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National Football League: NFL Draft 2009
Mark Sanches in second round to Rams than traded to Redskins...any thoughts?
Mark Sanches in second round to Rams than traded to Redskins...any thoughts?
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MsBeverlyHills
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haha.. i think hes totally overrated.
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lartinos
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dirty sanchez will probably make a decent pro
jdynasty
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does it really matter, they have red karma coming their way
I do too but all the USC knob polishers in the NFL seem to disagree. The guy started one year on a team loaded with probably 15-20 future pros in a conference not known for good defense. He's got the physical tools but I don't think he makes good decisions.
MsBeverlyHills
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exactly... and for his own coach, Pete Carrol to diss his decision to go pro prob doesnt help. He shouldve finished @ USC to up his net worth. greed.
chris302001
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Sanchez will get hurt in the first couple seasons and be forgotten
MsBeverlyHills
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Matt Leinart wanna-be..lol
chris302001
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purdy much
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lartinos
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I knew Carrol's son who's now a coah. Dood used to get shit faced from what i remember.
I'm sure Leinart is the reason he didn't come back but he'll live to regret that extra year of reps. I don't think he'd go higher if he stayed but he'd have a better chance of succeeding. QB's should never leave early...just ask Tommy Maddox...or Jamarcus Russell...Vince Young..Michael Vick...Aaron Rodgers...Alex Smith.
calveless wonder
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sanchez is nothing like leinart.
lots of people were scared to draft leinart, thats why he fell so far and with good reason. Leinart is a giant douche and was more focused on his hollywood persona than his football skills. everyone is high on sanchez.
sanchez is like 20 notches lower on the douchebag scale than leinart. i like the kid. he'll be a good pro
and the only reason pete carroll was pissed sanchez left was because he's going to be missing a kid that threw for 30+ td's and only 10 ints lol.
lots of people were scared to draft leinart, thats why he fell so far and with good reason. Leinart is a giant douche and was more focused on his hollywood persona than his football skills. everyone is high on sanchez.
sanchez is like 20 notches lower on the douchebag scale than leinart. i like the kid. he'll be a good pro
and the only reason pete carroll was pissed sanchez left was because he's going to be missing a kid that threw for 30+ td's and only 10 ints lol.
calveless wonder
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thats some pretty crappy examples
1.) vince young is garbage. never was a real quarterback and doesnt have the intelligence to be a QB
2.) Alex smith doesn't have big enough hands to be a successful pro quarterback. had nothing to do with him leaving
3.) Aaron rodgers got stuck behind brett favre. what does that have to do with him leaving school early?
4.) jamarcus was never that good. raiders drafted him because of his arm and "upside". he'll never be a good pro QB
5.) Vick was a pretty dominant QB when he reached the NFL. his game would have never changed in college. a year wouldn't have all of a sudden made him a more accurate passer. he'd be doign the exact same thing.
a year of school would have made little to no difference for these guys.
u mean rams take sanchez with the 2nd pick and trade him to the skins..
i hope so .. he cant be worse then jason cambell
gotmilk
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KillahBee
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good call on sanchez, BH. 
Relatively happy about the Giants draft. Wish they would have traded a 1st and 3rd for Braylon Edwards, but it is what it is. Dude's hands took a lot of plays off Owens style anyway. Supposedly Hicks, their first round draft pick is supposed to be really good. A few scouts called him "the most ready to play in the NFL WR in the draft". Eli sure needs a big guy with good hands (tho 6' is quite smaller than Plax).
Also happy with their 2nd pick. Dude has also been touted as possibly the best LB in the draft and this was a deep draft for LBs.
All in all, I trust Reese and the G-Men on draft day a ton. The last few years they have done AMAZING work there.
Eagles suck.
Relatively happy about the Giants draft. Wish they would have traded a 1st and 3rd for Braylon Edwards, but it is what it is. Dude's hands took a lot of plays off Owens style anyway. Supposedly Hicks, their first round draft pick is supposed to be really good. A few scouts called him "the most ready to play in the NFL WR in the draft". Eli sure needs a big guy with good hands (tho 6' is quite smaller than Plax).
Also happy with their 2nd pick. Dude has also been touted as possibly the best LB in the draft and this was a deep draft for LBs.
All in all, I trust Reese and the G-Men on draft day a ton. The last few years they have done AMAZING work there.
Eagles suck.
calveless wonder
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lol, VG didn't even get to play. I guess Terrell Suggs was a bust after a year?
you can't label a guy a bust after 1 year when he didn't play. He was a 4-3 DE converted to a 3-4 OLB, in a mangini run defensive scheme which is complicated as fuck. They had him playing in coverage which is not what hes good at. You're going to see rex ryan rush this guy on the edge a bunch
you don't even know anything about our roster.
you're such a dumb fuck when it comes to sports, i swear.
perfect example of why you're a douche - you don't even talk about your team's draft. you focus on another teams
calveless wonder
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good call on sanchez, BH.
Relatively happy about the Giants draft. Wish they would have traded a 1st and 3rd for Braylon Edwards, but it is what it is. Dude's hands took a lot of plays off Owens style anyway. Supposedly Hicks, their first round draft pick is supposed to be really good. A few scouts called him "the most ready to play in the NFL WR in the draft". Eli sure needs a big guy with good hands (tho 6' is quite smaller than Plax).
Also happy with their 2nd pick. Dude has also been touted as possibly the best LB in the draft and this was a deep draft for LBs.
All in all, I trust Reese and the G-Men on draft day a ton. The last few years they have done AMAZING work there.
Eagles suck.
lol, what the fuck are you smoking? You actually believe that statement that he's the most NFL ready WR? Above Crabtree or percy harvin? He wasn't even the best WR at his school. lol @ 6'0 being big for a receiver. you shouldnt even have put that in there. They should have took Britt. That kid is what they needed. Big, physical and can make plays. Tennessee made a good pickup in getting him.
Quit being a homer for a minute. you sound like ortiz
i'm not even going to comment on that best LB in the draft. i'm sure he's better than Curry, cushing or maluaga lolololol
however, i like the Ramses Barden pick. now THAT guy is big. 6'6 and can play. even though he went to a shit school, i think he could be good. they had a good draft, but holy fuckin hyperboles
KillahBee
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you seen Nicks play? he plays big, you fat whore. dude is strong, good ups and fights for the ball in the air. time will tell, d-bag.
he's DEFINITELY better than muluaga. I'll bet you $100 he has better stats by end of year 2.
calveless wonder
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lololololololololol
calveless wonder
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yeah, all on the defensive side of the ball. how many USC players were drafted this year?
How many USC players were on the offensive side, aside from sanchez?
Thank you
that also means he had to go against them everyday in practice.
you're not talking about a matt leinart who had dwayne jarrett, reggie bush and lendale white behind a diesel line.
USC's offense was pretty subpar from their usual
Is it me or does everyone else not on the jets roster or drafted by the Jets suck in CW eyes?
LOL@ him calling me and KB a homer
I made that initial post to get you worked up (It seemed to work to a T)
However, please enlighten me on your teams depth
also, why should I critique my teams draft or decisions? They slid way the fuck out of the 1st round because the talent from 10-40 was not much better than 40 and on.
Plus their "roster" is so stacked right now they couldn't possibly draft and keep all these players when you can only have 53 and a practice squad
The Jets just put $3000 rims on a 89 escort
The Patriots just put a bunch of replacement parts in the garage for their ferrari
LOL@ him calling me and KB a homer
I made that initial post to get you worked up (It seemed to work to a T
)However, please enlighten me on your teams depth
also, why should I critique my teams draft or decisions? They slid way the fuck out of the 1st round because the talent from 10-40 was not much better than 40 and on.
Plus their "roster" is so stacked right now they couldn't possibly draft and keep all these players when you can only have 53 and a practice squad
The Jets just put $3000 rims on a 89 escort
The Patriots just put a bunch of replacement parts in the garage for their ferrari
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First teams rarely go against each other in practice. The risk of injury is higher. It's always first team offense vs second team defense and vice versa.
Interesting thoughts here that validates points made by both side
Selecting Mark Sanchez Is a Bad Move For The New York Jets | Bleacher Report
My opinion? I have no clue
The media will eat him up from day one if he under performs
Selecting Mark Sanchez Is a Bad Move For The New York Jets | Bleacher Report
My opinion? I have no clue
The media will eat him up from day one if he under performs
LOL @ Patriot hater nation espn kissing ass again
ESPN says Brady tested better physically post-injury than he did at any other time.
Tom Jackson said that this year's Patriot team is as scary as the undefeated team.
Trent Dilfer then said that our coaches, front office and everything we do as an organization is better than anyone else in the NFL. He said it's not even close.
He then goes on to say that we're gonna annihilate teams this year.
Chris Carter added that everyone should be scared of the Patriots
The D*CK sucking got uncomfortable
ESPN says Brady tested better physically post-injury than he did at any other time.
Tom Jackson said that this year's Patriot team is as scary as the undefeated team.
Trent Dilfer then said that our coaches, front office and everything we do as an organization is better than anyone else in the NFL. He said it's not even close.
He then goes on to say that we're gonna annihilate teams this year.
Chris Carter added that everyone should be scared of the Patriots
The D*CK sucking got uncomfortable
calveless wonder
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did you consult with pete carroll on that? because that's not the case at USC. look it up
calveless wonder
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hi, look at me. my name is ortiz and i'm dumbass with no factual evidence for anything i say.
read my post above, because once you have no clue what you're talking about.
you're also the master dipshit who can find any mickey mouse article written by some no name blog loser just so that it supports your viewpoint. even the NY media of all people were praising their picks. Jets got an A rating on all major sports networks/sites
calveless wonder
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when you have to talk for 18 hours spread across 2 days, you come up with some crazy bullshit to say just to say it.
and i heard some of those comments. you just happened to completely exaggerate them in a back handed attempt to downplay your teams supposed "superiority". especially that dilfer comment
anyways, i have nothing to say you to till september.
shouldn't you be busy talking about how the yankees suck and the redsox rule (despite your numerous posts when the redsox started off shitty how its stupid for anyone to get excited until july?)
If I'm not making those posts doesn't that make my outlook correct?
You kinda contradicted yourself bro
this fan sure agrees with me, along with many others
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seaking420
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I love what the jets did....got a good quality qb that will be the face of the franchise for years...also got one of the best rb in the draft...well done....quality vs quantity. I cant wait to see the jets D this year....im sure its going to take a few weeks into the season for them to get the new coaching staff but i have a feeling this D will be amazing and the jets off will control the clock. I think VG is not a bust and will thrive under rex. I just worry about the lack of a #1 WR. Its going to be an interesting year in the AFC east....i like that the jets are underated and the pats are overated this year....funny thing is the pats havent won the sb in years and act as if they won the last 2 or 3...going 18-1 dosent make you sb champs...
gotmilk
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How exactly are they overrated for this year? 11-5 last year with a back up QB.....getting Brady back plus filled a few gaps?
You're already acting like Mark Sanchez is the next Matt Ryan when the kid has played only one full season of college ball for a team that should have killed their opponents regularly.
Nope...it surely does not. It does however get you TO the Superbowl while your AFC East opponents are at home.
seaking420
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I just think the whole team is overrated...they are done...the D is weak now...the offense is one deminsional. Will they still be good...absolutely...will they go to the sb...no way....will they win the afc east....i dont know....maybe/maybe not...people still think they are what they use to be a few years ago....not anymore...teams have found there weakness...
I never claimed Sanchez was going to be matt ryan or anyone else...all i said was they finally got a quality qb...we havent had one in...well its been too long...But I do think he will be a very good QB in the NFL.
billfred
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Sanchez is the next Vinny Testaverde. Elevated in stature due to the college program he played in. Will be an average starter in the pros or good back-up that will be journey through the league.
calveless wonder
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lol @ picking one fan on a jets message board. you really have no life.
as if that's any different from cherry picking random no name douchebag blogger.
you suck at debating, or logic
calveless wonder
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Vinny was pretty fuckin good for the jets when he first came there. i would have taken vinny circa late 90's of any quarterback the jets have had in recent history.
anyways, you can't compare the two. vinny has a way better arm, and lacks the mobility of sanchez.
just because there's a parallel in that they went to an elite college football school doesn't mean they'll be similar.
They don't even have similar college stats. Also, Vinny had michael irvin lol
so where are you drawing this conclusion from?
This draft is gonna do one of two things for the Jets
Turn them around to have a franchise QB and a good running back for when TJ and possible Leon Washington leaves (he wants starter money)and they will be very succesfull
OR... Sanchez could buckle like SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many others and the new york sportsworld will eat him up and it sets you back for years to come,
Problem is with this trade and many others you have little depth for injuries on alot of key positions
Turn them around to have a franchise QB and a good running back for when TJ and possible Leon Washington leaves (he wants starter money)and they will be very succesfull
OR... Sanchez could buckle like SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many others and the new york sportsworld will eat him up and it sets you back for years to come,
Problem is with this trade and many others you have little depth for injuries on alot of key positions
calveless wonder
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Leon washington is not going anywhere. bank on that. He's way too valuable on special teams and on offense. TJ is gone after this year. That's why they got Greene. Leon deserves to get paid. he's been great for this year since his rookie year and hes been making peanuts. im 100% sure the jets will reward his loyalty at the end of the year.
Sanchez has alot of charisma and an aura about him. You can tell when he speaks hes a confident dude and a natural leader. There will be a big honeymoon period for him, even for jets fan. He'll be fine in NY. It's very rare you can say that about anyone playing in NY regardless of the sport, but it's pretty true in this case.
jets biggest issues right now
1.) no blocking TE
2.) thin on the defensive line
3.) alot of young unproven WR's and no real #2 behind Cotchery
we have depth at every other position.
Problem is they are gonna have to give Sanchez a guar. 36 mill, along with V. Gholston ridiculous money from last year, they are gonna be hard pressed to sign a guy who is a special teamer and a third down back who wants a every down backs money. Not saying it's not gonna happen but I think the Jets also slid up for Greene to soften the blow of losing TJ and possibly L. Washingon too next off season.
gotmilk
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The defense is not weak, it's been how long since they were able to play their whole first team together? Over the last two years, their defense had the worst injury time missed. Yet, if Asante Samuel makes one fucking catch, they add another Super Bowl.
The thing I love is most teams have serious drop-off and need to rebuild. The Pats had some good additions and also keep loading up on draft picks. Hell...they have three second rounders again next year.
How the hell do you run the ball when their RB's keep breaking down? Or better...Brady was throwing bombs. I thought for sure the Pat's would dump Maroney for a draft pick and take a decent RB. Hell....CJ Spiller is better than Maroney.
Yeah...hit Brady in the knee.
Really? What was wrong with Pennington? When healthy and surrounded by healthy Wide Receivers, he was pretty decent. The Jets always seem to have offensive injuries just as they start rolling.
LOL!!!!!!!! We missed your humor bro
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another one
read the whole thread and apologize
another one
read the whole thread and apologize
calveless wonder
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lol @ you taking the time to read 56 posts on an opposing teams message board. obsessed much?
I couldn't even tell you the URL of a pats fan board. you probably have the jets bookmarked
seaking420
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I actually agree....that can definitely happen
seaking420
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You have no secondary whats so ever and seymour and bruschi are old....the only hope you have in your coaching system...it takes avg players and makes them look good....maybe itll help out your secondary
I like maroney...and they picked up fred taylor...but hes also old
gotmilk
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They haven't had a full secondary in years...yet were one Asante drop from another Super Bowl and one dropped ball the year before against Indy from playing in another Superbowl.
How exactly are they overrated again?
Especially when the team tossed some old farts for newer meat...some quality picks and somehow once again have another 4 of the top 60 picks in next years draft? Not counting the rumor of dumping Maroney to Detroit for their 2010 second rounder.
Bruschi barely plays any more. He would have rarely played had the linebackers not been decimated with injuries. Seymour's not old, he finally is healthy and was dominating late last year. Old linemen somehow get better with age.
So again, how is this team overrated? 11-5 last year and now have some young guys, healthy vets, and Tom Brady back?
Sammy Morris was tearing people up until Steve Neal sat on him.....and then broke his leg last year. He still had 700 yards in a four man rotation with a bum leg. All Fred Taylor has to do is get 4 yards on an offense that will spread the shit out of defenses.
This is going to fun to watch this year
seaking420
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You keep making excuses....every team has injuries....and every team can go back, look over film and pick one play that cost them the game..
In the past you had asante and harrison in the secondary....not any longer....so they are vulnerable there.
And thier rb's are just ok...its there passing game that opens up the wholes for the rb's and a good line. So you arent as balanced and dominant of a team that you once were....before you would throw and run at will...not any longer...one demensional offense....and in the past your d would stop either run or pass....not any longer vulnerable against the pass....
Your acting like im saying the pats suck...they dont, they are a good team however they are not what they use to be a the past few years...so they are overrated because people still think they are what they use to be....im going to say they go 11-5 again this year....with brady back
gotmilk
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Think about it...which other top team lost so many starters to injuries? Indy did....Pitt did not last year. The year before, Pitt was steamrolling and then lost a core of starters.
New England's been one of the few teams that can plug people into other rolls with the exception of Brady.
As for the one play comment....you missed my point. Asante Samuel's bobble would have added another Superbowl ring. You called them overrated and I'm saying they were one bobble away from 4 Superbowl wins in this decade.
Harrison played five games last year....the year before 12 and the defense was on fire until he was hit low.
What other team has plugged a bunch of flubs into their secondary and still been able to stay with the league leaders? Sure as hell not the JETS.
Not saying that at all. You insinuated they were overrated. I think they earned being mentioned as a yearly contender.
Pitt and New England are probably the only two teams that can make the Superbowl every year and deserve the hype.
gotmilk
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They should have gone after Cutler...or waited a year for Sam Bradford/ Colt McCoy
seaking420
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Im not saying that injuries dosent impact a team...it definitely does....but it happens to everyteam at some point. The jets lost vinnie(and he was playing very well) in week one of their season when they lost to denver in the afc championship game the year prior...the next year they had such high hopes...n vinnie goes down in week one...the following year chad goes down after he got use to being a starter...im just saying it happens....sucks but happens. Curtis martin played hurt most of the time as well as the offensive line 2 years ago...injuries have killed the jets many years....but it happens
Yes the Pats have been one of the few teams to be able to plug people in when they get injuries...that goes to their great coaching system that they have....thats why i said the pats better hope that system is really that good to overcome thier week secondary....
I also said they are overrated this year...not the past few years...i just think they have holes both on off and def that they didnt in the past....still a very good football team....just not going to be as dominant as they were in the past...11-5 is my prediction
calveless wonder
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coming from a skins fan, who's quarterback is jason campbell lolololol
and where once great, and now extremely washed up and overpaid players, go to collect their final check
Taken from bloomberg.com
NFL Draft Signals Giants-Patriots Super Rematch: Kevin Hassett - Bloomberg.com
The headline is that this year, two of the biggest winners are already powerhouse teams. It looks like there is a strong chance there will be another Super Bowl between the Patriots and the New York Giants, who faced off in February 2008, with the Giants prevailing.
Cap Is Key
Before jumping all the way to the Super Bowl, let’s review how the system works.
Since NFL teams operate under a salary cap, success requires that a team find players who perform better than their salaries would suggest.
If there were no cap, you could just pay $10 million to every player on your roster and produce a winner. Call this the New York Yankees Strategy.
With the cap, if you spend that much on one player, you have less money to spend at the other spots. You need to get superstar performance at low, low prices.
The draft allows you to do that. Players chosen in the first round get stratospheric salaries. This year’s top pick, Matthew Stafford, has already signed with the Detroit Lions for an astonishing $78 million maximum over six years. But players chosen later on get much lower salaries.
Thaler and Massey examined the history of drafting and found that teams that choose at the top do not necessarily get their money’s worth, while teams picking in the later rounds, especially the second, tend to get real bargains.
Historic Value
To put their system into practice, I used their results to calculate the historic value associated with each spot in the draft -- 10th, 55th, 97th, etc. -- and then added up the values for each team’s choices in the first four rounds.
The system is player-blind. That is, it doesn’t care who the fourth pick in the second round is; it simply gives a team credit for selecting a typically successful player in that slot.
Looking at this year’s scores, the four big winners were, in order, the Patriots, the Denver Broncos, the Lions and the Giants.
New England’s coach, Bill Belichick, who majored in economics in college, has clearly been reading the literature. He ditched his first-round pick altogether and loaded up on four second-rounders. In addition, he traded some of his later picks for other teams’ second-round picks next year.
The Patriots’ haul was the second-highest-scoring draft since 2003, when my calculations begin. The only team that did better was the 2004 Cincinnati Bengals, a team that, if you are keeping score, went on to win its division in 2005.
Belichick Disciple
Belichick disciple Josh McDaniels, now coaching the Broncos, clearly has taken a page from the master. His team, and the Lions, are probably rebuilding next year, and they are off to a great start.
The big news is that the Giants maneuvered to get two second-round and two third-round picks, elevating their final scores. Expect them to once again be the class of the National Football Conference.
It didn’t take a computer to spot the big loser in this year’s draft, the Washington Redskins. The Redskins once again revealed their extreme economic ignorance, trading away their second-round and fourth-round picks. U.S. bailout money is the only thing that can save the Redskins now. (How convenient: Their plea for help would be a local call.)
The other big losers were the San Francisco 49ers and New York’s other team, the Jets.
Still the Jets
The Jets made a classic error, falling in love with University of Southern California quarterback Mark Sanchez and virtually guaranteeing they will have a large number of undrafted scrubs on their roster. Given the high salaries at the top of the draft, Sanchez will probably not generate much value above that demanded by his salary, even if he becomes a superstar.
Why has the Thaler-Massey system worked so well? The best explanation is that football is a violent sport. Having a star might not guarantee success, since the star might get injured. Having two solid second-round talents at a position might well be a better call, since the backup plan is in place if the starter gets injured. And that backup plan is cost-effective, since second-round salaries are relatively low.
So next year, if New England loses its starting safety to injury, its first pick in the second round, Patrick Chung, can step right in and perform adequately. The Giants will be just as prepared. When injuries strike the Redskins, the replacements will come from the street. Which is why Patriots and Giants fans should be feeling pretty good right now, and Redskins and Jets fans should prepare for yet another disappointing season.
NFL Draft Signals Giants-Patriots Super Rematch: Kevin Hassett - Bloomberg.com
The headline is that this year, two of the biggest winners are already powerhouse teams. It looks like there is a strong chance there will be another Super Bowl between the Patriots and the New York Giants, who faced off in February 2008, with the Giants prevailing.
Cap Is Key
Before jumping all the way to the Super Bowl, let’s review how the system works.
Since NFL teams operate under a salary cap, success requires that a team find players who perform better than their salaries would suggest.
If there were no cap, you could just pay $10 million to every player on your roster and produce a winner. Call this the New York Yankees Strategy.
With the cap, if you spend that much on one player, you have less money to spend at the other spots. You need to get superstar performance at low, low prices.
The draft allows you to do that. Players chosen in the first round get stratospheric salaries. This year’s top pick, Matthew Stafford, has already signed with the Detroit Lions for an astonishing $78 million maximum over six years. But players chosen later on get much lower salaries.
Thaler and Massey examined the history of drafting and found that teams that choose at the top do not necessarily get their money’s worth, while teams picking in the later rounds, especially the second, tend to get real bargains.
Historic Value
To put their system into practice, I used their results to calculate the historic value associated with each spot in the draft -- 10th, 55th, 97th, etc. -- and then added up the values for each team’s choices in the first four rounds.
The system is player-blind. That is, it doesn’t care who the fourth pick in the second round is; it simply gives a team credit for selecting a typically successful player in that slot.
Looking at this year’s scores, the four big winners were, in order, the Patriots, the Denver Broncos, the Lions and the Giants.
New England’s coach, Bill Belichick, who majored in economics in college, has clearly been reading the literature. He ditched his first-round pick altogether and loaded up on four second-rounders. In addition, he traded some of his later picks for other teams’ second-round picks next year.
The Patriots’ haul was the second-highest-scoring draft since 2003, when my calculations begin. The only team that did better was the 2004 Cincinnati Bengals, a team that, if you are keeping score, went on to win its division in 2005.
Belichick Disciple
Belichick disciple Josh McDaniels, now coaching the Broncos, clearly has taken a page from the master. His team, and the Lions, are probably rebuilding next year, and they are off to a great start.
The big news is that the Giants maneuvered to get two second-round and two third-round picks, elevating their final scores. Expect them to once again be the class of the National Football Conference.
It didn’t take a computer to spot the big loser in this year’s draft, the Washington Redskins. The Redskins once again revealed their extreme economic ignorance, trading away their second-round and fourth-round picks. U.S. bailout money is the only thing that can save the Redskins now. (How convenient: Their plea for help would be a local call.)
The other big losers were the San Francisco 49ers and New York’s other team, the Jets.
Still the Jets
The Jets made a classic error, falling in love with University of Southern California quarterback Mark Sanchez and virtually guaranteeing they will have a large number of undrafted scrubs on their roster. Given the high salaries at the top of the draft, Sanchez will probably not generate much value above that demanded by his salary, even if he becomes a superstar.
Why has the Thaler-Massey system worked so well? The best explanation is that football is a violent sport. Having a star might not guarantee success, since the star might get injured. Having two solid second-round talents at a position might well be a better call, since the backup plan is in place if the starter gets injured. And that backup plan is cost-effective, since second-round salaries are relatively low.
So next year, if New England loses its starting safety to injury, its first pick in the second round, Patrick Chung, can step right in and perform adequately. The Giants will be just as prepared. When injuries strike the Redskins, the replacements will come from the street. Which is why Patriots and Giants fans should be feeling pretty good right now, and Redskins and Jets fans should prepare for yet another disappointing season.
seaking420
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thats way too long to read...i have my opinion...we'll see what happens....im saying the pats go 11-5 what do you guys think
gotmilk
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MsBeverlyHills
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14-0 if Brady knocks up Gisele Bundchen...
will you guys do me a huge favor & vote on this thread for the chat thread of the week?? i could use the karma (& will hit all of you w/some in return).
cheers, MsBH
Only if you publicly renounce all things Florida Gator.14-0 if Brady knocks up Gisele Bundchen...
will you guys do me a huge favor & vote on this thread for the chat thread of the week?? i could use the karma (& will hit all of you w/some in return).
cheers, MsBH
MsBeverlyHills
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lol... hey thats alot to ask for only 500 karma pts!
I will say that this wassent exactly the Gators finest moment b4 the draft-
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4087941
lol
The cornerback spot has gotten a drastic overhaul. Veterans who saw the bulk of the action last year have either been traded or cut loose since the end of the season (Hobbs, Lewis Sanders, Jason Webster and Deltha O’Neal), and many of the ones who remain have only one year under their belt in the New England system (Jonathan Wilhite and Terrence Wheatley). In their place are free-agent signees (Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden), as well as a rookie (Butler).
It doesn’t appear the Patriots will add any more cornerbacks between now and late July, so New England figures to enter training camp with a great positional battle at the position. Our guess would be that Wheatley -- who became a starter midway through the 2008 season and was impressive before suffering a wrist injury -- and Springs would have the inside track on the starters' jobs, while Butler, Bodden and Wilhite battle for the nickel corner position.
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I cant even believe you wrote that....lmao....springs is a has been...hasnt done shit in years...and the other guys mentioned have hardly any experience....if the system dosent work they are fucked....
Whilite started most of the last half of the season as a rookie and filled in great, played solid.
Bodden was in Cleveland and played under Romeo(same sytem) ans flourished, was traded to Detroit in the shaun rodgers deal last year and well, did what every player does when they go to Detroit, he died.
Merriweather came into his own as a hard hitter and ball hawk last season and you have Chung and Sanders rotating at FS.
Springs is a ? mark for sure, most washington fans I talked to tell me when he's playing he is a above average corner. So we shall see.
I truly think you might be a bit misguided on the revamp of the defensive backfield they have done over the past two seasons.
Like with every team, performance remains to be seen though.
They have TREMENDOUS depth on their team (minus QB)
NFL=injuries
depth=winning
seaking420
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very true
seaking420
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lets not get crazy
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