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If god created the universe than he is the oldest part of the universe. Furthermore, if he/she/it really existed and he revealed himself to humanity, he should not have a dramatic change ,like turning from 2 different gods into one.

A little copy from a bible history:

We now know this Mesopotamian god as "El-ohim," and our author "E," one of the earliest scriptorialists writing about this time, first has El introducing himself to Abraham as "El Shaddai" (El of the Mountain). He also appears as El Elyon, or El of Bethel in other, non-canonized scripture, and his name is also preserved in such Hebrew names as Isra-El and Ishma-El. The word Elohim was originally a plural of El.2

To the south, from Bethel to the Valley of Beersheba, a similar transformation is taking place. In this climatically and geologically harsher place, a place with a much smaller and less settled population with greater geographical isolation, the Canaanite god Yahweh is being transformed by a culturally similar people of the land of Judah. The unknown author known to scholars simply as "J" has his god being familiar with and comfortable with Abraham, and he casually appears to Abraham in Genesis 18, introducing himself as Yahweh. But "J's" contemporary, author "E" in the north can't have God being so casual, and first appears as a voice, commanding Abraham to leave his people in Mesopotamia and settle in Canaan.3

Yahweh, in his transformation from a pagan Canaanite god to the god of the Jews, becomes a cruel and vindictive god in the hands of author "J." He commands Abraham to sacrifice his first born son, an act which is not at all surprising given the nature of the pagan religions of the time. Many of these pagan religions (and remember that Yahweh got his start as a Canannite pagan god) considered the first-born to be the seed of a god. Because of this, they were often sacrificed to the god who presumably sired them.

Yet Elohim in the north continues to be a much more subtle god, who directs the affairs of men by revelation of the voice, hidden from the view of mere mortals. There is a tension among these peoples, both of whom identify themselves as culturally decendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. One people, perhaps, but two gods.


So even if the universe was created by some god, it surely wasn´t the christian, because this one was clearly man made.
 
Norman Bates said:
So even if the universe was created by some god, it surely wasn´t the christian, because this one was clearly man made.
Your post is valid regarding our very limited, human understanding of God and cites some possible contradictions between the percieved history of "revelation." However, it hardly eliminates the possibility of truth in christianity.

BTW, I believe God is more than the oldest "part" of the universe. God is the universe.
 
Your eternal god is a merged product of different tribes, that is not a possible contradiction, it is a big contradiction that shows that the christian god is an imaginery thing.

Also, it contradicts that an eternal god revealed himself as the christian one, because if it really was more than fantasy, he would not have come up as 2 gods, but as one.
And if one of those believes was correct, they would not have merged ,but the real one would have proven the other one to be false.
 
Norman Bates said:
Your eternal god is a merged product of different tribes, that is not a possible contradiction, it is a big contradiction that shows that the christian god is an imaginery thing.
Who say's any human's definition of God is correct? No human perception is without contradiction. Does this mean their is no reality?

Can a human even comprehend the fullness of God? I do not believe so. However, we try to define God with human perception and logic. Our perception and logic cannot fully comprehend the single smallest unit of "substance." How then can we expect to comprehend and explain the universe in it's entirety, manifest in God?

Norman Bates said:
Also, it contradicts that an eternal god revealed himself as the christian one, because if it really was more than fantasy, he would not have come up as 2 gods, but as one.
And if one of those believes was correct, they would not have merged ,but the real one would have proven the other one to be false.
Again, we're attempting to fit God into the box of human understanding. I will fully agree that much of traditional Christian theology is just that - an attempt to limit God to our logic. However, to suggest that God could not chose to present himself in any degree of entirety as a man because it does not fit our logic is absurd. Are you clinging to the simplistic idea that God on the ground means a seprate God in the sky? I believe God is present in everything at all times. God does not fit our logic, God supercedes our logic.
 
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