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bblazer
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It has always been a weak spot for me. Off the floor, I'm fine, but put the bar at my knees and we are talking a whole different ballgame. I think it is a mind issue really, but it seems like something I just cant get past. Everything just seems off when it come to form, etc if you know what I mean. I would rather do 60m truck pulls
If I can get 700 I'll be happy.B-
lookinfit75
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Been really sick for a couple of weeks and lost a bunch of weight. Bodyweight today is ~298
Doing SLDL with 500lbs for six reps, no belt, no strap.
Doing a grip hole with 500lbs for time using a mixed grip.
Cheers,
Scotsman
Nice deads. What's your best RAW dead?
bblazer
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Tblock1
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Its strongman. It doesn't matter how the bar gets up
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Lol that is what I expected. It's badass and all but damn that's got to lead to such bad back problems.
Scotsman
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I pulled 600 with no belt just before x-mas really easily. With a belt I'd guess 670 to 700.
Cheers,
Scotsman
Tblock1
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needtogetaas
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OK so who is the girl in the avi?Been really sick for a couple of weeks and lost a bunch of weight. Bodyweight today is ~298
Doing SLDL with 500lbs for six reps, no belt, no strap.
Doing a grip hole with 500lbs for time using a mixed grip.
Cheers,
Scotsman
Tblock1
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Damn I just watched the video in your signature and you sure know how to make good product videos but I still don't know what is being advertised?
Scotsman
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Not too worried about it as this is really light for me. Had I not been sick for the last couple of weeks I would have done 8-10 stop reps. Was just happy to be moving some weight.
Cheers,
Scotsman
needtogetaas
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Damn I just watched the video in your signature and you sure know how to make good product videos but I still don't know what is being advertised?
lolololol its on the girls ass in big white letters man
Scotsman
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Well to be honest with you I'm glad I don't look to you for lifting or form advice.
I'm not trying to be a bodybuilder I am training my body and my CNS for the abuse of strongman competitions. Some days I will sacrifice form for moving more weight. And as mentioned I've been sick and lost around 20lbs in the last few weeks. Today was a day I just need to get out some aggression and KILL SOME FUCKING SHIT!
Cheers,
Scotsman
Tblock1
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lolololol its on the girls ass in big white letters man
Oh yeah that's the one thing I did see
Scotsman
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It has always been a weak spot for me. Off the floor, I'm fine, but put the bar at my knees and we are talking a whole different ballgame. I think it is a mind issue really, but it seems like something I just cant get past. Everything just seems off when it come to form, etc if you know what I mean. I would rather do 60m truck pulls
B-
I've pulled 950 for reps from 20" so with a couple of months of dedicated trainig I'm pretty sure I can adjust to 18". Also if it's the same apparatus as last time I did the Kansas show then the bar has a huge amound of flex and you don't break the ground until about the 20-21" mark depending on weight. I'm just happy there aren't a bunch of mobile events in this one. If all goes well I'm planning on weighing in at around the 340 mark for this show.
Cheers,
Scotsman
Tblock1
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Dude that just has to do with not fucking up your back, nothing to do with bodybuilding.
bblazer
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I've pulled 950 for reps from 20" so with a couple of months of dedicated trainig I'm pretty sure I can adjust to 18". Also if it's the same apparatus as last time I did the Kansas show then the bar has a huge amound of flex and you don't break the ground until about the 20-21" mark depending on weight. I'm just happy there aren't a bunch of mobile events in this one. If all goes well I'm planning on weighing in at around the 340 mark for this show.
Cheers,
Scotsman
That flex will make a difference for me, that's for sure. Still I'm glad I'm in the old guy division.
At 340 no one will be calling you an ectomorph.
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Kill that fucking shit bro...good videos
lookinfit75
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Nice... I am stuck on 625 because my grip is worth shit. Any tips on how to get it stronger?
JDid23
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i'll ask this before someone else does, but what do you already do for it?
Tblock1
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I'm sure those grip holds scotsman does would help your grip a lot. Damn scotsman 340 will be ridiculous, at 298 you kind of are an ectomorph
What bodyfat percentage do you plan on being at 340?
Scotsman
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Grip holds work wonders on your deads. Also rack pulls since you don't have to control the weight through the whole range of motion.
Here's my philosophy: "If you want to bench more weight you banch more weight, if you want to squat more weight you squat more weight, so if you want to be able to hole more weight you...." I tell people this at the gym all the time when they ask for tricks/an easy way to build up their grip.
There are no tricks to getting stronger holding grip. Grippers don't help all that much because crushing grip and holding grip are two different facets of strength. I worked up to being able to rep 770 on rack pulls without straps, after 860 I put the straps on but hopefully this next heavy phase will get me up much higher.
Cheers,
Scotsman
Scotsman
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I'm sure those grip holds scotsman does would help your grip a lot. Damn scotsman 340 will be ridiculous, at 298 you kind of are an ectomorph
Sub 20% is the goal. Right before I got sick and started shedding water out of my body I had crazy veins running up my forearms and shoulders. I am getting worriead about getting kicked out of the fatkid club.
Cheers,
Scotsman
needtogetaas
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O you didn't know scotts? Tblock1 is the guy who knows it all but knows nothing at all man. Resident know it not at all lolololol
And many people tell me he is a prick with a big mouth daily. I been kind of just beating around the bush on the ban button for a month now.
needtogetaas
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go back to jerking off in the sink kid.
bblazer
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Lol that is what I expected. It's badass and all but damn that's got to lead to such bad back problems.
it does and it will over time. thats the price some are willing to pay.
Tblock1
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Yeah that's the only thing I was trying to say...not trying to be a know it all or some shit, all I said is that it looks like he could hurt his back with that form and I get attacked for it
Scotsman
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Yeah that's the only thing I was trying to say...not trying to be a know it all or some shit, all I said is that it looks like he could hurt his back with that form and I get attacked for it
Then learn to phrase things better. You're assuming that I use this form all the time and are making preconcieved generalizations. 95% of the time I do full stop reps. As I said which doesn't seem to be sinking in is that I just wanted to bang out some reps.
Cheers,
Scotsman
needtogetaas
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I love all you guys. Even tblock..... I was just messing with him anyway
Scotsman
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lookinfit75
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Sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread but I've been doing a bit of traveling so I haven't had time to post.
Now to your question:
Up until recently, nothing for grip strentgh. Recently I saw a few videos online of some PL'er site and the guy on the site advised grabbing the heaviest DB's you could handle and walking around the gym with them as long as you can so I do that twice a week at the end of my workout. The heaviest DB's we have are 125 lbs so I grab those and walk around the gym for about 30 seconds which is all I can handle. I take a 2 minute break and do it again. Then I go over the the power rack and hold 405lbs (my limit without straps) for as long as I can hold it which is usually about 10-15 seconds and that is on a good day. I rest about 1- 2 minutes and then repeat. Then I do forarm curls with 135lbsx8x3. By this point I can no longer close my hands let alone grip anything so I end my forearm routine there.
lookinfit75
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Gotcha. What are Rack Pulls? How tall are you?
JDid23
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well you're in a whole other league than i am as far as lifting goes
but some good grip exercises would definitely be farmers walks, static holds (like scotsman did), double overhand deads, heavy rows, weighted dead hangs (bottom portion of a pullup), pinching plates.
damn bro sounds like you already have some strong ass forearms, wrist curls with 135 for 3 sets of 8 is sick especially after all that static grip stuff!
It wouldnt directly make your double overhand grip strength much stronger but if you learned the hook grip you could use it on whatever exercises your finding hard and it will give you a grip just as strong as a mixed grip, its a little painful at first but after a while you get used to it. I use it for my deads now all the time, SouthernLord taught me it and Im so glad
The exercises jdid mensioned are good too, and you might consider some more fun stuff like towel pullups, one arm deadlifts, high rep double overhand shrugs, kroc rows and buying a pair of fat gripz.
When I really pushed my numbers on kroc rows my grip strength greatly improved and so did my deadlift lockout, be careful though I injured my self on them.
Scotsman
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Rack pulls or rack deadlifts are a shortened range of motion on the pull. Here's a vid of me doing them I have straps on in this vid just do to the weight being lifted:
I'm ~6'2".
Cheers,
Scotsman
lookinfit75
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well you're in a whole other league than i am as far as lifting goes
but some good grip exercises would definitely be farmers walks, static holds (like scotsman did), double overhand deads, heavy rows, weighted dead hangs (bottom portion of a pullup), pinching plates.
damn bro sounds like you already have some strong ass forearms, wrist curls with 135 for 3 sets of 8 is sick especially after all that static grip stuff!
It wouldnt directly make your double overhand grip strength much stronger but if you learned the hook grip you could use it on whatever exercises your finding hard and it will give you a grip just as strong as a mixed grip, its a little painful at first but after a while you get used to it. I use it for my deads now all the time, SouthernLord taught me it and Im so glad
The exercises jdid mensioned are good too, and you might consider some more fun stuff like towel pullups, one arm deadlifts, high rep double overhand shrugs, kroc rows and buying a pair of fat gripz.
When I really pushed my numbers on kroc rows my grip strength greatly improved and so did my deadlift lockout, be careful though I injured my self on them.
Thank you gentlemen for the wide variety of exercises to choose from. I'll have to look some of these thing up as I have never heard of Farmer's Walk, Plate Pinces, and Krok Rows among many other exercises you all mentioned. Heavy Bent Over rows a la Dorain Yates (Ronnie Coleman does them this way as well) have really help my grip as well and thanks to the stronger grip my other lifts have gone up as well. Stregthen the stabelizers and you'll put up bigger numbers right?
EM you little devil! You are becoming quite the lil' exercise rescource manual! Kudos to you lil homie for learning so much and so quickly.
lookinfit75
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Thank you very much for taking the time to post up bro. I really apreciate it. Funny thing is we weight about the same but I am 4 inches shorter than you hee hee.
Scotsman
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No problem anytime I can help just ask. That 4" is great for the big three but will kill you on lifting stones to a high platform.lol
Cheers,
Scotsman
Lol thanks dude, I can explain most of them here:
A kroc row is basically a high rep one arm dumbell row with as much weight as you can, using some body english to get the weight up, so by cheating a bit you can use maximum poundages and go in the 15-30 sort of rep range. They really put you on your ass, they nail you across the board - abs, forearms, bi's, lats, traps, spinal erectors, shoulders, obliques.
Farmers Walk is simple, you already do it pretty much, you just grab some heavy ass dumbells and walks laps up and down the gym
Plate Pinch is a little hard to explain so Ill show you a video:
scotsman damn they are some strong ass rackpulls!
bblazer
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There are at least 3 guys in my training group that can do what you saw in that video, one handed.
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bblazer
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Hell no!
I can pinch it and break the ground, but then I lose it.
2 hands isn't much of a problem.
B-
lookinfit75
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haha, yeah man, my short ass would die in that event and a few others as well.
lookinfit75
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Thanks for the explinations. I guess I do Kroc Rows already at the end of my back workout.
I can hold the 2 plate piches on my own as I am a bit lazy when it comes to mounting and dismounting high numbers of plates on and off the bar (especially leg presses).
Wouldn't want to shake hands with those 3 individuals BB haha.
Scotsman
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needtogetaas
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Nothing I say or do could ever be viewed as gay man. I could have a dick in each hand in one in my butt and I would still be the most un gay man here.
Scotsman
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Nothing I say or do could ever be viewed as gay man. I could have a dick in each hand in one in my butt and I would still be the most un gay man here.
You must spread K before giving it to needto again.
Oh and it's not gay if you don't make eye contact.
Cheers,
Scotsman
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needtogetaas
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You must spread K before giving it to needto again.
Oh and it's not gay if you don't make eye contact.
Cheers,
Scotsman
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lookinfit75
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Oh shit, HAHAHAHAHAHA! That Jui Jitsu picture is just too much. I'll never look at the Gracie's the same again. Both of you's guys have some serious issues HAHA.
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