Protein Synthesis

[untamedgorilla]

The average person's body can assimulate 35g's of protein at one time. I know AAS increases this ammount by how much. Just curious because my protein shake takes 4 scoops and gives 56 g's of protein. i like to take it all at one time with 12 ounces of milk this is a total of about 65 g's of protein. On compounds like Test and Deca would any protein b wasted? thanx (the protein in N-Large 2)

 

[athlete.03]

This is a great question and one that will get a wide range of answers. Is there anyone out there with some formal academic training on the topic?

 

[flyin j]

Yes very interesting...??

 

[shamrock11]

IMO this number is not consistant from person to person. I believe it has to do with the weight of the person. This is so b/c the protein requirement for each individual is 1 to 1.5 grams per pound of body weight. This would mean that a 250 pound person would have to eat 8 meals a day to get the required protein. For instance your absorbation rate after a work out is going to be higher than usual.

 

[untamedgorilla]

5"9 183

 

[krisco]

Form what i've read during my research here at EF yes it does increase drasticly. Can't remember the exact figure though. it was alot

 

[The Terminator]

While on you will be able to utitlize protein much more efficiently...However NOONE here can give you an exact figure on HOW more much it can be...

For me I shoot for ~40 grams per meal 6-8 times a day and I am about your size (almost exactly...)

 

[untamedgorilla]

thanx, i read avg person can do 35 at a time. so i think u urself could do well over 40. like 50+

 

[dugie65]

damn i just took in 65 lol

 

[rao740]

i think it increases but i think the amounts are marginal for everyone but 6 or 7 more grams is great 4 x a day thats 28 g more protien so i take in about 175g a day but i can not force another shake down or meal all i do is eat so that not bad but 240g a day would be great not no reasonable for me 6' 182lbs

 

[Qphoton]

guys let me tell u something ....we'r here taking about the pure protein well i used to use on's whey protein and it gives u about 28 g of protein per serving / one scoop i usually take 4-5 scoops once four times a day means about 140 g + 2 packets myoplex all in addition to my regular diet 400 g of chicken breasts + 11 egg whites + 2 cans of tuna fish + 300 of steak +0.5 liter of milk ....carb ...veggies...fruits ......and finally almost growing believe me ......so now any ideas about taknig your whole needs of protein from the supplements .....theoritically why not ......give a reason

 

[sweed]

average day im takin in around 450- 500 grams of protein a day around 40- 50 grams every meal... yes i try to eat 10 times a day every 2- 2.5 hours. I think this is workin out for me being "on" . I hav also read that the human body can take in and absorb a lot more than 30- 35 grams per meal, I read that, dont know if its totally true.. we should find a study.
Anyways N-Large 2 is bad bro... if anything only use that postworkout. way too much high GI carbs to take in during the day

 

[Makavelli]

While on you will be able to utitlize protein much more efficiently...However NOONE here can give you an exact figure on HOW more much it can be...QUOTE]

Right. I don't believe that the body is restricted to how much protein one can assimilate at one time.

 

[Tux]

I try not to go much over 50g's per meal. Then again, I tend to eat 6-8x per day, and I weigh only about 185lbs right now. So that's pushing 300g's of protein per day, more than enough to grow.

 

[Güclü_oglan]

10mg of dbol increase protein synthesis by 500% i read somewhere (dunno if that's the average before it reaches halving-time or for 24 hours to come)

 

[djgaler]

average day im takin in around 450- 500 grams of protein a day around 40- 50 grams every meal... yes i try to eat 10 times a day every 2- 2.5 hours. I think this is workin out for me being "on" . I hav also read that the human body can take in and absorb a lot more than 30- 35 grams per meal, I read that, dont know if its totally true.. we should find a study.
Anyways N-Large 2 is bad bro... if anything only use that postworkout. way too much high GI carbs to take in during the day

I bet your grocery bill is HUGE!!
DJ

 

[Slyder190]

50mg every 3 hours is my standard wether on or off.

 

[StereOMaN]

Umm... This is a little off topic but I know that N-Large has a rediculas amount of calories in it. Which can be good, except that shakes like N-Large are not full of very good or useful calories. As I was advised one day, you are better off eating 2 eggs and a cake. At least thats what I have been lead to believe!

 

[Makavelli]

Umm... This is a little off topic but I know that N-Large has a rediculas amount of calories in it. Which can be good, except that shakes like N-Large are not full of very good or useful calories. As I was advised one day, you are better off eating 2 eggs and a cake. At least thats what I have been lead to believe!

Those high cal weight gainers will make you big...and fat! I remember I drank 1/2 of a 1000 cal shake before and after training while bulking for a week. I got huge pumps, but also gained quite a bit of fat in the week that I did it.

 

[DonCorleone562]

Lets say we can only digest 35gms of protein at a time. How long is that 'time'? How long does it take on average for the body to digest those 35 grams? 1 hour, 2 hours??

I figure as soon as i'm done digesting, I'll just gulp down another shake immediately.

 

[azul]

There isn't a single study showing that we can only digest 35g of protein in one sitting. The food simply sits in your intestines and slowly gets digested. It doesn't matter whether it's 10g of protein or 100g... ultimately, it all gets digested.

 

[DonCorleone562]

There isn't a single study showing that we can only digest 35g of protein in one sitting. The food simply sits in your intestines and slowly gets digested. It doesn't matter whether it's 10g of protein or 100g... ultimately, it all gets digested.

I think i actually meant assimulate instead of digest.

 

[azul]

I think i actually meant assimulate instead of digest.

The definition of assimilate: To consume and incorporate (nutrients) into the body after digestion.

 

[Tux]

Quite untrue Azul. Your body can only make use of nutrients at a certain rate. Otherwise, why do you think laxative abuse would help people stay thin? If you eat 100grams of protein at one sitting, it will be through your small intestine before your body can manage to digest it all, you'll simply crap out the rest that you couldn't digest in time. Laxatives work this way for bulemics, they increase gastric motility so the food they eat doesn't stay in the digestive tract as long, hence fewer of the calories they eat are actually absorbed. If you eat too much food at once, your body will not absorb it all and will get rid of what it couldn't digest in time. While I agree that the upper limit is probably more than 35g per sitting, especially for us bbers on gear, there is indeed an upper limit.

 

[azul]

Quite untrue Azul. Your body can only make use of nutrients at a certain rate. Otherwise, why do you think laxative abuse would help people stay thin? If you eat 100grams of protein at one sitting, it will be through your small intestine before your body can manage to digest it all, you'll simply crap out the rest that you couldn't digest in time. Laxatives work this way for bulemics, they increase gastric motility so the food they eat doesn't stay in the digestive tract as long, hence fewer of the calories they eat are actually absorbed. If you eat too much food at once, your body will not absorb it all and will get rid of what it couldn't digest in time. While I agree that the upper limit is probably more than 35g per sitting, especially for us bbers on gear, there is indeed an upper limit.

There is no basis for suggesting that we can only assimilate 30 or 40 or 50 grams of protein in one meal. I have yet to see a study showing that after a certain amount, the protein will just be excreted. I agree that if you eat 100g of protein, a bit of that might not be absorbed, but I will stick to my argument that as long as you're not eating excessive amounts, most of the 50 or 60 or 70g will be assimilated, sooner or later.

 

[cboogsrun]

The average person's body can assimulate 35g's of protein at one time. I know AAS increases this ammount by how much. Just curious because my protein shake takes 4 scoops and gives 56 g's of protein. i like to take it all at one time with 12 ounces of milk this is a total of about 65 g's of protein. On compounds like Test and Deca would any protein b wasted? thanx (the protein in N-Large 2)

I try to use a blend of different kinds of protein. So I can still consume 60-70 grams at a time. Whey is obviously the fastest so only 30 grams or so is all my body can handle. The others cassein, soy, egg, seem to be slower. Which is perfect for bed time. I also eat cottage cheese before bed sometimes.

Boogs

 

[cboogsrun]

I also notice if I consume whey halfway through my workout, I shit like a fucking duck. Nice and soft though. Especially with Isopure. That stuff is extremely fast. If I put a dip of chew in and drink ISO, I'm fucked on the drive home.

Boogs

 

[luciano]

I use to take 10 mg dbol at every meal time and i cant get lower then 60 g of protein : 30 from solid meal like steak + 30 from whey powder . If i go lower i dont feel good neither results r ok.
So i have only 3 meals per day of minimum 60 g protein ( sometimes even 70g or 80g )
this is the way it works good 4 me.

 

[The Terminator]

Some of you are forgetting a VERY IMPORTANT point though...

Excessive calories intaken (even in ALL PROTEIN) will not be simply just be "excreted"...The more likely scenario is that the body will turn it into adispose tissue and store is as FAT So taking in excessive macronutrients (whether they are carbs, fats, or protein) they run a HIGH likelihood being stored as fat , IF takne in abundance at each meal...

 

[luciano]

i agree but it depends too on what substance ur runing i guess , metabolism and calories consumed in activity , so everyone should fix the serving size acording with his situation, 4 me 35g is way too low for a meal with 10 dbol

 

[Tux]

You failed to see that I agreed with you Azul lol. I said there IS an upper limit but I agree it's more than 35g. I take in 50g per meal which seems to be good for me. I know if I take 100g's of protein at once though, i'm not absorbing all of it before I crap the rest out. 40, 50, 60grams at once, sure that's reasonable. Maybe even 80g's for some bigger guys, with a mix of casein/meat/whey. But there are indeed plenty of medical studies showing that large, infrequent meals are not digested and absorbed as fully as smaller, more frequent meals containing the same exact overall amounts of macros. Might not be specifically what you want, but that does show that the body cannot process unlimited amounts of protein at one sitting. That was my point, that an excessive amount like 100+grams will not be fully absorbed, for the rest I agree with you that you can certainly absorb more than 35g at a time.

 

[javaguru]

The average person's body can assimulate 35g's of protein at one time. I know AAS increases this ammount by how much. Just curious because my protein shake takes 4 scoops and gives 56 g's of protein. i like to take it all at one time with 12 ounces of milk this is a total of about 65 g's of protein. On compounds like Test and Deca would any protein b wasted? thanx (the protein in N-Large 2)

Did the article post a citation to the research? I have never seen research finding only x amount of protein can be assimilated in one sitting.

 

[azul]

You failed to see that I agreed with you Azul lol. I said there IS an upper limit but I agree it's more than 35g. I take in 50g per meal which seems to be good for me. I know if I take 100g's of protein at once though, i'm not absorbing all of it before I crap the rest out. 40, 50, 60grams at once, sure that's reasonable. Maybe even 80g's for some bigger guys, with a mix of casein/meat/whey. But there are indeed plenty of medical studies showing that large, infrequent meals are not digested and absorbed as fully as smaller, more frequent meals containing the same exact overall amounts of macros. Might not be specifically what you want, but that does show that the body cannot process unlimited amounts of protein at one sitting. That was my point, that an excessive amount like 100+grams will not be fully absorbed, for the rest I agree with you that you can certainly absorb more than 35g at a time.

3 hours of sleep = me tired. I'm going to sleep before I type up more nonesense

 

[stoneriver]

Considering I had 2 protein shakes, 2 wheat bagels, 2 baskets of buffalo wings, and an entire rack of ribs 8 hours ago and dont feel any crap at all coming on tells me we assimilate, and/or store, a whole lot more than 35grams.

 

[luciano]

xplanation

i think the type of protein source counts too, i mean if i take at once 30 g of hydrolised protein it will b absorbed in the first 15 minutes to the first 1 hour and half , then the rest of 30 even 40 g from steak ( i had at the same time with that protein shake ) will be digested and asimilated begining in at least 2 hours until the next 4 hours , so this is the reason i consider that i can have a solid 40 g of protein and another 30 g of hydrolised whey at the same meal/time

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

The average person's body can assimulate 35g's of protein at one time. I know AAS increases this ammount by how much. Just curious because my protein shake takes 4 scoops and gives 56 g's of protein. i like to take it all at one time with 12 ounces of milk this is a total of about 65 g's of protein. On compounds like Test and Deca would any protein b wasted? thanx (the protein in N-Large 2)

My protein is Optimum Nutrition Pro Complex...55g protein per serving. I always mix that with rolled oats in the morning...so total protein is well over 60g's...its all good

 

[van_wilder]

Those high cal weight gainers will make you big...and fat! I remember I drank 1/2 of a 1000 cal shake before and after training while bulking for a week. I got huge pumps, but also gained quite a bit of fat in the week that I did it.

Is that a fair assumption to make? did all else remain constant except for the addition of the shake? ..and even then can ou blame the shake for making you fat or the additional calories?
VW

 

[LoneTree]

You are confusing several things.
Assimilation and digestion are two different things.
It is untrue that you can only digest 35 gm of protein 'at one time'.
You don't need more than 1 gm of protein per Lb even on AAS.
Required daily amount is less than half of that (58-63 g).
'There is no scientific evidence that protein diets exceeding 1.7 g/kg per day provide an additional advantage.' Physiology of Sport and Exercise. page 416/417.

 

[luciano]

there r tonz of xperimental evidence that more that 2 and 3 g of protein / kg provide better results , just try 4 yourself and see !

 

[LoneTree]

there r tonz of xperimental evidence that more that 2 and 3 g of protein / kg provide better results , just try 4 yourself and see !

1g/Lb comes to 2.2 gm/Kg.
That's what I suggested.

 

[gymratforlife]

Does the use of slin increase the amount of protein your body will use?Like lets say maybe 100grams in one hour while on slin?If the answer is not what is the point of taking slin?I thought it would simply push everything you ate in the time its active into your muscle and fat cells and it would allow for more protein absorbtion by the muscle cells?