PIC as of 03-10-05

[bicepts101]

If you want to lose the fat just add an hour of incline walking on the treadmill at 4 mph/steepest incline every morning.

Do 30 min before you lift and 30 min after you lift, every day.

Also, do your workout on an empty stomach. Maybe a platinum member can find the post where I debated this with Nelson Montana. He eventually ran out of logic and the post went to shit, but it is an informative thread, as well as an entertaining one.

FS

is this it?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=247580

 

[JKurz1]

No respect to anyone, and I'm not here to start a flame war, but my opinions differ slightly. Thats all they are, opinions and theories. I, for one, would NEVER train on an empty tank and/or do cardio before I trained. Plain and simple. I do agree that cardio on an empty tank is fantastic for losing weight and so is training before a meal, but when the body has no glycogen, nutrients to utilize during intense training, guess what it will use first(before fat....) MUSCLE....

Just do cardio as soon as you wake.....shower, get dressed, and eat your 1st of 2 carb meals with protein (2nd being PW).........see where you get. If we need to adjust later, so be it. Jus sustain 65-75 max hr for a good 30 mins to start out...but up according to progress (or lack there of.....)

 

[roidpuple]

why would U want food in your stomach while you are exercising??
forcing your body to try and digest food while it is doing other things..
when exercising it fires up your sympathic nerves system any way..

 

[soflaguy]

Nothing better then a pic to CHECK you back to reality...need honest constructive critiques....5'6, 215lbs, 18% BF 26 years old. I really need to get my BF down...looking at yourself in the mirror while training or after is all great..but when you take a pic...hits you like a ton of BRICKS...so much work to do...here is a question...and i know this has been debated before...cardio then lift or lift then cardio...right now..im looking to loose BF...going to up the cardio to 45 min a day...I cannot...repeat CANNOT split the cardio and lifting scessions...so recommendations? Diet is key...started a diet log...will post what i got in a few...only got one pic on here so far...posting more..just notices title..pics as of 04-10-05. sorry

http://img51.exs.cx/gal.php?g=000027029fx.jpg

Over a 1000+ posts, and an EF member looks like this?? Not bashing the guy as he is looking politely looking for advice. However, I can't imagine this guy has down any legitimate cycles as he has absolutely no pectoral development. He obviously does not even know the basics of training and diet, let alone give us advice about atheltic performance substances. 15 minutes of high-intensity cardio to get up the heart-rate and then maintain a HIT workout for 40 minutes would show a significant improvement. You should be walking out of that gym exhausted and soaked in sweat.
You don't train hard and it is that simple.

 

[swordfish151]

Over a 1000+ posts, and an EF member looks like this?? Not bashing the guy as he is looking politely looking for advice. However, I can't imagine this guy has down any legitimate cycles as he has absolutely no pectoral development. He obviously does not even know the basics of training and diet, let alone give us advice about atheltic performance substances. 15 minutes of high-intensity cardio to get up the heart-rate and then maintain a HIT workout for 40 minutes would show a significant improvement. You should be walking out of that gym exhausted and soaked in sweat.
You don't train hard and it is that simple.

I respect your opinion bro. That is why im on this site...but what i do speak about is stuff that i have learned from research..that is what we do here right..help one another.....thanks for your advice. But since i posted pics...lets see what you got?

 

[azul]

why would U want food in your stomach while you are exercising??
forcing your body to try and digest food while it is doing other things..
when exercising it fires up your sympathic nerves system any way..

The answer is quite simple. Your body likes fat more than it likes muscle. Muscle is metabolically active and takes calories to maintain, whereas fat just sits there doing nothing. Our bodies are extremely efficient, and they try to maintain homeostasis if possible. All that muscle we have (or would like to have) isn't natural, per se, and your body doesn't like it because it burns too many calories.

Back in the day, we would feast for weeks and then fast for months. How did our body survive when there wasn't enough food? By storing fat when there was enough food, to keep us alive when we couldn't find any. Unfortunately, our bodies have not changed.

Try this... gain 20 lbs of muscle. Stop working out. After half a year, you will have lost a fair amount, if not all, of that muscle. On the other hand, your adipose tissue will probably have remained the same, or even grown.

When you do cardio on an empty stomach, your body will use both fat, muscle and any available carbohydrates. Since muscle is metabolically active tissue, and it's really doing nothing but putting extra stress on your body (as in, it needs more calories), your body will use it for energy. Muscle gives more energy than fat does, and ultimately, burning muscle will allow the body to go back to a state where it does not need as many calories to maintain anything more than the minimum amount it needs to exist.

So when you give the body some carbs and protein in the morning before cardio (just around 20-30g each), you'll save your muscle. In the end (assuming the right macronutrient ratios), as long as calories in=calories out, bodymass is maintained. So it doesn't matter whether you eat a bit before running... you'll burn those calories anyway if you keep a good diet.

 

[Synpax]

One really easy step is to stop drinking alcohol.

Maybe a clen/t3 cycle would help, too.

 

[roidpuple]

The answer is quite simple. Your body likes fat more than it likes muscle. Muscle is metabolically active and takes calories to maintain, whereas fat just sits there doing nothing. Our bodies are extremely efficient, and they try to maintain homeostasis if possible. All that muscle we have (or would like to have) isn't natural, per se, and your body doesn't like it because it burns too many calories.

Back in the day, we would feast for weeks and then fast for months. How did our body survive when there wasn't enough food? By storing fat when there was enough food, to keep us alive when we couldn't find any. Unfortunately, our bodies have not changed.

Try this... gain 20 lbs of muscle. Stop working out. After half a year, you will have lost a fair amount, if not all, of that muscle. On the other hand, your adipose tissue will probably have remained the same, or even grown.

When you do cardio on an empty stomach, your body will use both fat, muscle and any available carbohydrates. Since muscle is metabolically active tissue, and it's really doing nothing but putting extra stress on your body (as in, it needs more calories), your body will use it for energy. Muscle gives more energy than fat does, and ultimately, burning muscle will allow the body to go back to a state where it does not need as many calories to maintain anything more than the minimum amount it needs to exist.

So when you give the body some carbs and protein in the morning before cardio (just around 20-30g each), you'll save your muscle. In the end (assuming the right macronutrient ratios), as long as calories in=calories out, bodymass is maintained. So it doesn't matter whether you eat a bit before running... you'll burn those calories anyway if you keep a good diet.

it just doens not seem right to have your body digesting food.. causing more blood to go to the digestive system.. while you are trying to exercise..
and more blood is needed in other areas?? .. like your legs..
plus it increase the chance of stomach cramps.. am I off here?

 

[BOOEY]

is this it?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=247580

Nice find. Damn I wish non-plats could use the search

 

[swordfish151]

Nice find. Damn I wish non-plats could use the search

yeah so far this is really informative!