Ok to switch from cypionate to sustanon mid-cycle?

[Necromancer44]

Is it ok to switch from testosterone cypionate to sustanon mid-cycle?

How will my test blood levels change if I take the same dose?

 

[wolfman87]

i think it should be alright. going from long to short or a mix like sustanon should be a lil easier than going from short to long. test is test really, some just take longer than others.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

you've got injtect sust 2-3x a week to actually use the prop in it!

 

[eClenbuterol]

you've got injtect sust 2-3x a week to actually use the prop in it!

Yep EOD

 

[burnthiscorpse]

amen....I'm going from short to long right now. Its a pain in the ass. I am however getting about 1000mg of test each week right now during the changeover with both long and short combined. lol

 

[Necromancer44]

i think it should be alright. going from long to short or a mix like sustanon should be a lil easier than going from short to long. test is test really, some just take longer than others.

Why is going from short to long more difficult?

 

[Bigpimpin10]

it will take awhile to kick in bro..

 

[timtim]

definately do eod injects or blood levels will be off.

 

[Nelson Montana]

This isn't much of a concern. Since blood levels are up anyway, the fluctuation won't make much difference in terms of results.

What does everyone think the results of going from a ng level of 4000 to 2500 would be? Likely, nothing.

And for the millionth time, enth does not take that long to "kick in". It's less tha 24 hours. Prop is simply a shorter acting ester that has a bit more biuoavailability but people have a problem with that concept. They keep thinking of it as acting immediately wheres long acting esters take weeks to begin working and that simply is not true.

 

[HAYEZ]

test e takes about 6 weeks for me to feel effects...prop week...i would say e does not kick in right away

 

[Nelson Montana]

test e takes about 6 weeks for me to feel effects...prop week...i would say e does not kick in right away

Then you would be wrong. You're going by "feel" and it isn't an accurate or scientific gauge. But you don't have to believe me. Take a blood test 24 hours after injecting enth. Levels will be elevated. That means it's "KICKED IN."

 

[timtim]

This isn't much of a concern. Since blood levels are up anyway, the fluctuation won't make much difference in terms of results.

What does everyone think the results of going from a ng level of 4000 to 2500 would be? Likely, nothing.

And for the millionth time, enth does not take that long to "kick in". It's less tha 24 hours. Prop is simply a shorter acting ester that has a bit more biuoavailability but people have a problem with that concept. They keep thinking of it as acting immediately wheres long acting esters take weeks to begin working and that simply is not true.

switching from test e to sus is what kicked off my first ever gyno situation. blood level fluctuations, even with the blood at that high of a concentration, could cause gyno, acne, and all the other pain the ass sides asssociated with test.

 

[Nelson Montana]

switching from test e to sus is what kicked off my first ever gyno situation. blood level fluctuations, even with the blood at that high of a concentration, could cause gyno, acne, and all the other pain the ass sides asssociated with test.[/QUOT

Aromatization was most likely the cause. It just happens at a point when you were making the switch, unless you just made a huge leap in dosage.

 

[timtim]

switching from test e to sus is what kicked off my first ever gyno situation. blood level fluctuations, even with the blood at that high of a concentration, could cause gyno, acne, and all the other pain the ass sides asssociated with test.[/QUOT

Aromatization was most likely the cause. It just happens at a point when you were making the switch, unless you just made a huge leap in dosage.

no change in dose. that was the first time i ever experienced gyno or acne from gear. since then, i am way more prone to both now.

 

[Nelson Montana]

no change in dose. that was the first time i ever experienced gyno or acne from gear. since then, i am way more prone to both now.

If your dose didn't change then how can there be fluctuations? If the prop dropped you down to below 100 ngs and it took a few days for the get you back to around 1000ngs that still seems unlikely to cause gyno unless you're extremely sensitive or your e was way out of whack at the time. Impossible to tell because there are so many variables.

Enth DOES NOT take weeks to "kick in." That's just ridiculous. It may take a while to see results and prop may give a bit more of a "rush" but the difference is neglegible in regard to the state of anabolism and androgen level.

 

[timtim]

If your dose didn't change then how can there be fluctuations? If the prop dropped you down to below 100 ngs and it took a few days for the get you back to around 1000ngs that still seems unlikely to cause gyno unless you're extremely sensitive or your e was way out of whack at the time. Impossible to tell because there are so many variables.

Enth DOES NOT take weeks to "kick in." That's just ridiculous. It may take a while to see results and prop may give a bit more of a "rush" but the difference is neglegible in regard to the state of anabolism and androgen level.

i cant explain the why, only what happened when that one variable changed. without bloodwork theres no answer. it just happened.

 

[HAYEZ]

Then you would be wrong. You're going by "feel" and it isn't an accurate or scientific gauge. But you don't have to believe me. Take a blood test 24 hours after injecting enth. Levels will be elevated. That means it's "KICKED IN."

when i see results is when i consider them working

 

[Nelson Montana]

when i see results is when i consider them working

I know what you mean. But you don't see instant results with prop, right?

 

[Bigpimpin10]

I know what you mean. But you don't see instant results with prop, right?

i go by when i feel the pump

 

[HAYEZ]

I know what you mean. But you don't see instant results with prop, right?

prop my shoulders and traps start filling out the first week..test e takes 4-6 weeks for some reason

 

[Unit 2005]

Yes you can switch. Would have been better other way around though.

you've got injtect sust 2-3x a week to actually use the prop in it!

Why does everyone on here think this? In theory its correct but not at these dosages. If you are susing 500mg of sustanon a week, the prop ester wont really do anything for your muscle building quest. In this case you are probably better suited to enthante or cypionate. Sustanon has 30mg of test prop out of its 250mg test blend. The biggest proportion is 100mg of test deconate which is the same length as cypionate and enthanate. The only way you are going to get the benifits of the short ester in sust is if you are using 1000mg minimum a week - 500mg monday, 500mg 4-5 days later. better still 500mg monday/wednesday/friday giving you 1500mg a week. This is a good way to front load a long estered test cycle by the way. 2-3 weeks as mentioned, then switching to cyp/enth. Same principal with testoviron.

 

[Pavel95]

I have been switching from sp cypionate to sustanon for two weeks.