Please help with 1st time cycle

[Nelson Montana]

i Want to grow muscle i will keep. and i have grown. I went from 144 too 202 but now that ive lost my fat i about 185. But ive lost alot of strengh. I want to to steroids to gain strengh back fast, and gain muscle without getting really fat.

You'll just lose it once you get off. But I know that isn't what you want to hear.

 

[beforeiwassam]

I would run Testosterone 400MG weekly and Deca 300MG weekly for 10 weeks. Low dose of Arimidex .25 every 3 .

PCT Nolvadex 20 mg's every day 2 weeks after your last injection

I did this one. Gained 25 pounds in 10 weeks and kept about 17 used nolva though..I would use eq instead of the deca....

Sam

 

[Fatboy1984]

so its lookin like alot of you arent too big on deca. how come? Ill look into EQ.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Anyone know where i can purchase quality gear from too?

Ahhhhhh....and there it is

 

[Fatboy1984]

Maybe i should just do the deca week 1-6 and than start tren 7-10.

 

[00pump]

why not just take single test, I love what test cypionate does to me. Its dirt cheap and friends of mine sometimes jab 200mg a week of that only and grow MASSSIVE. I don't like deca either and won't use it... Id rather use EQ over deca... Lower dose of test you dont bloat and you keep your gains... When I started juice I was around 6% bodyfat, first cycle Depo Test, 200mg a week, added around 10kgs and kept 8kgs and moved to around 6.7% bodyfat.....

I'm not a fan of high ammounts of gear, because once you go to those levels your body allways wants more...just take it easy, its much easier to add some that to take some out

 

[Fatboy1984]

Maybe just test for the whole time and then tren for the last 4-5 weeks. I would like to come off of this being somwhat cut. First have i can eat a ton to try and bulk up. towards week 5-6 i can start to taper off alittle. I dont know. Everything is up in the air. From what ive read on Deca it seems to be great. But know one that actually uses steroids likes it. So im thinkin i should maybe stay away from it.

 

[HAYEZ]

Well I go against the low dosers and say 500 test,400 deca test 12 weeks deca 10 weeks

Have on hand
Caber for the deca .25mg e3d if needed
Adex for the test .25 mg eod if needed

Don't take nolva during cycle

Pct start 11 days after last test shot
Nolva 60mg 7 days
Nolva 40mg 14 days

 

[Fatboy1984]

So you like DECA huh.. Is there any reason why most people on here dont? Is it cause the sides or what? it sounds good to me on papor but i obviously havnt had experience with it.

 

[HAYEZ]

Because a lot of people are to ignorant to take the right meds to counter the sides of it. deca is a great drug for mass but people don't run it properly then cry because of the sides.

You take adex cause u don't want tits with test. You take caber so ur dick works on deca. Very simple and it can be cycled safely with great results