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not feeling too good.. how should i change my stack?

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thank you, ive managed to cut the t3 and clen now, although i feel a bit lethargic which is supposedly normal.. anyone know how long itll take for natural thyroid to come back? was only on t3 for 3 weeks
got hold of some anavar, also. so now im using 100mg dbol, 40mg var, 50mg winstrol.. hoping itll be good!

Just Freaking Stop everything now ,because you have no idea what you're doing.Your liver is going to shut down with all of those orals!
 
thank you, ive managed to cut the t3 and clen now, although i feel a bit lethargic which is supposedly normal.. anyone know how long itll take for natural thyroid to come back? was only on t3 for 3 weeks
got hold of some anavar, also. so now im using 100mg dbol, 40mg var, 50mg winstrol.. hoping itll be good!

No it won't. You have stopped the t3 and clen but added yet another oral steroid? Why aren't you listening to anyone here bro? These guys know what they're talking about and you'r just refusing to listen, doing your own thing anyway. We'r telling you to stop, fix up, then start again properly and achieve the results you are after.
 
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age 21 5'7.. 175lbs.. 20% bf *embarressed*

Really, I do not say this to be mean but the honest truth is you have no reason to be on any sort of AAS, legal or otherwise. With your above stats your sporting about 140lbs of lean mass. That on par with someone who has never set foot in a gym or concerned themselves with a diet.

You clearly have not spent the time to dial in training and diet or you would have a much different body composition.

In addition to the that you are taking a silly amount and type of gear and endangering your health. You obviously dont have the knowledge to make gains or control fat so this unneeded risk to your health is just plain stupid. You have to step back and reevaluate your current condition, your goals and your lifestyle and get off all the shit your on before you hurt yourself.
 
someone who knows what they are doing will only take 1 oral at a moderate dose for a short period of time. most pro's only use an oral prior to a contest. oral steriods have a chemical in them so they can pass through the liver and not break the steroid down so it can get into the blood steam. this chemical is EXTREMELY damaging to the liver. amoung many other negative effects that orals do the main problem is that heavy and long use 'WILL' cause tumers in the liver and place you on the list for a liver transplant. the highest 'effective' dose for d-bol is maybe 50mg at the most. anything above 30mg is a waste, kinda like taking to much vitamins, and causes more damage than any good at all. wintrol, whether taken orally or injected, makes a pass through the liver and even though it is a 'mild' steroid in regards to results, that pass through the liver causes as much damage as the d-bol does. the same goes for anavar. so strike 1 is taking far to much d-bol, strike 2 is taking 2 orals and strike 3 is you are far to young and untrained to be using. not even counting the damage you are doing to your liver with just the d-bol alone you are causing so much damage to your young untrained body. ive know of so many young people who abused steriods in there young lives and ended up ruining there lives. example; a friend of mine who i played football with in h.s. has a condition now that the dr. can only describe as M.S. It is not 'officially' m.s. but he has all the symtoms and conditions of m.s. and he is POSITIVE it is due to his heavy use of steroids at such a young age. you are going to permanantly shut down your ability to produce natural test, you will be unable to use synthetic test as your liver/kidneys will be unable to process them and you will never father a child. and this dose not even include your idiotic use of clen and t-3. all you need is 10-15mcg of t-3 to speed up the prcess of protien synthesis as is your reason for use. taking 100mcg a day is a pre contest use and should only be done for minimum days as it not only burns fat but will also burn up your muscle!!! clen is also used for burning fat and using both high dose of t-3 and clen is jacking up your blood pressure which also causes damage to your liver....strike 3-4-5-and 6.....your dead. you are far to ignorant, young, and untrained to be using any of these compounds. keep doing what you are doing and you will cause so much unreversalable damage it will be the most regretable part of your life ever.
 
Yup we have all said it as plainly as we can. Now bro its up to you. How many times do you need to be:smash: hit over the head with this.?
You are putting a razor to your throat.
You are putting pressure on that razor.
You are dragging that razor accross your throat.
We are all telling you to stop right now.
Why wont you listen:confused:
 
thank you, ive managed to cut the t3 and clen now, although i feel a bit lethargic which is supposedly normal.. anyone know how long itll take for natural thyroid to come back? was only on t3 for 3 weeks
got hold of some anavar, also. so now im using 100mg dbol, 40mg var, 50mg winstrol.. hoping itll be good!

Why bother asking for advice if ur not taking it? I've been following this thread for a few days now and I've never seen anything like it, these guys know wtf they're talking about!!! I've been a member for almost a year and I'm just now getting ready to start my first cycle of test, I could just imagine what ur diet looks like, lol.
 
Why bother asking for advice if ur not taking it? I've been following this thread for a few days now and I've never seen anything like it, these guys know wtf they're talking about!!! I've been a member for almost a year and I'm just now getting ready to start my first cycle of test, I could just imagine what ur diet looks like, lol.
truth is, i came for advice really why i was feeling so bad, and judging from replies it was from clen and t3 in there mainly so i droppedit, taking the advice
reason im taking so much despite people advising against it, i generally think if pros can take this amount of gear why cant newbies? nothin special about their organs no? besides im young and such... and about liver issues, im told its okay as long as i watch out for dark urine, yellowing of the skin, at which point i would stop.. eh
the thing that worries me most is the HPTA shutdown.. im totally shutdown at the moment i know it, i have zero sex drive.. which is also putting me off stopping right now.. i just want to get to 200lbs then ill start being more reasonable with dosing... surely this is understandable???
 
i just want to get to 200lbs then ill start being more reasonable with dosing... surely this is understandable???
Drink 1 gallon whole milk a day for the next 12 weeks and you will be at 200lbs. Likely wont be all muscle but neither is 20lbs from the shit your taking if it even gets you that far then the question remains. If you cant add 20lbs on your own without AAS how the heck do you think your going to maintain it when you quite.

On an aside, pros dont take all the orals you do. You seem to be picking and choosing tid bits of what you see to support your fantasies and regardless of what the pros take, they know how to eat and train, you clearly dont by your current body comp.
 
At 40mg dbol I feel like shit too, when i combine it with Clen. Doses around 20-30mg is where I personally need to be to feel ok. 120mg is just insane, you need to stop what you are doing emediately, get on PCT and spend some time learning about what you are doing, I am not half as advanced as most in here, yet I almost choked on my coffee when I read your post. SERIOUSLY!
 
Not gonna read 6 pages of this. HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're the type of person that will dump assloads of shit into their body without even thinking. Jesus frickin wept!

DROP THE CLEN.

DROP THE T3.

DROP EVERYTHING imo.

You have no business using any of these compounds at this point in time.
 
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