Please help with 1st time cycle

[Fatboy1984]

Im 24 years old 5.9 185 pounds. Eat super clean. and been doing all this for about 2 years consistanly. I will never stop lifting. Ive takin alittle bit of M1T and have got descent gains from it in the past. Besides that i have never takin or cycled any injectables.
I would like to be in the 190-200 pound range with as low of BF as possible. and also gain as much strench as possible.
Im thinkin about an 8-10 week cycle of sustanon 250 and Deca-Durobolin
Maybe once a week injections of 300mg (unless it would be better too cut them in half and do twice a week)
And for the deca i was thinkin i should start at 100mg per week and work my way up too 300-400 on week 4 and than taper back down again.
I will for sure have Nolva on hand if i feel nipple soreness.
And will take clomid for my PCT afterwards. I will also be eating about 4000 cals of clean healthy food lots of protien. Hoping that i can gain with this but not get to fat.

My questions are. Doesn anyone see anything wrong with this cycle? Im alittle nervous about it.
Do you think ill have to take the nolva? what percentage of you guys start to have signs of Gyno?
Im not going to be a lifelong user. I just would like to get a certain way and maintain as much muscle and strenth as possible. From my research it looks like i can keep majority of my gains from these two steroids.
Also would anyone recomend, just injecting the sustanon 250, and just using orral deca?
Last question, where is the safest place i can order good quality gear and seringes from, with nolva and clomid. I would like to make my order from the same place. And want high quality gear.
Sorry for all the questions. I really appreciate anyone who takes the time to help me out here.

 

[2evil]

How old are you?

 

[EZ_E]

There's a few changes I'd make but 1st, ^^^^^ age?

 

[Fatboy1984]

sorry im 24

 

[eClenbuterol]

I would run Testosterone 400MG weekly and Deca 300MG weekly for 10 weeks. Low dose of Arimidex .25 every 3 .

PCT Nolvadex 20 mg's every day 2 weeks after your last injection

 

[Fatboy1984]

so just start with 300 of deca. You dont think theres any reason to work my way up? You think nolva is better for PCT than clomid? Even if there is no nipple soreness or signs of gyno, you think i should still take arimidex .25 every third day?
Just want to make sure im doing everything right And id like to make this order asap once i know how much of everything i need.
Thanks for your help

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'd never use deca.


Here's a challenge. Take this every day...

4 caps of Beastdrol

6 caps of UNLEASHED

2 caps 19-Tren

Two servings of BIG BLAST

6 hard boiled eggs

If you're training is on point, you can put on 10 pounds of muscle in 2 months.

Now I ask you this -- do you want to grow? Or do you just want to do steroids?

 

[Fatboy1984]

i Want to grow muscle i will keep. and i have grown. I went from 144 too 202 but now that ive lost my fat i about 185. But ive lost alot of strengh. I want to to steroids to gain strengh back fast, and gain muscle without getting really fat.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

No theres no need to taper. If your dead set on test AND deca, why not 300 test/200 deca? More isnt better. Especially for a first timer. You will grow off whatever you use at whatever dose as long as you eat and train correctly. Alot of people seem to think nowadays that even 200mg/wk of something like cyp is a total waste. I seem to remember using that dose 10 years ago and growing from it.

 

[Fatboy1984]

Awsome. Im not dead set on sus and deca. But it sounded good to me. Also seems that with these two the gains are alittle more solid than some others. also seems if the test dries out my joints it sounds like the deca might help. Im tempted to try tren too though. But it seems like with these two i should get where i want. Im open to other opinions though. Where do you think the calories should be if im triing to gain weight, but not get fat? i was thinkin 4000, Does that sound about right, do you think i could gain weight, withough gaining fat?

 

[Nelson Montana]

i Want to grow muscle i will keep. and i have grown. I went from 144 too 202 but now that ive lost my fat i about 185. But ive lost alot of strengh. I want to to steroids to gain strengh back fast, and gain muscle without getting really fat.

You'll just lose it once you get off. But I know that isn't what you want to hear.

 

[beforeiwassam]

I would run Testosterone 400MG weekly and Deca 300MG weekly for 10 weeks. Low dose of Arimidex .25 every 3 .

PCT Nolvadex 20 mg's every day 2 weeks after your last injection

I did this one. Gained 25 pounds in 10 weeks and kept about 17 used nolva though..I would use eq instead of the deca....

Sam

 

[Fatboy1984]

so its lookin like alot of you arent too big on deca. how come? Ill look into EQ.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Anyone know where i can purchase quality gear from too?

Ahhhhhh....and there it is

 

[Fatboy1984]

Maybe i should just do the deca week 1-6 and than start tren 7-10.

 

[00pump]

why not just take single test, I love what test cypionate does to me. Its dirt cheap and friends of mine sometimes jab 200mg a week of that only and grow MASSSIVE. I don't like deca either and won't use it... Id rather use EQ over deca... Lower dose of test you dont bloat and you keep your gains... When I started juice I was around 6% bodyfat, first cycle Depo Test, 200mg a week, added around 10kgs and kept 8kgs and moved to around 6.7% bodyfat.....

I'm not a fan of high ammounts of gear, because once you go to those levels your body allways wants more...just take it easy, its much easier to add some that to take some out

 

[Fatboy1984]

Maybe just test for the whole time and then tren for the last 4-5 weeks. I would like to come off of this being somwhat cut. First have i can eat a ton to try and bulk up. towards week 5-6 i can start to taper off alittle. I dont know. Everything is up in the air. From what ive read on Deca it seems to be great. But know one that actually uses steroids likes it. So im thinkin i should maybe stay away from it.

 

[HAYEZ]

Well I go against the low dosers and say 500 test,400 deca test 12 weeks deca 10 weeks

Have on hand
Caber for the deca .25mg e3d if needed
Adex for the test .25 mg eod if needed

Don't take nolva during cycle

Pct start 11 days after last test shot
Nolva 60mg 7 days
Nolva 40mg 14 days

 

[Fatboy1984]

So you like DECA huh.. Is there any reason why most people on here dont? Is it cause the sides or what? it sounds good to me on papor but i obviously havnt had experience with it.

 

[HAYEZ]

Because a lot of people are to ignorant to take the right meds to counter the sides of it. deca is a great drug for mass but people don't run it properly then cry because of the sides.

You take adex cause u don't want tits with test. You take caber so ur dick works on deca. Very simple and it can be cycled safely with great results

 

[Fatboy1984]

thanks for the info man. so with adex and caber i wont get gyno or other sides (im mostly worried about gyno). what do you like to take for PCT to solidify your gains? I want to keep as much as possible. what did you do for your first cycle? I would love to try tren towards the end of a cycle, it sounds amazing, but i think its a bit much for a first cycle...
BTW.. your pic in your avatar is nuts, the vascularity in your shoulder looks awsome