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[dabuffguy]

I have never expressed any confusion as to why I am not gaining size...I KNOW I AM IN A CALORIE DEFICIT. For the last fucking time SIZE IS NOT MY CONCERN. DEFINITION IS.


Just because my goal isn't your goal doesn't make it wrong. When I get the look I want I can then adjust my calories so that my body can support more muscle mass.


For those who care, cycle will roughly be:


Week Compound Dose
1-4 Anavar 50 MGs/day
1-15 Test C 250 MGs twice/week
1-15 Adex .5 MGs/day
11-15 2a, 17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol 60 MGs/day

In your other thread, you put your goals as "GET FUCKING JACKED/RIPPED" like 2 days ago.

So, you did say you wanted to get big. That's what "jacked" means.


Maybe you were'nt confused, but you confused me pretty well.




Drop the attitude as well. You have given mixed info, and the frustration you created own your own merit does not need to be expressed on the boards. Don't "F" bomb people.

 

[joe d]

Three years consistent training. Gym 6 days a week(lazy weeks are 5 days a week). I know that when you see 5'10'' 174 pounds you're like damn that's tiny...but it's not like I'm some weak little shit or something who doesn't know how to lift. It's not like I'm some dumbfuck who can only bench his body weight and wants to start gear, my core lifts are all solid and I know my body and I know that it is time for me to take the next step. You guys are here to advise me how to best do that, not advise me not to.


Thanks.

the next step for you is to go on a bulking diet. 4000+ cals 300+ grams protein 600+ grams carbs 50+ grams fat every day. change the routine to 6 days of training will be to much when you start to grow imo. 3 or 4 days is good. if you jump on gear with that diet you will not make any progress. make the diet adjustments first play around with it for a while to get yourself growing good. then look into testosterone.

 

[sweed]

ya no more f bombs or dabuffguy WILL eat your soul.

 

[dabuffguy]

ya no more f bombs or dabuffguy WILL eat your soul.

I will consume your soul into the black death of eternal damnation and suffering. AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!









lolololol, I'm such a clown.

 

[jwo02]

You can go 15. 12 or sometimes even 10 is recommended for a first. Running HCG is a smart thing and makes recovery much smoother. I have learned from the good bros here though to run it throughout the cycle instead of at the end.

How much HCG throughout? Still 250 IUs/week? If I run it throughout will I need to run it any after the cycle?


Thanks man.

 

[OneBreath]

How much HCG throughout? Still 250 IUs/week? If I run it throughout will I need to run it any after the cycle?


Thanks man.

500 per week split into 2 doses starting at week 3 and ending on week 15 (if thats how long you will go). I will do this for my next cycle. Essentially running a small amount throughout the cycle is better than running a large amount after the cycle. My last cycle i ran 3000/week for 3 weeks at the end. I have recovered fine, but the general consensus here is to run the small amount during the cycle for best recovery.

 

[joe d]

your aproach is ass backwards. you are well within your natural limits. what are steroids for? they are to extend your limits. that is it. to use them now would be pointless your goal can be reached through knowlege on diet, training, and recovery. to try to lose the little bit of fat you have first is a waist of time and counter productive. the way to reach your stated goals is to bulk until you reach the level of mass you want then cut. that diet will do neither. your cardio you posted will eat your muscle away to. it is way to much. adding aas at this point is prolonging you reaching your goals. it is just another thing you are going to try and fail at because of your lack of knowlege. once you see this for yourself you will understand that i am just trying to help you out and hopefully you will then understand where your priorities need to be. good luck to you man.

 

[socalmuscle]

your aproach is ass backwards. you are well within your natural limits. what are steroids for? they are to extend your limits. that is it. to use them now would be pointless your goal can be reached through knowlege on diet, training, and recovery. to try to lose the little bit of fat you have first is a waist of time and counter productive. the way to reach your stated goals is to bulk until you reach the level of mass you want then cut. that diet will do neither. your cardio you posted will eat your muscle away to. it is way to much. adding aas at this point is prolonging you reaching your goals. it is just another thing you are going to try and fail at because of your lack of knowlege. once you see this for yourself you will understand that i am just trying to help you out and hopefully you will then understand where your priorities need to be. good luck to you man.

+1 great post JOE D

jwo02 I hope you read this and take it to heart. Everyone here on EF is your friend, we are all trying to help you succeed in reaching you goals as a bodybuilder. I would listen to what they have to say, experience in the sport is worth the price of gold.

Take some time and really reflect before you decide to just jump on some aas.

-socal

 

[galaxy]

Vascularity comes through time, low body fat and heavy lifting. Not much you can do for that in one cycle.

 

[dabuffguy]

Vascularity comes through time, low body fat and heavy lifting. Not much you can do for that in one cycle.

oddly enough, I have found that once I go off cycle and my body catches up to the strength and mass that was so crazily put on in so short of time, my vasculairty improves greatly.