OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of the

[Raina]

I'm all about a woman having the right to choose but 5? Seriously, it's not that hard not to get pregnant. That's screwed up.

 

[Dial_tone]

I'm pro-choice but if you have more than 1-2 abortions you need to be neutered or something because you obviously have a problem.

 

[Lady Viking]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

I'm all about a woman having the right to choose but 5? Seriously, it's not that hard not to get pregnant. That's screwed up.

agreed

 

[Extra_Strong]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

Thank you for the thoughtful response.

It is some say, born with a "Tabula Rasa" in essence, a blank slate, my archnemisis Lestat and I have had great discussions on this about circumcision and pain.
But, what is knowing nothing. Is that the ultimate innocent that should be protected> isnt it true, the more one learns, the less innocent they become. The ultimate act of justice would be to protect not harm the innocent more than protecting a jaded childmolestor.

To think of a baby in the womb as nothing means a dereliction of duty some could argue. It is the most delicate and fragile of life. But, it is alive. Some argue their is a soul, when does that become valid?? When does the Constitution of the United States kick in and give them rights, human rights? These are the questions I raise. Note, there is no right or wrong answer to this.
This is a question of human rights, not a question of choice in this discussion. Framing it as a choice question> Well the man on the street hears more choices then, well who cant be in favor of that??

The moral and ethical discussion is but what I am trying to draw out. If I was to say to a woman, Hey, your baby looks just like Brad Pitt and then dollar signs form in her eyes and decides not to have an abortion but to raise a child actor. How is that appropriate??? If I was Pro-life and hated seeing lives taken for reasons viewed as more important, wouldnt that practitioner always say "Hey, looks like Brad Pitt". Seems ridiculous argument and I dont work in obstretics except for occassionally with heart malformations but BF Skinner would say that behaviorism. Rewarding statements influences the person who utters the statements as well.

A classic example was a professor who discounted behaviorism, well Skinner got together with students of his class and every time he walked into a certain spot, his students were(by experiment design) to reward him with smiles and open eyes and questions. By the end of the semester. He spoke 95% of the time from that spot.

See,, the point is ZEN

my since of reasoning starts out. with.. If i would have been aborted what would of changed or what harm would this of caused me? Well none
i would have never known. quite simple.

So If I realize this for myself how can it be wrong?
I was circumcised and I do not remember that, and that shit had to be painful
and torture like.

So then I think. What if they would of cut off my Arm, Leg, ect…
Now these things my cause me social problems and I would develop a blame system or feel cheated.

I just see it as for me is all the trouble with it, is that it is thought of as murder. A person may have a better life without this child. My getting rid of it who does it really hurt? I am saying it would of not hurt me. But this is just my understanding and I am relating it to my circumcision. I also think people don’t think about it I mean really think about. From different angles.. they just develop a feeling and try to hold on to it never questioning why they feel that way. “They just do” or “It just doesn’t feel right”

Does anyone think if they would have been aborted that it would have been devastating?
My mother was 16 when she had me. If I would have been her parent I would of tried to get her to do it.

Don’t get me wrong I love myself I am not depressed. I am not saying I wish I would of never lived. But the reality of it is that I would of never know!!

 

[velvett]

This isn't the issue of abortion it's about an utter lack of responsibility and respect.

 

[gotmilk]

5 reasons females should believe in blow jobs.

 

[Extra_Strong]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

That is a very slippery slope. Should we just kill all children before the age of reason to ensure thier beatitude? That's just horrific. I am pro-responsibility. If you did not take the measures of proper birth control, then you should live with the consequences of said actions

Tolkein said it best.


"Many that die deserved life, can you give it to them?"

does this refer to Aids.? or STD's
U dumb fuck you should of ware a condom so now you deserve it.
but I got lucky and fucked a girl that was clean I took a chance and got lucky.
so it would seem like i should have aids too. I mean i was not responsible.

but i should of got aid. It would of served me right for not being responsible?

Being responsible has to many ups and downs. Can you be to responsible? I think if you were you many never leave the house because you would be checking everything all the time. Or before you drove you would have to check the tired and double check them. U don’t want to hit someone because your tire blew out right? I mean it would be your fault because you did not get it fixed or check. So if you did kill someone It would be your fault and you should go to prison for life for being irresponsible right??


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[samoth]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

good, population control

shit I'm wasted

fuck you god.

TITCR

 

[Snypr]

Damn, that's excessive.
Somebody needs counseling. (but I guess in her case it's probably useless).

 

[redguru]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

does this refer to Aids.? or STD's
U dumb fuck you should of ware a condom so now you deserve it.
but I got lucky and fucked a girl that was clean I took a chance and got lucky.
so it would seem like i should have aids too. I mean i was not responsible.

but i should of got aid. It would of served me right for not being responsible?

Being responsible has to many ups and downs. Can you be to responsible? I think if you were you many never leave the house because you would be checking everything all the time. Or before you drove you would have to check the tired and double check them. U don’t want to hit someone because your tire blew out right? I mean it would be your fault because you did not get it fixed or check. So if you did kill someone It would be your fault and you should go to prison for life for being irresponsible right??


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Any action that you undertake bears your responsibility. Driving that car is your responsibility as is the maintenance of it, so you would be responsible for the financial repercussions of the accidental death. Any action also bears risk, and you have to weigh risk vs reward and side with whichever side suits you best.

I want a piece of ass, so I guess I will forgo the contraceptive? That argument has a logical fallacy because the risk of permanent detrimental outcomes outweighs the single night of reward. This argument also bears fruit with the STD's. The main moral breakdown in America today is the lack of personal responsibility. This has nothing to do with religion or a god.