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Protein intake in a single meal

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Soup's On - Protein Intake in a Single Meal

CW: Here's a hot topic for you guys. People often ask me about how much protein can and should be eaten in a single muscle building meal. Although there may not be a single number given that can be applied to everyone because of the variables involved in protein metabolism (LBM, REE, T3-T4 levels, Testosterone, insulin, the list goes on and on), I'll say that based on size, a minimum of 40 grams per sitting should work well for everyone. It's important that people know that those amino acids do a heck of a lot more than build muscle. You need them to form a lot of various hormones and neurotransmitters, as well as other important constituents in the human body.

A maximum protein intake is much harder to estimate. In the real world, many guys consume amounts in the 60 to 90 gram range. By in large, these same men have all been successful in their bodybuilding efforts. Another thing to consider is the role that timing plays in how much you should consume in one sitting. Obviously, you should consume the largest amounts when rising and before going to bed. I feel you should also increase the amount of protein directly following a workout. Okay, what do you guys think?

JB: I agree completely on this point. Actually, this topic has been debated in the absence of data for far too long. Just to let you all in on a little secret, I'm aware of a research protocol being designed right now to investigate this very question! Pretty soon we should have some data that will tell us just how much protein can be absorbed in a single sitting. Exciting, right Lonnie? So Lonnie, to go one step further with this question, do you know of any good "adjunct" nutrients that may actually help us digest and metabolize even higher levels of daily or "per meal" protein intake?

LL: There's been talk of using bromelain and papain enzymes from pineapples and papaya, respectively, to increase protein digestion. The truth is, digestion of many proteins already averages above 90%, so I doubt they'll help much in this regard. I will say that when consuming powdered proteins, I personally try to double the fluid volume that most supplement labels recommend. This helps to keep me from continually "assaulting the porcelain," if you know what I mean. Nobody's going to grow with a thick, osmotic nightmare of nutrients dragging out their backside. I also try to eat some solid food with reconstituted protein drinks and MRPs for similar reasons.
















...BASIC CONSENSUS IS A MINIMUM OF 40 GRAMS PER MEAL AND DEPENDING UPON THE TYPE OF PROTEIN..POSSIBLY MORE...
 
nycgirl said:
Should your total be based on weight or lbm? Also, what about egg white protein? Do you take more?


Those guys recommend 1.25-1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight....not lbm...although the number will vary etc...some even say to use 1.25-1.5 times the WEIGHT YOU WANT TO BE

SO...on larger bbing men for example...that could be as much as 400 grams or more...assuming 8 meals per day(which is a LOT)...then its about 50 grams per meal...a lot more than what some recommend as a max amount
 
I htink protein type is something that needs to be addressed to a greater extent....it just makes sense that WHEY for ex can be broken down and utilized to a greater extent than say, red meat.


I certainly feel the powders can be consumed in slightly larger amounts without losing any "punch" so to speak
 
The Shadow said:
Those guys recommend 1.25-1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight....not lbm...although the number will vary etc...some even say to use 1.25-1.5 times the WEIGHT YOU WANT TO BE

SO...on larger bbing men for example...that could be as much as 400 grams or more...assuming 8 meals per day(which is a LOT)...then its about 50 grams per meal...a lot more than what some recommend as a max amount

I think buffchic69 asked a similar question. I've seen conflicting advice (bodyweight vs. lbm). I always try to eat at least bodyweight. Lbm for me isn't too much.

Does it matter where or how you get your protein? Powder vs. Meat vs. veggie.
 
nycgirl said:
I think buffchic69 asked a similar question. I've seen conflicting advice (bodyweight vs. lbm). I always try to eat at least bodyweight. Lbm for me isn't too much.

Does it matter where or how you get your protein? Powder vs. Meat vs. veggie.


If s show isnt around the corner I feel a mix is important


Fish - Omegas
Chicken - LOW fat source
Red Meat - ful of Creatine and other great things

Whey post training
 
The Shadow said:
If s show isnt around the corner I feel a mix is important

Fish - Omegas
Chicken - LOW fat source
Red Meat - ful of Creatine and other great things

Whey post training

I assume it doesn't matter the type of show. Is it the same whether you are trying to gain muscle mass or just lean out?
 
nycgirl said:
I assume it doesn't matter the type of show. Is it the same whether you are trying to gain muscle mass or just lean out?

imo - it doesnt matter what type of show...the diea is to build/or at least maintain LBM till the show


in terms of cutting...its a toss up


whey and chicken are low in fat..whey has none

red meat and salmon/fish have fat cals with them
 
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