Names of UGLs that have been busted or closed shop in the last 2 months.

[Pat_McCrotch]

Schedule III
Amobarbital & noncontrolled active ingred. 2126 N Amobarbital/ephedrine capsules
Amobarbital suppository dosage form 2126 N
Anabolic steroids 4000 N "Body Building" drugs
Aprobarbital 2100 N Alurate
Barbituric acid derivative 2100 N Barbiturates not specifically listed
Benzphetamine 1228 N Didrex, Inapetyl
Boldenone 4000 N Equipoise, Parenabol, Vebonol, dehydrotestosterone
Buprenorphine 9064 Buprenex, Temgesic
Butabarbital 2100 N Butisol, Butibel
Butalbital 2100 N Fiorinal, Butalbital with aspirin
Chlorhexadol 2510 N Mechloral, Mecoral, Medodorm, Chloralodol
Chlorotestosterone (same as clostebol) 4000 N if 4-chlorotestosterone then clostebol
Chlorphentermine 1645 N Pre-Sate, Lucofen, Apsedon, Desopimon
Clortermine 1647 N Voranil
Clostebol 4000 N Alfa-Trofodermin, Clostene, 4-chlorotestosterone
Codeine & isoquinoline alkaloid 90 mg/du 9803 Codeine with papaverine or noscapine
Codeine combination product 90 mg/du 9804 Empirin, Fiorinal, Tylenol, ASA or APAP w/codeine
Dehydrochlormethyltestosterone 4000 N Oral-Turinabol
Dihydrocodeine combination product 90 mg/du 9807 Synalgos-DC, Compal
Dihydrotestosterone (same as stanolone) 4000 N see stanolone
Dronabinol in sesame oil in soft gelatin capsule 7369 N Marinol, synthetic THC in sesame oil/soft gelatin
Drostanolone 4000 N Drolban, Masterid, Permastril
Ethylestrenol 4000 N Maxibolin, Orabolin, Durabolin-O, Duraboral
Ethylmorphine combination product 15 mg/du 9808
Fluoxymesterone 4000 N Anadroid-F, Halotestin, Ora-Testryl
Formebolone (incorrect spelling in law) 4000 N Esiclene, Hubernol
Hydrocodone & isoquinoline alkaloid 15 mg/du 9805 Dihydrocodeinone+papaverine or noscapine
Hydrocodone combination product 15 mg/du 9806 Tussionex, Tussend, Lortab, Vicodin, Hycodan, Anexsia ++
Ketamine 7285 N Ketaset, Ketalar, Special K, K
Lysergic acid 7300 N LSD precursor
Lysergic acid amide 7310 N LSD precursor
Mesterolone 4000 N Proviron
Methandienone (see Methandrostenolone) 4000 N
Methandranone 4000 N ?incorrect spelling of methandienone?
Methandriol 4000 N Sinesex, Stenediol, Troformone
Methandrostenolone 4000 N Dianabol, Metabolina, Nerobol, Perbolin
Methenolone 4000 N Primobolan, Primobolan Depot, Primobolan S
Methyltestosterone 4000 N Android, Oreton, Testred, Virilon
Methyprylon 2575 N Noludar
Mibolerone 4000 N Cheque
Morphine combination product/50 mg/100 ml or gm 9810
Nalorphine 9400 Nalline
Nandrolone 4000 N Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin, Durabolin, Durabolin-50
Norethandrolone 4000 N Nilevar, Solevar
Opium combination product 25 mg/du 9809 Paregoric, other combination products
Oxandrolone 4000 N Anavar, Lonavar, Provitar, Vasorome
Oxymesterone 4000 N Anamidol, Balnimax, Oranabol, Oranabol 10
Oxymetholone 4000 N Anadrol-50, Adroyd, Anapolon, Anasteron, Pardroyd
Pentobarbital & noncontrolled active ingred. 2271 N FP-3
Pentobarbital suppository dosage form 2271 N WANS
Phendimetrazine 1615 N Plegine, Prelu-2, Bontril, Melfiat, Statobex
Secobarbital & noncontrolled active ingred 2316 N various
Secobarbital suppository dosage form 2316 N various
Stanolone 4000 N Anabolex, Andractim, Pesomax, dihydrotestosterone
Stanozolol 4000 N Winstrol, Winstrol-V
Stimulant compounds previously excepted 1405 N Mediatric
Sulfondiethylmethane 2600 N
Sulfonethylmethane 2605 N
Sulfonmethane 2610 N
Talbutal 2100 N Lotusate
Testolactone 4000 N Teslac
Testosterone 4000 N Android-T, Androlan, Depotest, Delatestryl
Thiamylal 2100 N Surital
Thiopental 2100 N Pentothal
Tiletamine & Zolazepam Combination Product 7295 N Telazol
Trenbolone 4000 N Finaplix-S, Finajet, Parabolan
Vinbarbital 2100 N Delvinal, vinbarbitone

its almost funny how you left out eh first part of the section you just quoted:

`(A) The term `anabolic steroid' means any drug or hormonal substance, chemically and pharmacologically related to testosterone (other than estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and dehydroepiandrosterone), and includes--

this is right before all the shit you posted. it is funny how people have to be right sooooo bad that they give partial truths.

 

[holy ghost]

?? this thread is nuts

 

[gymratforlife]

PBL is snitching or LE is answering emails pretending to be him.Any one know what date he was busted on exactly?

 

[mookie]

PBL is snitching or LE is answering emails pretending to be him.Any one know what date he was busted on exactly?

The news reported it on Oct 1 so right around end of Sept.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

The states clearly what conspiracey is. So we cant find a case or somone cant find it but it does not change the fact that it is the law and if they wanted to pop you on it they could. Will they come after the little guy maybe maybe not. the probability is low right now. they most likly would not have said they have all the leads of the consumers if they planned on coming aftr us. by the ketting it out they have our info gives us time to clean house. if thy wanted they can get us on conspiracy because we asked for a list which isnt conspiracy yet but when you take the step to send moneu that is where intent can be proven in mosr any court of law.

Do you have a link to just one case where a mere user was indicted on conspiracy without possession? Just one. I have looked and can't find any, and nobody here has provided one. This tells me that the probability is microscopically low to nil, and that such cases are not prosecutable for all practical purposes.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

If LE was intent on going after end users to arrest them, wouldn't this have been the best oppertunity for them to do it??? Their case would be air tight. Every delivery could have been controlled.

Exactly. There is a lot of fear-mongering afoot.

 

[muffinmaker]

Do you have a link to just one case where a mere user was indicted on conspiracy without possession? Just one. I have looked and can't find any, and nobody here has provided one. This tells me that the probability is microscopically low to nil, and that such cases are not prosecutable for all practical purposes.

Why do you say this? Because it hasnt been done b4, it wont be done? Please dont be so naive. Theres is a first for eveything, just as the busts, there can be firsts for eveything. When did LE have so much info, NEVER.

 

[needtogetaas]

No, and here's why.

#1 BRR and George do not want any talk of sources on the board.

#2 How can anyone give you an honest answer to that? No one knows. LE took over some source accounts for months and still operated. Still answered emails and took orders. How do we know that isn't the case here? We don't. No one can honestly answer that.

It was reported 50+ labs were busted. So far, no one has produced evidence of even close to half that amount of being busted. The indictments and such that have been linked here don't even add up to 20, (or less if I am mistaken). So who are the others that was busted that we don't know about?

Is it really worth a chance to take a gamble and find out with your own safety at stake? Bro, save your money. Christmas is right around the corner. Treat your girl to something extra nice. In the long run, that is the better investment.

very well put bro..hell I dont want any thing to do with any of this shit for a long time now.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

Why do you say this? Because it hasnt been done b4, it wont be done? Please dont be so naive. Theres is a first for eveything, just as the busts, there can be firsts for eveything. When did LE have so much info, NEVER.

Yes, the fact that nobody can find any link to a case where a mere user was charged with conspiracy without possession, gives me a very good reason to think that the probability of such a thing happening in the future is next to nil.

Similarly the fact that I have never seen a pig fly gives me a very good reason to think the probability of a flying pig in the future is next to nil.

Sure a pig could fly in the future, but it's not something I need to seriously consider. Capice?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Do you have a link to just one case where a mere user was indicted on conspiracy without possession? Just one. I have looked and can't find any, and nobody here has provided one. This tells me that the probability is microscopically low to nil, and that such cases are not prosecutable for all practical purposes.

None of us are law gurus as you are not either. No one has said it has happenned. It can happen. Why are you arguing this? it is law. They can get you on it if they choose to. The keyowrd is if the choose to.

 

[gymratforlife]

 

[JohnChicago]

You are reading too much into my response. LOL - All I did was cut and paste Schedule III drugs from the DEA website. I could have pasted more but my intent was to zero in on specific scheduling - no more no less - nothing to do with partial truths. Sorry if you read more into my response than intended.

its almost funny how you left out eh first part of the section you just quoted:

`(A) The term `anabolic steroid' means any drug or hormonal substance, chemically and pharmacologically related to testosterone (other than estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and dehydroepiandrosterone), and includes--

this is right before all the shit you posted. it is funny how people have to be right sooooo bad that they give partial truths.

 

[JohnChicago]

I not saying - I'm stating what Congress has said. It is not on the schedule III list. I am reposting again for those that missed it earlier in the thread:

To clear up any confusion about human growth hormone - somatropin - scheduling:

Okay, here's the law: human growth hormone - somatropin - is a prescription drug but is NOT on the federal list of controlled substances (found in 21 USC § 812(c)). Congress considered scheduling it along with steroids but chose not to do so. However …

When Congress bootstrapped anabolic steroids into the Controlled Substances Act by passing the Anabolic steroid Control Act of 1990, steroids were already covered under 21 USC § 333(e), a part of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. That law, passed in 1988, made it a felony to distribute steroids (without criminalizing their personal use). When the Control Act effectively took steroids out of that section, Congress filled the void by sticking human growth hormone - somatropin - in there. So, while hGH is not scheduled, 21 USC § 333(e) prohibits the distribution or possession with intent to distribute hGH for any use in humans other than for recognized medical reasons and pursuant to a valid prescription. Violations may be punishable by imprisonment of up to 5 years (10 years if to a person under 18 years).

So are you trying to say that gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - is not considered an anabolic steroid?

 

[muffinmaker]

Yes, the fact that nobody can find any link to a case where a mere user was charged with conspiracy without possession, gives me a very good reason to think that the probability of such a thing happening in the future is next to nil.

Similarly the fact that I have never seen a pig fly gives me a very good reason to think the probability of a flying pig in the future is next to nil.

Sure a pig could fly in the future, but it's not something I need to seriously consider. Capice?

come on man,please tell me ur not that stupid. When was the last time u saw 50 labs and over 100 arrests for steroids? NEVER

Capice

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I not saying - I'm stating what Congress has said. It is not on the schedule III list. I am reposting again for those that missed it earlier in the thread:

To clear up any confusion about human growth hormone - somatropin - scheduling:

Okay, here's the law: human growth hormone - somatropin - is a prescription drug but is NOT on the federal list of controlled substances (found in 21 USC § 812(c)). Congress considered scheduling it along with steroids but chose not to do so. However …

When Congress bootstrapped anabolic steroids into the Controlled Substances Act by passing the Anabolic steroid Control Act of 1990, steroids were already covered under 21 USC § 333(e), a part of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. That law, passed in 1988, made it a felony to distribute steroids (without criminalizing their personal use). When the Control Act effectively took steroids out of that section, Congress filled the void by sticking human growth hormone - somatropin - in there. So, while human growth hormone - somatropin - is not scheduled, 21 USC § 333(e) prohibits the distribution or possession with intent to distribute hGH for any use in humans other than for recognized medical reasons and pursuant to a valid prescription. Violations may be punishable by imprisonment of up to 5 years (10 years if to a person under 18 years).

When was this written? There have been ammendments. Look at what I posted. it clearly states and drug or hormone relating to testosterone which was written in 2000ish

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

harleymarley seems to have tunnel vision for some reason. hey muffinmaker keep these posts coming about new busts. They are very interesting.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

You are reading too much into my response. LOL - All I did was cut and paste Schedule III drugs from the DEA website. I could have pasted more but my intent was to zero in on specific scheduling - no more no less - nothing to do with partial truths. Sorry if you read more into my response than intended.

Its just the one I posted was an ammendment to the act in 1990. it sounds as if they have added Gh in that classification IMO. Oh well no biggie just dont get caught with either. lol

 

[JohnChicago]

When was this written? There have been ammendments. Look at what I posted. it clearly states and drug or hormone relating to testosterone which was written in 2000ish

It was written by By Rick Collins, J.D. in 2003. My family doc will rx HGH but not rx any schedule III steroid. I asked why and was told that HGH is simply a prescription drug like Viagra and not scheduled. Problem is that the big pharms have lobbied to ban generic HGH to keep their name brand HGH at sky high prices. It isn't cost effective to buy the brand name at $20 - $30 an IU. That is one of the reasons I went the overseas route for a couple of bucks an IU. Got the detention letter from Food and Drug and I can tell you first hand that it doesn't even remotely look like a seizure letter that you get from Treasury/DEA. As I said before the letter clearly states "you have not broken the law and the HGH is generic and not approved for sale in the United States so the package will be returned to the sender." I've been told that is why HRT clinics have had to switch back to brand name HGH instead of the generic compounding rx kind. The big drug companies win again and the consumer gets screwed.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

come on man,please tell me ur not that stupid. When was the last time u saw 50 labs and over 100 arrests for steroids? NEVER

Capice

More rhetoric from dough boy here. I have heard of lots of labs busted before, and can provide you links. Raw Deal was a just a matter of scale, the next step from up Gear Grinder. Such a crackdown on distributors is not surprising at all. Just a matter of time really, and lots of precedents. On the other hand, it looks you have no precedents for conspiracy without possession for users. If you did, you would not need to resort to meaningless rhetoric.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

None of us are law gurus as you are not either. No one has said it has happenned. It can happen. Why are you arguing this? it is law. They can get you on it if they choose to. The keyowrd is if the choose to.

No, I think in many cases it cannot happen. I suspect that is because of Wharton's Rule which is an exception to conspiracy. Wharton's Rule says that you cannot be charged with conspiracy if the crime by its nature must involve two people - A simple drug deal has to involve two people - you and the dealer. Feel free to look it up. Now, if you got together with friends and conspired to buy, then it might be possible to get you on conspiracy, but still highly unlikely.

Oh, and just because people can choose to do something isn't really that significant. George Bush could choose to become a socialist, too, but it's not something I need to seriously consider.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

No, I think in many cases it cannot happen. I suspect that is because of Wharton's Rule which is an exception to conspiracy. Wharton's Rule says that you cannot be charged with conspiracy if the crime by its nature must involve two people - A simple drug deal has to involve two people - you and the dealer. Feel free to look it up. Now, if you got together with friends and conspired to buy, then it might be possible to get you on conspiracy, but still highly unlikely.

Oh, and just because people can choose to do something isn't really that significant. George Bush could choose to become a socialist, too, but it's not something I need to seriously consider.

Would you and the drug dealer not count as 2 people conspiring to deal/buy an illegal drug?

Ill be honest I doubt anything anyone says will change your mind. I believe you are here just to argue and thats cool. but i am done talking about this topic. I agree it is highly unlikly any of us who purchased from these dealers will get a visit unless they need more witnesses, which it apperas they have enough to send alot fo these peeps away.

I wish you the best.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

It was written by By Rick Collins, J.D. in 2003. My family doc will rx human growth hormone - somatropin - but not rx any schedule III steroid. I asked why and was told that HGH is simply a prescription drug like Viagra and not scheduled. Problem is that the big pharms have lobbied to ban generic HGH to keep their name brand HGH at sky high prices. It isn't cost effective to buy the brand name at $20 - $30 an IU. That is one of the reasons I went the overseas route for a couple of bucks an IU. Got the detention letter from Food and Drug and I can tell you first hand that it doesn't even remotely look like a seizure letter that you get from Treasury/DEA. As I said before the letter clearly states "you have not broken the law and the HGH is generic and not approved for sale in the United States so the package will be returned to the sender." I've been told that is why HRT clinics have had to switch back to brand name HGH instead of the generic compounding rx kind. The big drug companies win again and the consumer gets screwed.

So your doc says he wont write for test CY.P because it is a class 3? Your doc is feeding you a line of shit. Will he write for narcotics if your in pain? those are class 3? anyways I am done with this arguement too. it really is a waste of board space.

 

[jeb0177]

lol

 

[Harleymarleybone]

Would you and the drug dealer not count as 2 people conspiring to deal/buy an illegal drug?

Ill be honest I doubt anything anyone says will change your mind. I believe you are here just to argue and thats cool. but i am done talking about this topic. I agree it is highly unlikly any of us who purchased from these dealers will get a visit unless they need more witnesses, which it apperas they have enough to send alot fo these peeps away.

I wish you the best.

No, I am not here just to argue. I seriously would like a good answer. Yes, you and the dealer would be two people. But Wharton's Rule says that if the nature of the crime necessarily involves two people then it's not conspiracy. And a drug deal necessarily involves two people. Maybe I should call Rick Collins to see what he thinks, but he is probably very busy.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

sounds like you found your answer. good luck

 

[holy ghost]

guys O was not on this list were they?

 

[rdel85]

guys O was not on this list were they?

If you are referring to Osoca yes.

 

[holy ghost]

no the other O its a spanish name

 

[Advisor_x]

If you are referring to Osoca yes.

osoca busted......I posted the links to the indictment.......

 

[holy ghost]

no Man Se LLAMA OSCAR........ somethin else

 

[mookie]

no Man Se LLAMA OSCAR........ somethin else

I heard the rumor he was busted but I don't think he was. In the last 6 months he has been slacking now with all the shit going down I think he is closed shop with everybodys money. I hope not I dealt with him lot of times and he always came through but has been giving alot of people the run around for a while now.

 

[holy ghost]

FUCK!

lets hope thats not true

A friend spoke with him last week

Everything was said to be peachy keen

We shall see.

 

[mookie]

FUCK!

lets hope thats not true

A friend spoke with him last week

Everything was said to be peachy keen

We shall see.

Hope so love his omnas. Hopefully my favorite uncle comes back

 

[holy ghost]

Your Tio is on vacation

i will keep you posted

 

[bbkingpin]

Actual indictment against Genescience out of china, Gavin Kane (Almost Pro) and Mamtas, among others.

http://www.projo.com/pdf/2007/09/20070924_steroidindictment.pdf

http://www.projo.com/pdf/2007/09/20070924_steroidforfeiture.pdf

Heavy! So, Mamta went down?!

 

[AAP]

Heavy! So, Mamta went down?!

Better question... was he actually taken into custody? Will they ever get him into court to answer charges? Just throwing his name on the paper there isn't going to be worth the paper it is printed on unless they can physically apprehend him and produce him in court to face the system.

They can indict Osama for crimes, but it doesn't mean anything unless they catch him first.

I don't even know if they could legally freeze mamtas assets (if they even can find them)

Then again, I didn't really read the whole thing. It may have been covered.

 

[holy ghost]

Nobody has any info On Ozcar?
i heard he got popped

fn hope not

youre a good bro aap Find out for us

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

What about Dom@#$ic Po@#$rs? Is it ok to post his whole name? it seems almost stupid to post it like this?

 

[bigdofba]

Has anyone tried to goto SSB lately?

 

[jeb0177]

...

 

[Svengali]

What about Dom@#$ic Po@#$rs? Is it ok to post his whole name? it seems almost stupid to post it like this?

Bro, it was mentioned like 50 times in this and other threads that he is busted with sl.

 

[muffinmaker]

Has anyone tried to goto SSB lately?

what would be the reason to even think about going there?????????

 

[jeb0177]

its 'under construction' meaning that is under investigation... I think.

 

[muffinmaker]

its 'under construction' meaning that is under investigation... I think.

The investigation was done for awhile there, they have control of it, Id stay far away!

 

[jeb0177]

The investigation was done for awhile there, they have control of it, Id stay far away!

EXACT-O!!

 

[bigdofba]

what would be the reason to even think about going there?????????

I didn't mean to. I was on a website and clicked a link and it took me to the main site.

I had been to the forum before but not the main site. I was under the impression that the whole site had been taken down. Guess not.

 

[holy ghost]

I think im going out of town for a little while...

 

[JohnChicago]

So your doc says he wont write for test CY.P because it is a class 3? Your doc is feeding you a line of shit. Will he write for narcotics if your in pain? those are class 3? anyways I am done with this arguement too. it really is a waste of board space.

Naw - he's not feeding me a line of shit. To clarify: My doc will write for schedule III drugs - just not schedule III steroids. I'm done too - it was a informative back and forth with you, but as you have said, we are now gummin' up board space.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Teragon Labs

 

[chazk]

Passing this on from another board

------------------------------

Not sure if everybody has heard about this over the past couple of weeks, but Canuck4, owner/Admin of the Intense-Training board, and previous poster at EF, has been working with LE for over 2 years, and was the one who RATTED out Mamta and a few others. His indictment was set a few weeks ago. He lied, rolled, and set-up many people. SCUM!!!

If you dealt with this guy, then do the necessary deeds in taking precautions.

This has been verified by the remaining I-T staff that left that board, as well as the new owner/Admin. Personally, i'd stay off that board. It was stated that Canuck gave LE access to the board for 2 years. Probably since his bust 1.5-2 years ago.

Here is something that was written about 2 weeks ago, and may be a good read:
**********************************************

Well this is quite the fairy tale let’s just put it this way. Canuck you say you did not roll>. Well...yes you did and I can prove it. Absolutely you are the CS listed in the indictments that led to the arrest of Propeptides owner, and the search for Jack Thomas. The Rep…aka Dr Lei of Gensci and mamta….

Do you really want to clear it up? Because I can post a 23 page report from the investigator in these indictments that clearly points you out as the Cs…here are just a few of the many tale tell signs

Why indicted in Rhode Island….well it is where you live…
You had a controlled delivery in 2005, that is widely known.and oddly enough the CS in this had a controlled delivery in 2005…that is how they turned you Canuck…
Propeptides was a sponsor on this board, Intense-training, they paid a specific amount to you they paid nobody else.that specific amount is listed in the report….

4 WU receipts are listed in the investigators report, 3 came from you to mamta…I guess just another coincidence…like hell
Mamta himself has verified that you remailed for him in late 2005….you say you had not in a year and a half.well that fits perfectly with the investigators report….

The area and down to the city.and for those who can get such info.the address is exactly yours….that part unfortunately ca not be reported…but the investigators report is more than accurate enough to pinpoint you.

It also states the CS was a co owner of Intense Training….well now….I know it was not DJ.as he did not have a CD in 2005…but you did…..

So if you are really so concerned in really clearing your name (you can’t, you are the rat) but if you are.let me upload the PDF from Rhode Island that spells everything out I just posted.everything.it will be around a lot of places very soon….people can get these things…and to many know who you are and what you did….to easy to make to connection…hell I was actually hoping it wasn’t you, not that I have any use for you at all…but because I like to think people have more backbone then that…you obviously talk a much better game than you play. Hell as a dipshit in this thread said someone would call the DEA on you. LOL sounds like to me it is more like you are the DEA, by proxy of course.

So now.let me clear the air. Let it be posted here. Bet not only does it not get posted here. This post gets deleted quickly.

 

[MichaelScott]

hmm..

 

[redchocolate692003]

Gasman went down

still no proof of this claim

 

[holy ghost]

The Rep…aka Dr Lei of Gensci and mamta

wtf he was the main head from gensci and mamta?

damn, was he the GH smuggler they tried to pop in mexico connnected to jinotropin?

lei jin right?

 

[Svengali]

still no proof of this claim

you must be kidding.

 

[halfcenturian]

I'm Done. Too scared to get popped.
Just dumped a couple grand worth of shit down the toilet.
Just have my Test Cyp. which I have a prescription for.

 

[puddlemonkey]

I think im going out of town for a little while...

Don't forget your gat!

 

[jeb0177]

Wow!!!

 

[Svengali]

I'm Done. Too scared to get popped.
Just dumped a couple grand worth of shit down the toilet.
Just have my Test testosterone cypionate. which I have a prescription for.

Oh, so you had real steroids? I thought that this was a role-playing forum. You guys who would actually do real steroids are nuts.
maybe I am in the wrong place.

 

[holy ghost]

Don't forget your gat!

i neva leave my pad without packin a gun
hittin hard as fuck i make ya axe what wuz it
boy you should of known by now ghostdog doez it !

gangsta pull that strap out ya pants and blast !
ganstas dont run and gangstas dont hide
im a gansta ass nigga from that Sick C side

 

[holy ghost]

I'm Done. Too scared to get popped.
Just dumped a couple grand worth of shit down the toilet.
Just have my Test testosterone cypionate. which I have a prescription for.

what sewer plant does that drain lead to ? Are you sewer or Septic/leech feild

LMK ill go retrive your goodies at the plant.

 

[needtogetaas]

what sewer plant does that drain lead to ? Are you sewer or Septic/leech feild

LMK ill go retrive your goodies at the plant.

fuck if it was that much I will go wallow in the shit fields with yo for a wile.

 

[holy ghost]

yeah, well light one up or somethin. c you there.

 

[PizzaRob]

This would be my 1st post and I understand how it could be suspicious, but I really need to know if Vanquish got popped or scammed. I know he owed several people, and so far I have not see any proof of a bust. Thanks

 

[Svengali]

yeah, well light one up or somethin. c you there.

I'll B there too

 

[rao740]

you must be kidding.

shed some light then my friend

 

[holy ghost]

I'll B there too

bZ down Buck Slobz all Dizay!

let that dead rag drag cuzin

 

[holy ghost]

Originally Posted by Aber1784
you call that board a joke yet you say elite fitness is a great board, EF is filled with a bunch of clowns that don't know their head from their assholes

hes is a supermod on flex muscle
\

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

>> Teragon Labs

Wow... and I thought the mail was just slow cuz of the holidays... :S

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Ok.. I don't wanna be an ass, sound uneducated, or whatever the fuck... but I'm kinda tippin' out there... the dude I dealt with had terragon labs shit, as well as other labs' shit in his list... he is from the same city as the news report said the dude from Teragon Labs was/is from... So is it safe to assume that he was the one that got pinched? and if so.. I'm worried as he sent me a message asking for my details on the 2nd... then the bust went down on the 3rd... (according to the news story) and I didn't read my mail 'til the 5th... and replied back with my details... now the thing I'm worried about is the fact that I replied AFTER the bust... Can they get that info from his email addy? And if so... Do I need to worry about the RCMP bangin' on my fuckin door over $250 worth of shit???

If this posting is out of line, or whatnot... I apologize... please just delete it.

 

[holy ghost]

clean house

 

[Svengali]

clean house i had same thing happen with GA.

But have there been any reports of LE chasing down end users?

 

[jeb0177]

bro, that happened to my friend over at SSB when he ordered from a guy supposedly named ap, my friend was giving details. BUT TO LE! and he received a letter from LE from lousiana. I say clean da house and stay safe.

Ok.. I don't wanna be an ass, sound uneducated, or whatever the fuck... but I'm kinda tippin' out there... the dude I dealt with had terragon labs shit, as well as other labs' shit in his list... he is from the same city as the news report said the dude from Teragon Labs was/is from... So is it safe to assume that he was the one that got pinched? and if so.. I'm worried as he sent me a message asking for my details on the 2nd... then the bust went down on the 3rd... (according to the news story) and I didn't read my mail 'til the 5th... and replied back with my details... now the thing I'm worried about is the fact that I replied AFTER the bust... Can they get that info from his email addy? And if so... Do I need to worry about the RCMP bangin' on my fuckin door over $250 worth of shit???

If this posting is out of line, or whatnot... I apologize... please just delete it.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Ok.. I don't wanna be an ass, sound uneducated, or whatever the fuck... but I'm kinda tippin' out there... the dude I dealt with had terragon labs shit, as well as other labs' shit in his list... he is from the same city as the news report said the dude from Teragon Labs was/is from... So is it safe to assume that he was the one that got pinched? and if so.. I'm worried as he sent me a message asking for my details on the 2nd... then the bust went down on the 3rd... (according to the news story) and I didn't read my mail 'til the 5th... and replied back with my details... now the thing I'm worried about is the fact that I replied AFTER the bust... Can they get that info from his email addy? And if so... Do I need to worry about the RCMP bangin' on my fuckin door over $250 worth of shit???

If this posting is out of line, or whatnot... I apologize... please just delete it.

I wouldn't call you uneducated, nice to finally see someone worried about getting popped rather than the usual, "OMG, my stuff, I'm not gonna get my stuffs! I got ripped off!!! What am I gonna do now, I don';t want to lose all that money!!!1! I'm mid cycle, I need my shit!"

 

[muffinmaker]

But have there been any reports of LE chasing down end users?

I havent heard of any yet, but that doesnt mean it hasnt happened. I mean Im sure LE isnt going to come and post here how they just nabbed a xcustomer of "so and so".

Also Im so sick of hearing these know it alls on this baord, who just jopined in the past yr, post all day and have 1 cycle under theuir belts claim ," THEY WONT GO AFTER CUSTOMERS" OH YEAH, WELL HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW??????

 

[holy ghost]

puddler wuddler !

 

[halfcenturian]

Just shittin' ya. They ain't gonna fuck with a small personal user like me.
I wouldn't flush anything because I have scripts for my shit.

It's the Big International Distributors like Ghost LE is lookin for.
He's huge! He got a crew of 18 people watchin his operation

The above is all total bullshit. ^^^

I said before all my gear is in the wall safe, behind the Monet. come on it.
LE come knocking on my door, I'm clean !

 

[puddlemonkey]

puddler wuddler !

nice crowns holy!

 

[holy ghost]

Paid tha cost to be tha boss thanx brothaman :{D

 

[craw_dad]

But have there been any reports of LE chasing down end users?

“We will be identifying all the end users,” John Gilbride, a special agent for the Drug Enforcement Administration in New York, said at a news conference today at the administration’s offices in downtown Manhattan. “We do have the lists of a lot of individuals and will be going through them. They may not all be prosecuted, but we will be identifying them.”
Operation Raw Deal

Simmons said the DEA provides its evidence to the U.S. Attorney's office, which then can decide whether to share Raw Deal names with other law enforcement agencies and Congress. He also said the agency expects to be making arrests based on the evidence for months, if not years.

"In Gear Grinder, we didn't target the end user," he said. "Now, we have investigative leads everywhere”
Operation Raw Deal II

 

[matty420]

“We will be identifying all the end users,” John Gilbride, a special agent for the Drug Enforcement Administration in New York, said at a news conference today at the administration’s offices in downtown Manhattan. “We do have the lists of a lot of individuals and will be going through them. They may not all be prosecuted, but we will be identifying them.”
Operation Raw Deal

Simmons said the DEA provides its evidence to the U.S. Attorney's office, which then can decide whether to share Raw Deal names with other law enforcement agencies and Congress. He also said the agency expects to be making arrests based on the evidence for months, if not years.

"In Gear Grinder, we didn't target the end user," he said. "Now, we have investigative leads everywhere”
Operation Raw Deal II

i call bullshit. no one is going to pay someone to do all of that fucking legwork. they got the dealers. they got the suppliers, none of us will be busted. thats just a scare tactic to keep us on our toes. nice screenname bro. crawdad? i'm staying away, i don't wanna get "pinched"

 

[holy ghost]

Good call Mat

 

[Advisor_x]

Just some inside information the operation is not over and all the information collected will be passed down to state level.........BELIVE ME IF YOU CARE.....

i call bullshit. no one is going to pay someone to do all of that fucking legwork. they got the dealers. they got the suppliers, none of us will be busted. thats just a scare tactic to keep us on our toes. nice screenname bro. crawdad? i'm staying away, i don't wanna get "pinched"

 

[holy ghost]

adviso

ya estaban trabajando con los estados , thats why a few college kids got busted

 

[airsmith2k]

le are a bunch of jerkoff cocksuckers

 

[muffinmaker]

Just some inside information the operation is not over and all the information collected will be passed down to state level.........BELIVE ME IF YOU CARE.....

Yep, Im w/ ya on that, you also have to realize thus is the same kid, who didnt know what conspriacy was, even though his whole family is lawyers, GUYS BE CAREFUL WHO U TAKE ADVICE FROM!

 

[holy ghost]

wat is that supposd to mean lol???

 

[airsmith2k]

no way in hell are they gonna go after EVERY individual user....that would prolly be over 200,000 people!! i could see them going after individuals who bought HUGE quantities

 

[eddymerckx]

le are a bunch of jerkoff cocksuckers

i disagree--it's the politicians and the media that direct their agenda--the dea is told what to do by this facist administration.

 

[craw_dad]

geez special agent whoeveryou are, can't a brother get a break?? read the article in Time mag--these people are older professionals who do more to discourage use by kids than any of your gov's programs--in fact, there are more than a couple of people on this board the use gear b/c modern medcine cannot help them (crohns, ibs, etc).

granted, you have a job to do but when is the last time a 30 yo doc/lawyer/engineer/business owner knocked over a liquor store to feed their gear habit?

heck, we even support le on gear--may just save your life someday

LMAO....

Svengali asked a question I just posted facts. You guys believe what you want to believe but personally I believe this is a long way from being over. I have no idea who their going to go after or if their going to go after anyone at all, your guess is as good as mine. As far as the leg work is concerned LE already has IP and most home addresses, its not going to take that much time or effort to figure things out. Whose going to pay for it? The tax payer, who else? Money's no object.

Hypothetically what are you going to do if LE does decide to do a little knock and talk and they show up at your doorstep? How are you going to explain why your IP and home address are showing up on a convicted steroid dealers computer showing someone from your computer made several purchases and had them delivered to your home address?

You really need to think about these things.

 

[holy ghost]

youre not
your going to take it like a man

shut your trap and not snitch

youve never been to jail before have you.

 

[craw_dad]

without a warrant for arrest or for entry to my clean house i would smile and close the door.

Eddy, excellent point! See there if I was LE I would have known that.

BUT is an IP address, your home address along with emails from your IP address showing your business transactions going to be enough to persuade a judge to issue a warrant? Personally I dont think so but you never know how far LE is going to want to push this.

Anyway, Im done here....

Peace

 

[eddymerckx]

Eddy, excellent point! See there if I was LE I would have known that.

BUT is an IP address, your home address along with emails from your IP address showing your business transactions going to be enough to persuade a judge to issue a warrant? Personally I dont think so but you never know how far LE is going to want to push this.

Anyway, Im done here....

Peace

the biggest problem with this information they have is that it is old--a judge will not issue a warrant on stale information (in some circumstances stale can be days old). that is not to say that you will not get some harassment or that they will not watch the ip for new transactions.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

I havent heard of any yet, but that doesnt mean it hasnt happened. I mean Im sure LE isnt going to come and post here how they just nabbed a xcustomer of "so and so".

Also Im so sick of hearing these know it alls on this baord, who just jopined in the past yr, post all day and have 1 cycle under theuir belts claim ," THEY WONT GO AFTER CUSTOMERS" OH YEAH, WELL HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW??????

If this were happening, you could find local stories through Google, or you would be hearing about it on the boards not from LE, but from others. Nobody has yet provided a link to a case of Joe User busted for conspiracy to buy without actual possession. Yeah, it may exist, and someday it might happen, and there may be flying pigs, too or they may fly in the future, but somehow this seems unlikely. You might get hit by a car tomorrow too. Big deal. You going to chew your nails and worry about it every day?

 

[Harleymarleybone]

no way in hell are they gonna go after EVERY individual user....that would prolly be over 200,000 people!! i could see them going after individuals who bought HUGE quantities

Exactly right. Say there were 200,000 buyers in the States from all the labs, or let's say only 100,000 - a very conservative estimate. That would be 2000 per state. But large states like California or New York would be over represented since they have much larger populations -probably double that amount or more.
So by the logic of the hysterical fear-mongers on this board, the states are going to burden their LE and judiciary with investigating several thousands of cases with several thousands of subpoenas, warrants, etc. to catch little Joe User who is probably no longer in possession, and charge him with months old conspiracy, when nobody on this board can even find a case of conspiracy (for Joe User) without possession. Right. Very realistic.

 

[craw_dad]

If this were happening, you could find local stories through Google, or you would be hearing about it on the boards not from LE, but from others. Nobody has yet provided a link to a case of Joe User busted for conspiracy to buy without actual possession. Yeah, it may exist, and someday it might happen, and there may be flying pigs, too or they may fly in the future, but somehow this seems unlikely. You might get hit by a car tomorrow too. Big deal. You going to chew your nails and worry about it every day?

Harley, LE literally has hundreds of thousands of emails to go through. From what I've read it's going to take months before they sort through all of them.
"Hundreds of thousands of e-mails were intercepted, according to Dan Simmons, a San Diego-based special agent for the DEA. Simmons said that no professional athletes have been implicated so far but that the e-mails are being compiled into a massive database of names and are being analyzed."
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3033532

the biggest problem with this information they have is that it is old--a judge will not issue a warrant on stale information (in some circumstances stale can be days old). that is not to say that you will not get some harassment or that they will not watch the ip for new transactions.

eddy... interesting.
What about the athletes that train for the Olympics, the collegiate athlete or the professional athlete, does that apply to them as well? Where does LE draw the line?

 

[eddymerckx]

eddy... interesting.
What about the athletes that train for the Olympics, the collegiate athlete or the professional athlete, does that apply to them as well? Where does LE draw the line?

as far as protection from criminal prosecution-yes, they have the same rights as everyone else---however, what the respective governing bodies would do with the info is another matter alltogether (although I an usure if le could release that info to those orgs--real privacy issue).

 

[Harleymarleybone]

Harley, LE literally has hundreds of thousands of emails to go through. From what I've read it's going to take months before they sort through all of them.
"Hundreds of thousands of e-mails were intercepted, according to Dan Simmons, a San Diego-based special agent for the DEA. Simmons said that no professional athletes have been implicated so far but that the e-mails are being compiled into a massive database of names and are being analyzed."
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3033532


Yes, I know that is what they said. It is a very large step from saying they are analyzing to analyzing, and an even larger step from analyzing and "identifying" to doing anything about it with respect to average Joe User.

 

[jmead]

can we get an updated listed of labs? i cant read all 40 pages in one sitting.. thanks

 

[jmead]

when did osoca get busted? how long was he cooperating? i cant pull up the pdf file..

 

[havenlock]

I'm not sure where the most up-to-date list. Different forums have lists.. I'll see if I can put one together.