funny when people say this.......
too me when I see a guy in good shape he is an athlete (like basketball player/football player)
I have seen many big/ripped/vascular mofo's that can't run 1 minute without getting gassed. I am not saying BW1 is like that....... but greg kovacs came to my gym once and could barely make it up a flight of stairs without breathing hard.
some people vascularity is genetic, sauce, or other drugs..... why do people think ripped means good shape ? cardiovascular could be the shits and still be ripped.