Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I dont think it's worth trying to lose weight without juicing.
overweight newbs. read this.
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The general concensus and culture of this board appears to ne that fat-burning is a relatively advanced use of aas, and is not an appropriate use of aas for a first cycle. aas are complex and there is a lot one needs to know to use them safely / correctly / appropriately.
I think the general concensus is newbies should do a couple of "normal" bread-and-butter cycles with PCT and have that experience before trying tricky, more advanced stuff with aas.
I think the general concensus is newbies should do a couple of "normal" bread-and-butter cycles with PCT and have that experience before trying tricky, more advanced stuff with aas.
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hammercurls said:
That's an insanely ludicrous statement, so you're telling me a guy at 30% bodyfat should be starting Steroids!? come on
Making these recommendations is irresponsible and idiotic, as some newbies will take this seriously. Only a fool would start steroids at ANY bodyfat %. Some people will just never learn.
Mr.X said:That's an insanely ludicrous statement, so you're telling me a guy at 30% bodyfat should be starting Steroids!? come on
Making these recommendations is irresponsible and idiotic, as some newbies will take this seriously. Only a fool would start steroids at ANY bodyfat %. Some people will just never learn.
Come on one extreme would be 30% and the other would be 8%. Like it was said above power lifters are big guys and arent lean at all. Besides no one with real gym time under their belt is going to be 30% body fat anyway.
I say no less than 4 years of real gym time consistant and hitting it hard clean.
When I was 18 I lost a lot of weight (325-225) and I did it with cardio, ECA (way to much) and a very restricted diet. After that I learnt how to eat properly and in the next two years lost another % of bf and gained LBM... I went to university and lived in rez first year where I met my lifting buddies and lifted 4-5 days a week... (not much cardio but such is rez) that year i gained a bit of fat but a ton of muscle.... I have also in the last year done 2 cycles and am currently on my third... however nothing can replace those first critical years of lifting where your body is SOOOOO responsive to food and hard work, sure it's a bit slower, but it's natural, and side effect free! Nobody with less than 2 years lifting should be hitting crank... I guess i'm just glad i did things somewhat naturally to see what i was able to do completly on my own with diet and training.
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ap282 said:
It's not an extereme, I've seen people do that; in fact, many times. It's based on their ignorance. I hope some people read my posts here:
"10% bodyfat, over 26years old and have at least 10 years of training"
This should be a sticky!Mr.X said:
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Just to add, steroids are not the solution to weight loss problems nor weight gain problems. Just because you're skinny or fat, it doesn't mean you need to start using steroids. Steroids are not magic!
I don't want anybody reading this to think steroids can solve your weight loss problems! They cannot and should not be used in lieu of a diet and cardio.
People that misuse steroids and misunderstand them, basically using them without knowledge, are the same people that show up in news stories claiming it made them try to commit suicide.
I don't want anybody reading this to think steroids can solve your weight loss problems! They cannot and should not be used in lieu of a diet and cardio.
People that misuse steroids and misunderstand them, basically using them without knowledge, are the same people that show up in news stories claiming it made them try to commit suicide.
