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Yikes!!! That would be a good cycle....but a first cycle? I don't know bro. This shit can be debated all night long, but imo a gram of gear a week is a rather advanced first cycle.


I agree, just do 250mg of test a week gain your 12-20lbs and lose it after you come off and ask us what to do again. Its much easier.
 
I know that everybody needs some sweet taste every once and a while. So plan one day a week to have something sweet. Don't binge on the stuff but control yourself and have one cupcake only. The rest of the time eat very clean. Look at the cupcake as a reward for a good weeks work. If you didn't do your best in the gym forfeit the cupcake.

One of my favorite meals is cottage cheese with blue berries, with oatmeal and egg whites. I use frozen blue berries and heat them in a micro wave. Add the cottage cheese to it and heat it up again. Then cook the oatmeal. After the oatmeal is done add a couple of cups of egg whites. Cook this all together until the egg whites are cooked. Then mix it into the cottage cheese and add some splenda. This shit tastes like you are cheating but it is very good for you. Also eat a lot of fish and red meat. I tend to grind my meat and cook in a skillet. Add some pasta, a can of corn and some mushroom soup. For fish I like to steam it in a bamboo steamer. I put it on a plate with high sides. Put the plate with the cleaned fish on it( with a little ginger and green onions inside the fish) in the steamer. It only takes a couple of minutes to cook. Then take out the plate being careful to not lose any of the juice on the plate. Pour the juice over rice and put the fish on top of the rice. ( man my mouth is starting to water.)

And train you ass off in the gym. And if you really have to use some sort of roid start with a testosterone only cycle. 500mg per week is more then enough. But if you don't train hard on it you will just grow a set of tits from the conversion to estrogen. But personally I would rather you stayed off roids for a couple more decades. I didn't start until I was well into my forties. All roids will do for you is help you recover faster. So that means you have to train harder to get the muscles you want. And I bet you could get that right now by just eating right and training harder, and smarter.
 
put the needle down and back away...


bro 250mg/weekly will get you solid gains for your first cycle... but you definetly need to research more.
 
While I think jwo02 isn't exactly an expert, I do think a lot of us are being harsh with him. Let's keep this thread going in a positive direction - advise the guy, we all started somewhere and I'm sure all of you learned a shit ton a few cycles down the road that made you look like a total newb when you first started teh jewz...myself included.

We are fortunate people post their plans to cycle and ALLOW us to help as opposed to having them go off in the real world and making a fool of themselves...all the while jeopardizing their health.

Take inexperience on EF as a blessing - we have the ability to make the bodybuilding community tighter by helping one person at at time.
 
There was some good information as well as some bad information from arrogant know it all dumbfucks in this thread.


Thanks for the good information. As for the dumbfucks, thanks for encouraging me to find another board to ask about future cycles on, because it wont be this one.


EF is a great place until people find out you're just starting. Literally EVERY thread I have ever read here about a first cycle has had several people saying "you're not ready". If you're going to say that then just go ahead and shut the fuck up because we know when we need gear and when we don't. Everyone's goals aren't the same. My goal right now is to shed body fat and in order to that I have to be in a caloric deficit, but I don't want to sacrifice my muscle, so what do you do? You introduce AAS to preserve lean body mass. 100% what it is meant for.


Heaven fucking forbid I skipped legs one day and half assed an upper body workout because I knew I'd be hitting the same muscle group harder the next day. Don't act like you've never cheated your diet or skipped on a workout. You are one pathetic fuck.
 
While I think jwo02 isn't exactly an expert, I do think a lot of us are being harsh with him. Let's keep this thread going in a positive direction - advise the guy, we all started somewhere and I'm sure all of you learned a shit ton a few cycles down the road that made you look like a total newb when you first started teh jewz...myself included.

We are fortunate people post their plans to cycle and ALLOW us to help as opposed to having them go off in the real world and making a fool of themselves...all the while jeopardizing their health.

Take inexperience on EF as a blessing - we have the ability to make the bodybuilding community tighter by helping one person at at time.

+1000!
We all have to start somewhere so the best thing to do is advise this cat as best we can. So far advice is solid.

No one has mentioned the fact that his Pops is the one who is going to be the hook up. Kinda odd (I had a friend growing up who who's pop would let him drink at home when we were still way under age, now's he's an alcoholic just like his dad) but if you're dad is hooking you up, maybe you should be asking him about cycle advice as well because I imagine that he wouldn't be hooking you up with shit he doesn't know about or that he wouldn't have at least dabbled himself, right?
 
i still think at 175lbs you dont need to lose BF at your hieght... bad idea... let your body mature and add some more mass...

always a good first cycle is the trusty DBOL...
 
Wow somebody can't handle the truth. Your first post was the problem. You said you wanted to go big in doses, lose fat, gain lbm, massive veins......so your goals weren't as simple as you are stating now.There are so holes in what you are saying its ridiculous.

I've no doubt you will do a cycle. Hope it works out for the best and that you do enough research to know how to recover.

There was some good information as well as some bad information from arrogant know it all dumbfucks in this thread.


Thanks for the good information. As for the dumbfucks, thanks for encouraging me to find another board to ask about future cycles on, because it wont be this one.


EF is a great place until people find out you're just starting. Literally EVERY thread I have ever read here about a first cycle has had several people saying "you're not ready". If you're going to say that then just go ahead and shut the fuck up because we know when we need gear and when we don't. Everyone's goals aren't the same. My goal right now is to shed body fat and in order to that I have to be in a caloric deficit, but I don't want to sacrifice my muscle, so what do you do? You introduce AAS to preserve lean body mass. 100% what it is meant for.


Heaven fucking forbid I skipped legs one day and half assed an upper body workout because I knew I'd be hitting the same muscle group harder the next day. Don't act like you've never cheated your diet or skipped on a workout. You are one pathetic fuck.
 
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