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Ejjohn

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I was wondering about all the PCT products these two companies. I am just looking for unbiased feedback about them. I hear mixed things. Some say it is all hype and they don't do anything. Some say they are great.
I was think about adding phyto testosterone and the trs to my pct of my next cycle,but I don't want to waste money.

Any UNBIASED feedback would be greatly appreciated.
 
I think you'll find that most of the people who say that they are all hype haven't used the products. I've used many products from both Needto and PP and was very happy with the service and products. Not everything works for everybody the same way (not even tested and approved prescription meds), but these guys stand behind their products. I know in particular that Needto has a money back guarantee, so I'd say that you can feel confident that the products will work, or at very least, you can get your money back (which you probably won't need/want, since the stuffs GTG).

I have no stake in either of these companies-- I get no kickbacks, or anything, just a satisfied customer!
 
I think you'll find that most of the people who say that they are all hype haven't used the products. I've used many products from both Needto and PP and was very happy with the service and products. Not everything works for everybody the same way (not even tested and approved prescription meds), but these guys stand behind their products. I know in particular that Needto has a money back guarantee, so I'd say that you can feel confident that the products will work, or at very least, you can get your money back (which you probably won't need/want, since the stuffs GTG).

I have no stake in either of these companies-- I get no kickbacks, or anything, just a satisfied customer!


Thanks a lot for your reply.

Would you recommend any of needto's or pp's products products?
I am looking to add to my futures PCTs.
Was thinking about phyto-testosterone and the trs?

I know there is a few more PCT products but these seem the most promising. Any input?
 
Every product sold by BOTH companies are LEGIT I have used almost all of them personally.

PP: has an AMAZING PCT stack already made and put together for ordering!

Take that and add that to some of the products that NEEDTO sells, depending on your PERSONAL NEEDS will be GREAT for PCT. Such as UNLEASHED and PCT by NELSON.

Keep in mind if you are running a major cycle, you will want to stock up on some non otc compounds for emergencies...

-Legacy
 
Products I totally endorse: GEAR, Better Protein Bars, Skeletal Balm, Unleashed, Post Cycle, Lipoflame, Lipostim, AMP02, Sustain Alpha, EndoAMP, Dermacrine... I can really think of any others, but I'm probably forgetting something.
 
Thanks again for replying. You guys are a big help.

My cycle now will have a standard nolva PCT. For my next I will probably go with pp's trs to see how that works. (especially since I will b running tren) maybe add in some phyto-testosterone. (of course I will be using nolva as well and HCG on cycle)

I will work from there to see how well my body recovers. If it's quick I will stick with that PCT, if not I will change up the products.

Thanks again guys.
 
sustain alpha is a great base for any pct. unleashed is good to run all the time but especially good in pct. i havent tried the others yet to comnent. while running sustain and unleashed i lowered my normal nolva pct from 60/60/60/40 to 20/20/20/20 and still recovered verry well and felt 100% better the whole time.

buying them from needto means you will get free fast shipping. buying them from any sponsor means you are helping keep ef alive. you wont be let down with the products or service.
 
I am definitetly going to try the trs along with nolva the way Joe d had it.
I thought I read somewhere dermacrine is suppressive. I could be totally wrong.
Also, has anyone tries phyto-testosterone in their PCT?
 
I am definitetly going to try the trs along with nolva the way Joe d had it.
I thought I read somewhere dermacrine is suppressive. I could be totally wrong.
Also, has anyone tries phyto-testosterone in their PCT?

dermacrine imo would be a nice addition to the cycle. probably not good for pct.
 
Sustain is a great product. I also have Dermacrine and HCGenerate on the shelf waiting to try them out. I'm sure they're going to work great based on reviews here.
 
Forged post cycle is a great product, although the unleashed/post combo that needtobuildmuscle offers is a great offer as well.

Also I suggest to everyone that they should add in some Hcgenerate. no reason at all why they should not, it is an excellent product that many people use and can vouch for.
 
Hcgenerate last few weeks of the cycle for pre pct,unleashed/postcycle/sustain or formastane for pct. Outstanding combo!!!
 
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Yeah HCGenerate is the way to go, and if you want to buy s/a get it from needtobuildmuscle.net, its cheaper, and needto always has some offers on, Try N2SLIN aswell great to hold onto your gains in pct.
 
I am definitetly going to try the trs along with nolva the way Joe d had it.
I thought I read somewhere dermacrine is suppressive. I could be totally wrong.
Also, has anyone tries phyto-testosterone in their PCT?

A rep from pp told me to use it during pct to help maintain gains. I will be trying it out during the summer. Need to and pp as well as orbit are all awsome stores that I love to shop at. They are all first class in my book.
 
needto offers better discounts than PP. Free shipping too.

Absolutely true!

Needtobuildmuscle offers free priority 3 day shipping to all United States customers...Can't get any better than that?

There is also the 15% off discount code as well.
 
Here's a couple of reasons why you should try NTBM products:

1- proven to work
2- cheaper than other products
3- 15% discount.
4- free shipping

With regards to your specific requirements for a PCT product, here's why I would go with HCGenerate:

What is HCGenerate?
HCGenerate is a natural testosterone booster that stimulates the body's own production of testosterone. It is totally legal while being the strongest over the counter PCT on the market today!
What is it used for?
· Post cycle therapy
· Stimulating sexual arousal
· Prevention of testosterone shutdown
. Natural muscle building cycles
Benefits of HCGenerate:
· helps prevent erectile disfunction
· keeps muscle gains higher
· assists liver function
· promotes better mood and feeling of well being
· prevents rapid reductions in IGF
· increases DHEA and free testosterone
· improves HDL
· totally legal
· no injections


HCGenerate:Supplement facts
Serving size: 5 capsules x 30 servings per container.
Fadogia Agrestis.................1000
Fenugreek PE (50% testofen).....1000
3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran....500
Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestre: 500mg
Vitamin E.......................200
LJ:100..........................100
Zinc............................7mg

google the ingredients in HCGenerate and you'll see why it's a great product. They are also mixed in a way to make the product more effective.

I have used this product and I love it.
 
Here's a couple of reasons why you should try NTBM products:

1- proven to work
2- cheaper than other products
3- 15% discount.
4- free shipping

With regards to your specific requirements for a PCT product, here's why I would go with HCGenerate:

What is HCGenerate?
HCGenerate is a natural testosterone booster that stimulates the body's own production of testosterone. It is totally legal while being the strongest over the counter PCT on the market today!
What is it used for?
· Post cycle therapy
· Stimulating sexual arousal
· Prevention of testosterone shutdown
. Natural muscle building cycles
Benefits of HCGenerate:
· helps prevent erectile disfunction
· keeps muscle gains higher
· assists liver function
· promotes better mood and feeling of well being
· prevents rapid reductions in IGF
· increases DHEA and free testosterone
· improves HDL
· totally legal
· no injections


HCGenerate:Supplement facts
Serving size: 5 capsules x 30 servings per container.
Fadogia Agrestis.................1000
Fenugreek PE (50% testofen).....1000
3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran....500
Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestre: 500mg
Vitamin E.......................200
LJ:100..........................100
Zinc............................7mg

google the ingredients in HCGenerate and you'll see why it's a great product. They are also mixed in a way to make the product more effective.

I have used this product and I love it.



I agree It definetely works

RADAR
 
The HCgenerate is def gonna be on my pct, i think Joe is right though i used Dermacrine for a bridge, not sure if its the best PCT option, ill use the HCGenerate and Forged PCT
 
Here's a couple of reasons why you should try NTBM products:

1- proven to work
2- cheaper than other products
3- 15% discount.
4- free shipping

With regards to your specific requirements for a PCT product, here's why I would go with HCGenerate:

What is HCGenerate?
HCGenerate is a natural testosterone booster that stimulates the body's own production of testosterone. It is totally legal while being the strongest over the counter PCT on the market today!
What is it used for?
· Post cycle therapy
· Stimulating sexual arousal
· Prevention of testosterone shutdown
. Natural muscle building cycles
Benefits of HCGenerate:
· helps prevent erectile disfunction
· keeps muscle gains higher
· assists liver function
· promotes better mood and feeling of well being
· prevents rapid reductions in IGF
· increases DHEA and free testosterone
· improves HDL
· totally legal
· no injections


HCGenerate:Supplement facts
Serving size: 5 capsules x 30 servings per container.
Fadogia Agrestis.................1000
Fenugreek PE (50% testofen).....1000
3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran....500
Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestre: 500mg
Vitamin E.......................200
LJ:100..........................100
Zinc............................7mg

google the ingredients in HCGenerate and you'll see why it's a great product. They are also mixed in a way to make the product more effective.

I have used this product and I love it.


Great info Bro!!
 
The HCgenerate is def gonna be on my pct, i think Joe is right though i used Dermacrine for a bridge, not sure if its the best PCT option, ill use the HCGenerate and Forged PCT
Dermacrine is not a PCT at all its a PH so your exactly right.
 
A rep from pp told me to use it during pct to help maintain gains. I will be trying it out during the summer. Need to and pp as well as orbit are all awsome stores that I love to shop at. They are all first class in my book.

Dermacrine is great for bridging between cycles. Also works great taken after the cycle is over for 4 weeks as a pre pct before a pct. As for using it for pct? That is not its best use. PM me for a discount on it though :heart:
 
Always go with the guys who are involved in all aspects of discussion on the boards an are on hand to answer questions. Anyone can just post ads.
 
And to help with main question phyto testerone is not worth adding to the trs. You would ten times better off by spending that money on some unleashed which I have tried or some hcgenerate from what gather. Honestly sustain/hcgen/unleashed is gonna b my pct next round so look into that stack.
 
And to help with main question phyto testerone is not worth adding to the trs. You would ten times better off by spending that money on some unleashed which I have tried or some hcgenerate from what gather. Honestly sustain/hcgen/unleashed is gonna b my pct next round so look into that stack.

I like this Idea too. If anyone wants a discount on sustain or any pp product I can hook them up just send me a pm
 
I am about done with a 12 week test cycle. I've used HCGenerate throughout the whole process and have noticed virtually no testicular atrophy at all. I did the Shredder Stack from Needtobuildmuscle a while back and my boys were gone 3 weeks in. HCGenerate is the bomb. Plus Sustain Alpha works really really well too....smell isn't that pleasing almost makes me gag, but holy shit it works!
 
I was wondering about all the PCT products these two companies. I am just looking for unbiased feedback about them. I hear mixed things. Some say it is all hype and they don't do anything. Some say they are great.
I was think about adding phyto testosterone and the trs to my pct of my next cycle,but I don't want to waste money.

Any UNBIASED feedback would be greatly appreciated.


Two very solid companies with very solid PCT protocols.

What kind of cycle are we talking about here?

Epi, Havoc, Mdrol, EPi-Tren.


For a mild 4-6 week run of Havoc, Epi or Tren I would recommends something along these lines.

run hcgenerate through out the cycle 5 caps ed. Best used the last 4 to 8 weeks of the cycle.
Day 1 PCT run Forged PCT and sustain alpha for 4 weeks
Last day of PCT add in Bridge till your next cycle
 
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