PIC as of 03-10-05

[silverbackn]

Lift then cardio. When you lift at a high intensity you deplete your glycogen stores, which will in turn allow your body to burn more fats as fuel when you do your cardio. If you do cardio first you will deplete your glycogen and then your weight training will suffer. There is a ton of debate over high intensity or low intensity cardio. High intensity is the way to go in my book! Hit it hard and your body will change!

 

[TheRide]

I always hit cardio first. More b/c I won't do it after weights and also b/c of a theory that I read debating that cardio --> weights build muscle endurance. Just my $0.02

 

[swordfish151]

I always hit cardio first. More b/c I won't do it after weights and also b/c of a theory that I read debating that cardio --> weights build muscle endurance. Just my $0.02

Can you expand on what you read bro? i have the same problem, i know that if i do cardio first then I WILL do it...and wont miss my lifting routine

 

[roidpuple]

Lift then cardio. When you lift at a high intensity you deplete your glycogen stores, which will in turn allow your body to burn more fats as fuel when you do your cardio. If you do cardio first you will deplete your glycogen and then your weight training will suffer. There is a ton of debate over high intensity or low intensity cardio. High intensity is the way to go in my book! Hit it hard and your body will change!

I agree with this...
why would you want to do cardio 1st?? just do a little warm up..
then hit the weights.. doing cardio 1st will just make you tired
and you will not be able to do you weight training at maxium intestity..
but lifting 1st will not effect your cardio... and it sets you up.. as you should already be tired.. and hight good heart rate going..

 

[Stacemranger]

HIIT is the most effective form of fat burning cardio. It will blast it away.

 

[swordfish151]

In a netshell, I have a better time cutting with less shakes and ore fiverous veggies/whole foods..simply because they hold me over longer. When bulking, they are a great way to add cals to meals yet not feel crazy stuffed.



so,in a quick nutshell, I would:
wake - eca, 30 minutes light jog, incline walk, 65-75max hr

1 hour later

meal 1: 6am - HAVE MEAL 8AM HERE

8am - 6 scrammbled eggs (1 whole) 1 piece 100% whole wheat toast
NEW 1/2 CUP OATS, 1 SCOOP CASEIN PROTEIN, OR 1 CUP SKIM

1030 - protien shake HAME MEAL 1PM HERE

130pm - 4 pieces of BONELESS SKINLESS CHX BREAST, 1/2 cup brown rice, LARGE SALAD, TB OF FLAX w/veggies

430pm - 1 APPLE, 1 CAN TUNA

630 - 745 - TRAIN WITHOUT PWO shake

745, 50G OF WHEY, BCAA, CREATINE, 25G FROM DEXT...

(SOME WILL SAY YOU NEED A CARB MEAL HERE.....I DONT AGREE WHEN CUTTING

10pm - 2TB OF ANPB OR 30 PEANUTS. CAN OF TUNA OR CASEIN SHAKE
BED

THIS IS M-F

SAT. HAVE THE SAME, BUT GO OUT TO DINNER WITH THE GIRL AND FORGET "DIET" FOR A FEW HOURS

SUNDAY - BACK ON TRACK...........GL BRO

Thats great kurz!!!! Let me re-write this and see if i got it right

wake- ECA (any recommendations here?? i can get ephedra legally, so was thinking of stacking it with some other fat burner?) - 30 minute jog w/incline walk (for how long on the incline walk?)

meal 1: 6 scrammbled eggs (1whole) w/1 piece 100% whole wheat toast
meal 2: 1/2 cup oats, 1 scoop casein protein, or 1 cup skim (im not understanding this part..is this a shake? or are you saying to drink 1 cup of sim milk? thought milk was a no no when dieting?)
meal 3: protein shake (is the shake needed here?? seems like alot of food?) w/4 pieces of bonless skinless chicken breasts, 1/2 cup brown rice, large salad, TB of flax w/veggies (i have flax pills ...gels)
meal 4: 1 can tuna w/1 apple
!TRAIN!
meal 5: 50g of whey, BCAA (recommendations..lost here too), Creatine?? (doesnt creatine make you retain water?) 25g from Dext?? (i was going to order dextrose to add to my shake from protein factory..is this a good idea)
meal 6: 2TB of ANPB, can of tuna
!BED!

Program is Monday - Sunday w/the exception of saturday night dinner...do i need to do the casein shake or can i sub it with the whey shake...if not, then what are some good casein shake recommendations...What is the calorie break down on this?

 

[JKurz1]

I read it all bro...........everything from mens health to flex to anobolics 2005.......

 

[swordfish151]

I read it all bro...........everything from mens health to flex to anobolics 2005.......

did you read the updates and questions on my last post bro?

 

[swordfish151]

did you read the updates and questions on my last post bro?

^

 

[Fukkenshredded]

If you want to lose the fat just add an hour of incline walking on the treadmill at 4 mph/steepest incline every morning.

Do 30 min before you lift and 30 min after you lift, every day.

Also, do your workout on an empty stomach. Maybe a platinum member can find the post where I debated this with Nelson Montana. He eventually ran out of logic and the post went to shit, but it is an informative thread, as well as an entertaining one.

FS