Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), By Ross Erstling

[lookinfit75]

Some of this is subject to debate but just so we all know I made this thread last week bwahahahaha beet you to it ross!!!!!!!

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ct-post-cycle-therapy-added-gains-611482.html

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[van_wilder]

Thanks for the info Ross. What is the schedule for the compounds you have listed. Are those weekly allotments or daily? And of course, do you recommend HCG throughout the longer cycles?

+1 for thoughts on HCG

 

[needtogetaas]

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well the idea has been around for ever.

 

[Ross]

+1 for thoughts on HCG

Yes, HCG can be used DURING PRE-PCT in conjunction with your Active Recovery. This will further ensure that LH/FSH seretion and subsequent testosterone production BEGINS prior to PCT.

 

[lookinfit75]

well the idea has been around for ever.

I know needto, I was just messing around.

 

[Roc86]

What is "active recovery" comprised of other than the use of HCG ?

 

[wolfman87]

question: if i'm running 50-100mg proviron for the last 4 weeks of my cycle should i go ahead and throw in the extra tbol i have at 20mg/day, and then proceed with pct 2 weeks after last inject of cyp? OR should continue use of the orals during that 2 week phase and then jump into pct?

 

[wolfman87]

What is "active recovery" comprised of other than the use of HCG ?

Pre-PCT: PRE-PCT allows the HPTA to begin LH/FSH output, while still receiving additional anabolic support. This is the peroid of time where we utilize a NON-inhibitory steroid while the endogenous testosterone level begins to recover. This occurs PRIOR TO FULL PCT, so that by the time we begin full PCT the HPTA has already began recovering.

Active RECOVERY: The HPTA BEGINS to restore endogenous testosterone production once it detects the body's androgen level beginning to decline(end of cycle).

Therefore, HPTA CAN BEGIN TO RECOVER WHILE STILL IN AN ANABOLIC STATE!


The following drugs can be used during Active Recovery:

Anavar/Proviron= 20mgs/25mgs
Anavar/Masteron= 20mgs/300mgs
Primobolan/Masteron= 200mgs/200mgs
Turinabol/Proviron= 20mgs/50mgs
Turinabol/Masteron= 20mgs/50mgs
Winstrol/Masteron= 50mgs/200
Dianabol/Proviron= 15mgs/50mgs
Dianabol/Masteron= 15mgs/200mgs

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[nzrodney]

Pre-PCT: PRE-PCT allows the HPTA to begin LH/FSH output, while still receiving additional anabolic support. This is the peroid of time where we utilize a NON-inhibitory steroid while the endogenous testosterone level begins to recover. This occurs PRIOR TO FULL PCT, so that by the time we begin full PCT the HPTA has already began recovering.

Active RECOVERY: The HPTA BEGINS to restore endogenous testosterone production once it detects the body's androgen level beginning to decline(end of cycle).

Therefore, HPTA CAN BEGIN TO RECOVER WHILE STILL IN AN ANABOLIC STATE!


The following drugs can be used during Active Recovery:

Anavar/Proviron= 20mgs/25mgs
Anavar/Masteron= 20mgs/300mgs
Primobolan/Masteron= 200mgs/200mgs
Turinabol/Proviron= 20mgs/50mgs
Turinabol/Masteron= 20mgs/50mgs
Winstrol/Masteron= 50mgs/200
Dianabol/Proviron= 15mgs/50mgs
Dianabol/Masteron= 15mgs/200mgs

I think the Jury is still out on this one Ross. All of the above AAS supress the HPTA. I like this theory in practice, although personally I have not tried it, mainly due to my rather long "cycle". My belief is that using gear as you prescribe only allows for a "Soft Landing". It allows time for the body to stabilise estrogenic & androgenic activity, but the HPTA is still shutdown.

 

[lilj888]

so you are saying you can use masteron as a pre-pct? i thought masteron was only a mild anti-e