Obama Lays-Out $1.5T in New Taxes

[Mr. dB]

Obama draws battle line over $1.5T in tax hikes - CBS News

Just the threat of that should freeze the economy for the next one or two years.

Maybe conservatives should give him free reign to increase taxes more like $3T and see how that works out.

Good times.

Returning to the same tax rates as the last time America was still prosperous? How is that a problem?

 

[75th]

Returning to the same tax rates as the last time America was still prosperous? How is that a problem?

lol @ this freezing the economy.

Maybe Paul Ryan is right...we should just increase the taxes on the middle class?

 

[75th]

Your correct however instead of going along with the same routine of every other president, he made promises that he would not do the same thing as presidents in the past and he has increased the national debt and is now raising taxes. My point is we need to elect a CEO to run this country not another LAWYER with no business experience.

Last I checked, when running a nation one of the least of your concerns should be increasing the bottom line for shareholders.

 

[bren565]

Last I checked, when running a nation one of the least of your concerns should be increasing the bottom line for shareholders.

shareholders are the american people so yeah actually it would be a pretty good fuckin idea.

also just a thought, how is increasing the deficit going to help anyone? i mean i never understood this, im sure some keynesiest can step in and explain how increasing agregate expenditure artificially through infrastructure spending actually helps people?


when clearly investment and growth via savings are imperative to growth....

i mean, spending isnt everything... especialyl on things that the gov forces the spending on? only to cause a bubble and have it collapse, yeah that makes fucking sense, in canada up here, we are becoming more business savy, and its helping everyone, mixing socialism with liberty doesnt fucking work, infact it makes the liberty look like it doesnt work!

its an infectious culture that is killing your economy, look at europe.. socialism doesnt FUCKING WORK. its finally caught up to the older generations, they are the ones to blame.


rant over.

 

[-SD-]

If "no new taxes" sunk Bush Sr., i wonder how this will affect obama

 

[PICK3]

If "no new taxes" sunk Bush Sr., i wonder how this will affect obama

Barry's platform = no new taxes (except for Plunkey)

 

[EnderJE]

shareholders are the american people so yeah actually it would be a pretty good fuckin idea.

also just a thought, how is increasing the deficit going to help anyone? i mean i never understood this, im sure some keynesiest can step in and explain how increasing agregate expenditure artificially through infrastructure spending actually helps people?


when clearly investment and growth via savings are imperative to growth....

i mean, spending isnt everything... especialyl on things that the gov forces the spending on? only to cause a bubble and have it collapse, yeah that makes fucking sense, in canada up here, we are becoming more business savy, and its helping everyone, mixing socialism with liberty doesnt fucking work, infact it makes the liberty look like it doesnt work!

its an infectious culture that is killing your economy, look at europe.. socialism doesnt FUCKING WORK. its finally caught up to the older generations, they are the ones to blame.


rant over.

The American people aren't shareholders.

He should have just cut the social spending, deplete the military, and kept healthcare and medicaid; but that would not likely happen because there are special interest groups tied to each one of those things.

 

[bren565]

The American people aren't shareholders.

He should have just cut the social spending, deplete the military, and kept healthcare and medicaid; but that would not likely happen because there are special interest groups tied to each one of those things.

good answers, agreed.

but thats the problem with socialism, it infects and creates an entitlement culture,

 

[javaguru]

Returning to the same tax rates as the last time America was still prosperous? How is that a problem?

I remember the 1990's with our .99 cent gas, Clinton claimed drilling in America was pointless because it wouldn't yield results for a decade and we had really cheap energy, making 65k a year with an MCP in Toledo..that's a 100k+ salary in major metro areas....and the tech bubble...where pets.com was worth more than coca cola.

It ain't the 1990's anymore when China was jockeying for most favored nation trading status, so they could export to the United States, which the Clinton admin gave them along with countless military secrets.....Oh, for the "good old days."

Can I queue up some Queenesryche? It was all the rage in the early 1990's but not so much since...there is a lesson in that....

 

[EnderJE]

good answers, agreed.

but thats the problem with socialism, it infects and creates an entitlement culture,

I don't think that it creates an entitlement culture in the same fashion that I don't see the mass advertising create the consumerism culture. Hells bells! I could start blaming the fat kids on McDonald's and the lending on the banks (vs the ones taking the bad loans), no?



It's a sad state of affairs when the heads are SO polarized where anything that is cut causes people to say that XXX (insert blame group) is the devil / Nazis / terrorists.