you have studied ANY Jewish/Israeli history, you know that they are a force to be reckoned with.
*AND, you are all forgetting...IF these acts were committed BECAUSE we currently do support Israel, AND WE STOP NOW, or in the near future...WHAT IS THAT SAYING? Like I said, we might as well send our top supermodels to blow ol' bin Laden himself, hell maybe even Saddam, and Yassar, too. Let's show 'em a good time for f*cking with the red, white, and blue.
Do you see how absurd that is?
Without reiterating support, it will seem--to all the world, and especially our enemies--that we are bowing down to these lunatics after yesterday's atrocities.
America cannot have that...today, nor tomorrow, or ever!!
If you want to cut funding, cut the U.N. off, cut N.A.T.O. off (since most of their money is OUR money anyway), but don't leave Israel to join the bandwagon of jealous foreigners, most of which hate America anyway.
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