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Im just lifting and slowly progressing for a few weeks then I taper off and start again with different programming. I think I’ll follow this format on cycle as well, I enjoy it.
 
And he can’t walk now
That has nothing to do with his training style. He got a back injury playing football in high school. Bad surgery is what fucked it up worse.
 
Here is my midweek update, very hungry after legs.
Weights:
Week 2MondaySetsRepsWeight
3/18/2024​
Bench Press Wide grip39,9,7225
Bench Press Incline36,6,6190
JM Press barbell38,8,755
Barbell Bent Over row210,8190I could have done 8 more I think
Cable Tricep pushdown with strap31050
Chest Supported Row (dumbbell)213,1270
Dumbell curl (altetrnating)32035
Barbell Upright row3985
Barbell Shrug211,10230
Tuesday
Walking weighted lunges with kettlebells32052lbs(26ea)
Front Squat37,7,6100
Barbell Squat (close stance with Lfiting shoes on)37265
Barbell Hip Thrust `312190
Barbell good morning(High bar)39,9,895
Barebell Calf raise320,20,18210
Deadlift37,5,3285

Diet:
3/18/2024​
Protein
42​
25​
45​
20​
20​
40​
40​
232​
Fat
15​
0​
15​
24​
9​
5​
2​
70​
Carbs
38​
22​
30​
35​
29​
35​
30​
219​
Protein shake , oatmeal and walnutsProtein shake post workoutSteamed chicken thighs in sugar free teriyaki and green onions and peppers on white rice2oz brie and walnuts, two tangerinesRedcon MRE barShredded chicken and sweet potatoCauliflower pasta with marinara and a protein shake with almondmilk and nf milk
3/19/2024​
Protein
35​
30​
12​
20​
25​
45​
20​
45​
232​
Fat
38​
0​
2​
9​
0​
17​
24​
14​
104​
Carbs
45​
2​
40​
29​
22​
40​
35​
40​
253​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, Bowl of oats and walnuts.Shredded chicken after workout of legsCauliflower pasta with MarinaraRedcon MRE barProtein shake post workoutSpinach salad, shredded chicken,walnuts, tangerines, black olives, feta,bell peppers and vinagerette.2oz brie and walnuts, two tangerinesShredded chicken thighs and rice with carrots

I feel off taking Wednesday off on a 4 day program because I have the entire weekend off now and miss the weights. I do feel stronger on Monday chest than I normally would, I can tell that diet and extra time off is really beneficial, I'm sure this is even more noticeable on cycle.
Just like my diet less is more, I'd venture to guess that less lifting equals more gains in the big picture, I am now grasping rest and how it helps the body recover more efficiently.


See you guys in a few days.
 
Here is my midweek update, very hungry after legs.
Weights:
Week 2MondaySetsRepsWeight
3/18/2024​
Bench Press Wide grip39,9,7225
Bench Press Incline36,6,6190
JM Press barbell38,8,755
Barbell Bent Over row210,8190I could have done 8 more I think
Cable Tricep pushdown with strap31050
Chest Supported Row (dumbbell)213,1270
Dumbell curl (altetrnating)32035
Barbell Upright row3985
Barbell Shrug211,10230
Tuesday
Walking weighted lunges with kettlebells32052lbs(26ea)
Front Squat37,7,6100
Barbell Squat (close stance with Lfiting shoes on)37265
Barbell Hip Thrust `312190
Barbell good morning(High bar)39,9,895
Barebell Calf raise320,20,18210
Deadlift37,5,3285

Diet:
3/18/2024​
Protein
42​
25​
45​
20​
20​
40​
40​
232​
Fat
15​
0​
15​
24​
9​
5​
2​
70​
Carbs
38​
22​
30​
35​
29​
35​
30​
219​
Protein shake , oatmeal and walnutsProtein shake post workoutSteamed chicken thighs in sugar free teriyaki and green onions and peppers on white rice2oz brie and walnuts, two tangerinesRedcon MRE barShredded chicken and sweet potatoCauliflower pasta with marinara and a protein shake with almondmilk and nf milk
3/19/2024​
Protein
35​
30​
12​
20​
25​
45​
20​
45​
232​
Fat
38​
0​
2​
9​
0​
17​
24​
14​
104​
Carbs
45​
2​
40​
29​
22​
40​
35​
40​
253​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, Bowl of oats and walnuts.Shredded chicken after workout of legsCauliflower pasta with MarinaraRedcon MRE barProtein shake post workoutSpinach salad, shredded chicken,walnuts, tangerines, black olives, feta,bell peppers and vinagerette.2oz brie and walnuts, two tangerinesShredded chicken thighs and rice with carrots

I feel off taking Wednesday off on a 4 day program because I have the entire weekend off now and miss the weights. I do feel stronger on Monday chest than I normally would, I can tell that diet and extra time off is really beneficial, I'm sure this is even more noticeable on cycle.
Just like my diet less is more, I'd venture to guess that less lifting equals more gains in the big picture, I am now grasping rest and how it helps the body recover more efficiently.


See you guys in a few days.
@man05 I see your protein is staying high I love that.

reps you can do more volume IMO you did it before i remember
 
Boots or lifting shoes for me too
Mobster how conservative do I need to be on the front squats in terms of weight increase? I feel I can go 5-10lbs each week. It’s an amazing movement thank you for exposing me to this one. Difficult at first due to mechanics but I’m getting the hang of it. I’ll look into hat fields in the fall.

Thank you
 
@man05 I see your protein is staying high I love that.

reps you can do more volume IMO you did it before i remember
I’m focusing on 7-8 reps mostly with exception to other movements. Wanting to build and maintain some strength. I was doing higher reps to cut mostly and I was on cycle then. I am trying to keep about 1 rep in reserve with my reps as I use a slower movement on my reps. Goal is 4 + sets at 5-7 reps in the coming weeks.
 
as long as you are using correct form on those squats that's the important thing
 
Bros or you can train Barefoot if it's allowed
I wear barefoot shoes with a heel, they really help me.
 
I would fluctuate and do a heavy day and then a light day after it with your splits
What sort of reduction in weight on those light days with higher reps? 225 bench heavy let’s say and 180 higher reps say 3-4 sets of 18-20? Would .20 be a good percentage range in reduction or are you saying further reduction then more high rep sets?

Thank you
 
I would fluctuate and do a heavy day and then a light day after it with your splits
You mean alternating those splits so M/T heavy then Th/F lighter weights more reps. Would that weight then be .20-.30 reduction in the weight that was used during a heavy set?
 
What sort of reduction in weight on those light days with higher reps? 225 bench heavy let’s say and 180 higher reps say 3-4 sets of 18-20? Would .20 be a good percentage range in reduction or are you saying further reduction then more high rep sets?

Thank you
@man05 I would say 180 for 20 reps 4 sets but with 225 go lower reps
go up and down on volume
 
very good sign that you are getting Hunger post-workout it means your body is very healthy inside
100% Much different than the guys slamming a protein shake before training, taking an intra-workout drink, slamming another shake after training......and then wondering why they feel like they are going to puke.
 
Saturday night update, guess I ahve more free time not lifting.

Meals
3/21/2024​
Protein
35​
30​
35​
30​
20​
20​
30​
30​
230​
Fat
45​
5​
7​
8​
36​
9​
7​
0​
117​
Carbs
45​
45​
8​
35​
38​
29​
12​
30​
242​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyProtein shake on the go.Almond milk protein shake with some whey - post workoutShredded chicken thighs and rice with carrots2oz brie and handful walnuts, two tangerinesRedcon MRE barFried chicken pattyProtein shake feeling kinda hungry
3/22/2024​
Protein
35​
36​
40​
20​
40​
15​
30​
35​
251​
Fat
45​
2​
15​
9​
15​
24​
10​
8​
128​
Carbs
45​
5​
40​
29​
40​
44​
25​
45​
273​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyPost workout shakeShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceRedcon MRE barShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white rice3 cups spinach with vinaigrette, walnuts, tangerines and fetaYogurt and 1/4 raw oats with walnutsFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, almond milk and water, 1/2 cup NF milk
3/23/2024​
Protein
35​
40​
20​
30​
10​
30​
30​
35​
230​
Fat
45​
15​
35​
6​
24​
10​
8​
8​
151​
Carbs
45​
40​
50​
30​
44​
25​
24​
45​
303​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceBrie, fruit and walnuts and some grain crackersGrass fed milk protein milk and fruit and nuts.3 cups spinach with vinaigrette, walnuts, tangerines and fetaYogurt and 1/4 raw oats with walnutsStuffed bell peppers, ground turkey, olives, raising, spices, rice, parm cheeseFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, 1 cup NF milk and water
Weights:
Thursday
Bench press (cambered bar)38,7,6200
Dumbbell Skullcrusher340
Hammer Curl31040
Hammer Curl(drop set)320,16,2030
Palms in Bicep pull down (cable)310,8,8130
Dumbell upright row3840
Meadows Row38100
Close Grip Landmine Row38130
Lat Pull Down Wide grip (cable)210115
Friday
Walking weighted lunges with kettlebells31652
Front Squat310100
Barbell good morning(High bar)28100
Barbell Squat (cambered bar)48,8,8,7260
Barbell Calf Raises325,30,30205
Barbell Hip Thrust `310205
Stiff Legged Deadlift26,4285

Next week I will drop some weight and go for more reps on the last two days of the week, first 2 I'm staying 7-8 reps 3 sets.
Goals is to stay 18-22 sets per day. I am having to look at what exercises I really need as Primary and then do less of the secondary movements.
So far 4 days is really easy, not sure if 4 or 5 days per week is best when on cycle. Next Cycle will be TBOL, Test and EQ for 12 or so weeks. a few more weeks, blood tests then hopefully if all looks well then I shall procced, if not I will continue to cruise along.

Have a great night guys


mark
 
As to the cambered bench press, that bar makes weight feel extra heavy, planning to drop down to 170 or so and push hard for 20. The bar ads 4" extra depth so you really get stretched wide pressing, I like it.
 
Saturday night update, guess I ahve more free time not lifting.

Meals
3/21/2024​
Protein
35​
30​
35​
30​
20​
20​
30​
30​
230​
Fat
45​
5​
7​
8​
36​
9​
7​
0​
117​
Carbs
45​
45​
8​
35​
38​
29​
12​
30​
242​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyProtein shake on the go.Almond milk protein shake with some whey - post workoutShredded chicken thighs and rice with carrots2oz brie and handful walnuts, two tangerinesRedcon MRE barFried chicken pattyProtein shake feeling kinda hungry
3/22/2024​
Protein
35​
36​
40​
20​
40​
15​
30​
35​
251​
Fat
45​
2​
15​
9​
15​
24​
10​
8​
128​
Carbs
45​
5​
40​
29​
40​
44​
25​
45​
273​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyPost workout shakeShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceRedcon MRE barShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white rice3 cups spinach with vinaigrette, walnuts, tangerines and fetaYogurt and 1/4 raw oats with walnutsFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, almond milk and water, 1/2 cup NF milk
3/23/2024​
Protein
35​
40​
20​
30​
10​
30​
30​
35​
230​
Fat
45​
15​
35​
6​
24​
10​
8​
8​
151​
Carbs
45​
40​
50​
30​
44​
25​
24​
45​
303​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceBrie, fruit and walnuts and some grain crackersGrass fed milk protein milk and fruit and nuts.3 cups spinach with vinaigrette, walnuts, tangerines and fetaYogurt and 1/4 raw oats with walnutsStuffed bell peppers, ground turkey, olives, raising, spices, rice, parm cheeseFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, 1 cup NF milk and water
Weights:
Thursday
Bench press (cambered bar)38,7,6200
Dumbbell Skullcrusher340
Hammer Curl31040
Hammer Curl(drop set)320,16,2030
Palms in Bicep pull down (cable)310,8,8130
Dumbell upright row3840
Meadows Row38100
Close Grip Landmine Row38130
Lat Pull Down Wide grip (cable)210115
Friday
Walking weighted lunges with kettlebells31652
Front Squat310100
Barbell good morning(High bar)28100
Barbell Squat (cambered bar)48,8,8,7260
Barbell Calf Raises325,30,30205
Barbell Hip Thrust `310205
Stiff Legged Deadlift26,4285

Next week I will drop some weight and go for more reps on the last two days of the week, first 2 I'm staying 7-8 reps 3 sets.
Goals is to stay 18-22 sets per day. I am having to look at what exercises I really need as Primary and then do less of the secondary movements.
So far 4 days is really easy, not sure if 4 or 5 days per week is best when on cycle. Next Cycle will be TBOL, Test and EQ for 12 or so weeks. a few more weeks, blood tests then hopefully if all looks well then I shall procced, if not I will continue to cruise along.

Have a great night guys


mark
@man05 a few more reps is good and you have higher carbs should be easy for you now

4 days on and take 2 days off to see
next cycle when you plan this? i think you can start April

thanks for the share waiting for more updates
 
@man05 a few more reps is good and you have higher carbs should be easy for you now

4 days on and take 2 days off to see
next cycle when you plan this? i think you can start April

thanks for the share waiting for more updates
Should bloods look good then April will be start, if not I just keep doing my thing I’m happy either way . I’m on M,W,Th,F with 3 days off at the moment and it’s about perfect I think right now cruising.
 
can't wait to see your updated blood work
I will post a trainwreck of blood results I took foolishly 5 days after I stopped primo, test, var and weeks prior some pharma mix 5 I was running as a pre workout, a total mess. The next set of bloods should reflect more accurately.
 
This is my best meal yet out of the insta pot.
Chicken thighs skin and fat removed , with low sodium terriaki and sesame marinade, carrots and rice. I have found carrots digest very to digest.
Roughly 40/50/15 macro break down per serving
 

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looks good man the food is definitely making me hungry
 
bros That looks like a delicious meal
It is just bought 10lbs of thighs so I can eat on this all week with fruit and vegetables. Learning to eat properly makes all the difference Ive learned.
Egg plant and chickpeas with curry is the next major kitchen experiment I’ll start this week.
 
As to the cambered bench press, that bar makes weight feel extra heavy, planning to drop down to 170 or so and push hard for 20. The bar ads 4" extra depth so you really get stretched wide pressing, I like it.
As per a comment I read elsewhere it's ironic how many, when using as straight bar, don't touch the chest but like a cambered bar. It also comes with a risk of injury
 
I have to touch the chest with both. The extra stretch makes pushing the equal amount jog weight for me more challenging, I prefer it for the higher reps.
 
Saturday night update, guess I ahve more free time not lifting.

Meals
3/21/2024​
Protein
35​
30​
35​
30​
20​
20​
30​
30​
230​
Fat
45​
5​
7​
8​
36​
9​
7​
0​
117​
Carbs
45​
45​
8​
35​
38​
29​
12​
30​
242​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyProtein shake on the go.Almond milk protein shake with some whey - post workoutShredded chicken thighs and rice with carrots2oz brie and handful walnuts, two tangerinesRedcon MRE barFried chicken pattyProtein shake feeling kinda hungry
3/22/2024​
Protein
35​
36​
40​
20​
40​
15​
30​
35​
251​
Fat
45​
2​
15​
9​
15​
24​
10​
8​
128​
Carbs
45​
5​
40​
29​
40​
44​
25​
45​
273​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyPost workout shakeShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceRedcon MRE barShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white rice3 cups spinach with vinaigrette, walnuts, tangerines and fetaYogurt and 1/4 raw oats with walnutsFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, almond milk and water, 1/2 cup NF milk
3/23/2024​
Protein
35​
40​
20​
30​
10​
30​
30​
35​
230​
Fat
45​
15​
35​
6​
24​
10​
8​
8​
151​
Carbs
45​
40​
50​
30​
44​
25​
24​
45​
303​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceBrie, fruit and walnuts and some grain crackersGrass fed milk protein milk and fruit and nuts.3 cups spinach with vinaigrette, walnuts, tangerines and fetaYogurt and 1/4 raw oats with walnutsStuffed bell peppers, ground turkey, olives, raising, spices, rice, parm cheeseFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, 1 cup NF milk and water
Weights:
Thursday
Bench press (cambered bar)38,7,6200
Dumbbell Skullcrusher340
Hammer Curl31040
Hammer Curl(drop set)320,16,2030
Palms in Bicep pull down (cable)310,8,8130
Dumbell upright row3840
Meadows Row38100
Close Grip Landmine Row38130
Lat Pull Down Wide grip (cable)210115
Friday
Walking weighted lunges with kettlebells31652
Front Squat310100
Barbell good morning(High bar)28100
Barbell Squat (cambered bar)48,8,8,7260
Barbell Calf Raises325,30,30205
Barbell Hip Thrust `310205
Stiff Legged Deadlift26,4285

Next week I will drop some weight and go for more reps on the last two days of the week, first 2 I'm staying 7-8 reps 3 sets.
Goals is to stay 18-22 sets per day. I am having to look at what exercises I really need as Primary and then do less of the secondary movements.
So far 4 days is really easy, not sure if 4 or 5 days per week is best when on cycle. Next Cycle will be TBOL, Test and EQ for 12 or so weeks. a few more weeks, blood tests then hopefully if all looks well then I shall procced, if not I will continue to cruise along.

Have a great night guys


mark
great update here
 
Excellent work as always! Keep grinding 💪
It’s not even a grind when your eating properly, heck the food I’m eating fuels me and tastes great.
I’ve learned a ton from Steve, lots of common sense things. Going to try to fast one day a week now and even on cycle.
 
It’s not even a grind when your eating properly, heck the food I’m eating fuels me and tastes great.
I’ve learned a ton from Steve, lots of common sense things. Going to try to fast one day a week now and even on cycle.
Steve is a fantastic gentleman that is for certain, I've had the pleasure of speaking with him on the podcast a few times now, I absolutely love getting invited on its so much fun.

Keep it up brother you got my full support!
 
Here is the first half of my splits this week.

Week 3MondaySetsRepsWeight
3/25/2024​
Bench Press Wide grip46,6,7,5230
Bench Press Incline36,6,6195
JM Press barbell310,10,855
Barbell Bent Over row210,8195
Cable Tricep pushdown with strap31050
Chest Supported Row (dumbbell)214,1370lb each (140lb)
Dumbell curl (altetrnating)32035
Barbell Upright row31085
Barbell Shrug211,10235
Tuesday
Walking weighted lunges with kettlebells32052lbs(26ea)
Front Squat38100
Barbell Squat (close stance with Lfiting shoes on)36275
Barbell Hip Thrust `410205
Barbell good morning(High bar)310,10,995
Barebell Calf raise320,20,18215
Deadlift35,5,3290

Here are my meals from Monday and Tuesday, will update Wed - Friday Friday evening.

3/25/2024​
Protein
35​
35​
40​
20​
20​
40​
15​
25​
230​
Fat
45​
4​
15​
35​
9​
15​
12​
8​
143​
Carbs
45​
4​
40​
50​
29​
40​
28​
50​
286​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyPost workout whey shakeShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceBrie, fruit and walnuts and two tangerinesRedcon MRE barShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceGlass of NF milk and banana with 10 - 12 almondsFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, water.
3/26/2024​
Protein
35​
25​
45​
20​
20​
35​
35​
20​
235​
Fat
45​
4​
15​
35​
9​
15​
10​
8​
141​
Carbs
45​
2​
55​
50​
29​
40​
55​
50​
326​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyPost workout whey shakeSmall amount of strip steak, 3/4 cup white rice, garbonzo bean and eggplant curryBrie, fruit and walnuts and two tangerinesRedcon MRE barShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceStuffed bell peppers with olives, rice, ground turkey, raisins, parmessan cheese nd stewed tomoatosFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, water.

So far I am enjoying 4 day a week program and not sure that I will go to a 5 day program unless that makes more sense which would allow me to focus on body part specific training. The extra rest makes a lot of difference to me.

Have a good one guys
 
Here is the first half of my splits this week.

Week 3MondaySetsRepsWeight
3/25/2024​
Bench Press Wide grip46,6,7,5230
Bench Press Incline36,6,6195
JM Press barbell310,10,855
Barbell Bent Over row210,8195
Cable Tricep pushdown with strap31050
Chest Supported Row (dumbbell)214,1370lb each (140lb)
Dumbell curl (altetrnating)32035
Barbell Upright row31085
Barbell Shrug211,10235
Tuesday
Walking weighted lunges with kettlebells32052lbs(26ea)
Front Squat38100
Barbell Squat (close stance with Lfiting shoes on)36275
Barbell Hip Thrust `410205
Barbell good morning(High bar)310,10,995
Barebell Calf raise320,20,18215
Deadlift35,5,3290

Here are my meals from Monday and Tuesday, will update Wed - Friday Friday evening.

3/25/2024​
Protein
35​
35​
40​
20​
20​
40​
15​
25​
230​
Fat
45​
4​
15​
35​
9​
15​
12​
8​
143​
Carbs
45​
4​
40​
50​
29​
40​
28​
50​
286​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyPost workout whey shakeShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceBrie, fruit and walnuts and two tangerinesRedcon MRE barShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceGlass of NF milk and banana with 10 - 12 almondsFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, water.
3/26/2024​
Protein
35​
25​
45​
20​
20​
35​
35​
20​
235​
Fat
45​
4​
15​
35​
9​
15​
10​
8​
141​
Carbs
45​
2​
55​
50​
29​
40​
55​
50​
326​
4 scrambled eggs, cheese and taco sauce, 1/2 Cup oatmeal with Walnuts and half tsp honeyPost workout whey shakeSmall amount of strip steak, 3/4 cup white rice, garbonzo bean and eggplant curryBrie, fruit and walnuts and two tangerinesRedcon MRE barShredded chicken thighs, carrots and white riceStuffed bell peppers with olives, rice, ground turkey, raisins, parmessan cheese nd stewed tomoatosFruit smoothie; strawberry, banana, scoop of whey, water.

So far I am enjoying 4 day a week program and not sure that I will go to a 5 day program unless that makes more sense which would allow me to focus on body part specific training. The extra rest makes a lot of difference to me.

Have a good one guys
@man05 4/d/week thats good but dont go to 5 days if you feel tired
maybe on day 5 do all cardio
 
I have dropped the tricep cable push down with strap for 3 sets. The 5 day program I sort of have to name some extra in in order to hit everything.
I have written a five day program as well with a couple less exercises.

This is Monday less the tri strap push down:

man05 said:
Here is the first half of my splits this week.
man05 said:
Here is the first half of my splits this week.

Week 3MondaySetsRepsWeight
3/25/2024Bench Press Wide grip46,6,7,5230
Bench Press Incline36,6,6195
JM Press barbell310,10,855
Barbell Bent Over row210,8195
Chest Supported Row (dumbbell)214,1370lb each (140lb)
Dumbell curl (altetrnating)32035
Barbell Upright row31085
Barbell Shrug211,10235

this is only 8 exercises and my set goal is 18-22 max. Thoughts?
 
@man05 4/d/week thats good but dont go to 5 days if you feel tired
maybe on day 5 do all cardio
Not feeling tired, however this 4 day program I do feel that I have to jam extra sets to hit everything, I like weekends off to rest/ recover have some extra time. Wednesday is nice as well I can lift or do cardio. I’m trying to hit major muscles twice per week on the 4 day with first two days going heavy followed by higher reps the last two days for endurance and cardio haha.
 
45 to 50 minutes of weight training that's the max I would do
 
Sounds like maybe a five day program with 6-8 exercises per day, no more than 18-22 sets, heavy sets 5-7 reps, lighter sets 15+ reps with a .25-.3 reduction in weight. I’m trying to dial in my program before I work with Eq cycle, I feel that diet has really improved, not over training etc.

If not a 5 day program then I stick with 4 and have to sacrifice maybe down to one tricep and one bicep on the splits, the JM AND Skull crushers have made my bench much more solid and I’d like to keep doing them.

Thanks for the feedback guys
 
Here is my proposed 5day Meso cycle for six weeks, week six is a deloading week, I would then restructure this program for six more weeks after the first one and so on.

The 4 week program has 32 exercises in 4 days, the 5 day program has 29 exercises and only two days with 21 reps, the rest are 19 and 20. I estimated my time per exercise moderately and I still have wiggle room for more recovery if needed. I usually like to do some cardio in the morning with a slow easy jog and couple big sprints on grass, I'll have a wind bike in the next month for extra cardio options, as i plan to get 30+ per day or eod. Here is my breakdown, Id appreciate your feedback as I try to dial this in, I think I'm getting closer. When I compare what I was doing a year ago that was totally overtraining.

Here is that Program I'm tinkering with.
Proposed 5 day program while on cycle
5 Day ProgramMinutesSetsRepsWeight (aprox)
Monday
Walking Lunges with 106lbs7310106Heavy
Barbell good morning738125Heavy
Front Squat836-8135Heavy
Barbell Squat735-7275Heavy
Barbell Calf raise6312-Aug230Heavy* added in 3x week not including total reps
Barbell Hip Thrust538245Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4018
Tuesday
Bench Press Wide1045-7245Heavy
Bench Press Incline845-7210Heavy
Dumbbell Skullcrusher836-840Heavy
JM press Barbell735-760Heavy
Barebell Upright row746-895Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4018
Wednesday
Barbell Bent over row735-7200Heavy
Chest Supported dumbbell row735-785Heavy
Pulldown wide grip636-8145Heavy
Dumbbell lat raises (thumbs down)538-1015Light
Hammer Curl736-845Heavy
Close Grip Landmine735-7130Heavy
Barbell Shrug735-7250Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4621
Reduced Weight / Higher Reps below for last two splits (Thursday and Friday)
Thursday
Walking Lunges10430BodyWeightBody Weight
Barbell Good Morning739512.25 - .3 reduced weight
Front Squat9411515.25 - .3 reduced weight
Barebell Squat10422525.25 - .3 reduced weight
Barbell Squat (high rep)211655050 reps here reduced
Barebell Calf Raise6330185.25 - .3 reduced weight
Deadlift7315-20200Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets5121
Friday
Bench Press Medium grip10415180.25 - .3 reduced weight
Dumbell incline low angle10415170
DumbbellUpright Row841530.25 - .3 reduced weight
Tricep straight bar push down8412-1650.25 - .3 reduced weight
Dumbbell Skullcrusher1041260lbs.25 - .3 reduced weight
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4620
 
Monstro says as long as you don't over-train certain muscle groups you are fine with a five-day split
 
I would honestly stick to 20 sets maximum don't even try to get 22
Okay I’m getting close, does programming look good? I think the 5 day is the only way to spread things out without cramming it in. Take the weekend off to recover and keep my cardio going.

I also have a 4 day scenario going but am wondering if it’s enough to grow.
 
your biceps and triceps don't need much volume to have growth
So working them once per week should be fine and then swap out exercises.
 
So I have Triceps 2 times a week and biceps once.
Wednesday is heavy back, Tuesday and Friday chest emphasis, legs Monday and Thursday.
I have no set total greater than 20, I can cut as necessary. I have reviewed with Steve and he' pretty much said the same thing as you guys, I just needed clarification to better grasp how to structure. I plan to tweak exercises during this program and into the next cycle.

Here is a copy of what I am looking to follow for six weeks then I will create another 6 week plan with some different exercises. I will take pictures the Day I start the next cycle and post one every 4 weeks.

Thanks for all the support and awesome feedback.

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So I have Triceps 2 times a week and biceps once.
Wednesday is heavy back, Tuesday and Friday chest emphasis, legs Monday and Thursday.
I have no set total greater than 20, I can cut as necessary. I have reviewed with Steve and he' pretty much said the same thing as you guys, I just needed clarification to better grasp how to structure. I plan to tweak exercises during this program and into the next cycle.

Here is a copy of what I am looking to follow for six weeks then I will create another 6 week plan with some different exercises. I will take pictures the Day I start the next cycle and post one every 4 weeks.

Thanks for all the support and awesome feedback.

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Nice training and update
 
So I have Triceps 2 times a week and biceps once.
Wednesday is heavy back, Tuesday and Friday chest emphasis, legs Monday and Thursday.
I have no set total greater than 20, I can cut as necessary. I have reviewed with Steve and he' pretty much said the same thing as you guys, I just needed clarification to better grasp how to structure. I plan to tweak exercises during this program and into the next cycle.

Here is a copy of what I am looking to follow for six weeks then I will create another 6 week plan with some different exercises. I will take pictures the Day I start the next cycle and post one every 4 weeks.

Thanks for all the support and awesome feedback.

View attachment 142988
@man05 thats awesome I like today
can you copy and paste that text here? please
 
Here is a copy from excel, this is the program that I am going to stick with and change after six weeks when I run Test / EQ in a couple weeks.
I increase weight about 5-8lbs per week based on how I feel from each exercise. I use pain threshold of 1-4, recovery of 1-4 and so on to develop my increases. Week six of this program IO drop drastically like 60% of the weight comes off and all the reps are really low to deload my body.
When I come back after the deload I can then start the first week of my next 6 week meso pushing heavier weight with good form than I could on week 1 of the previous MESO and I just increase again with the goal of week 5 being 10-20lbs heavier than the previous week 5. This methodology combined with the feedback from the guys on this forum keeps me safe, not burned out or stale. If you want to see stupid go look at MY TRT DECA log, I trained like a fool and my diet is embarrassing to even look at. After cycle I will cruise and recover again on a 4 day program since I cannot always recover as quickly when not using peds.

Proposed 5 day program while on cycle
MinutesSetsRepsWeight (aprox)
Monday
Walking Lunges with weight10310106Heavy
Barbell good morning738125Heavy
Front Squat846-8125Heavy
Barbell Squat835-7275Heavy
Barbell Calf raise6310-12230Heavy
Barbell Hip Thrust638245Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4519
Tuesday
BP1Bench Press Wide1045-7245Heavy
Bench Press Incline1045-7210Heavy
Dumbell incline low angle835-7130
T1/T2JM press Barbell735-760Heavy
Barbell Upright row746-895Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4218
Wednesday
Barbell Bent over row735-7200Heavy
Chest Supported dumbbell row735-785Heavy
Pulldown wide grip636-8145Heavy
Dumbbell lat raises (thumbs down)528-1015Light
B1/B3Hammer Curl736-845Heavy
Close Grip Landmine735-7130Heavy
Barbell Shrug735-7250Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4620
Reduced Weight / Higher Reps below for last two splits (Thursday and Friday)
Thursday
Walking Lunges10330BodyWeightBody Weight
Barbell Good Morning731295.25 - .3 reduced weight
Front Squat9314-1695.25 - .3 reduced weight
Barbell Squat10416-18205.25 - .3 reduced weight
Barbell Squat (high rep)8135-5016550 reps here reduced
Barebell Calf Raise6330185.25 - .3 reduced weight
Deadlift735-7290Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets5720
Friday
Bench Press Medium grip10416180.25 - .3 reduced weight
Dumbell incline low angle10416170
Flat chest flyes1041635lbs ea (70)
DumbbellUpright Row831530.25 - .3 reduced weight
T2/B3Dumbbell Skullcrusher1031560lbs.25 - .3 reduced weight
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4818
Alternatives:
To be alternated as necessary
T1Tricep straight bar push down8412-1650.25 - .3 reduced weight
B1Dumbbell Skullcrusher836-840Heavy
T2Cable Tricep pushdown with strap837-965Heavy
B2Spider curls8412-1530Reduced weight
B3Alternating Bicep Curls1046-880Heavy
BP1Medium Grip Bench PressHeavy
 
Looks good to me.

Looking forward to seeing how you like this training program. I always have to do barbell squats first just so I have enough energy.
Thats how I was doing at first for many years and one of the guys suggested lunges first and they warm me up really well and get the blood flowing.
Walking lunges with weight are awesome, a favorite of mine.
 
Here is a copy from excel, this is the program that I am going to stick with and change after six weeks when I run Test / EQ in a couple weeks.
I increase weight about 5-8lbs per week based on how I feel from each exercise. I use pain threshold of 1-4, recovery of 1-4 and so on to develop my increases. Week six of this program IO drop drastically like 60% of the weight comes off and all the reps are really low to deload my body.
When I come back after the deload I can then start the first week of my next 6 week meso pushing heavier weight with good form than I could on week 1 of the previous MESO and I just increase again with the goal of week 5 being 10-20lbs heavier than the previous week 5. This methodology combined with the feedback from the guys on this forum keeps me safe, not burned out or stale. If you want to see stupid go look at MY TRT DECA log, I trained like a fool and my diet is embarrassing to even look at. After cycle I will cruise and recover again on a 4 day program since I cannot always recover as quickly when not using peds.

Proposed 5 day program while on cycle
MinutesSetsRepsWeight (aprox)
Monday
Walking Lunges with weight10310106Heavy
Barbell good morning738125Heavy
Front Squat846-8125Heavy
Barbell Squat835-7275Heavy
Barbell Calf raise6310-12230Heavy
Barbell Hip Thrust638245Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4519
Tuesday
BP1Bench Press Wide1045-7245Heavy
Bench Press Incline1045-7210Heavy
Dumbell incline low angle835-7130
T1/T2JM press Barbell735-760Heavy
Barbell Upright row746-895Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4218
Wednesday
Barbell Bent over row735-7200Heavy
Chest Supported dumbbell row735-785Heavy
Pulldown wide grip636-8145Heavy
Dumbbell lat raises (thumbs down)528-1015Light
B1/B3Hammer Curl736-845Heavy
Close Grip Landmine735-7130Heavy
Barbell Shrug735-7250Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4620
Reduced Weight / Higher Reps below for last two splits (Thursday and Friday)
Thursday
Walking Lunges10330BodyWeightBody Weight
Barbell Good Morning731295.25 - .3 reduced weight
Front Squat9314-1695.25 - .3 reduced weight
Barbell Squat10416-18205.25 - .3 reduced weight
Barbell Squat (high rep)8135-5016550 reps here reduced
Barebell Calf Raise6330185.25 - .3 reduced weight
Deadlift735-7290Heavy
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets5720
Friday
Bench Press Medium grip10416180.25 - .3 reduced weight
Dumbell incline low angle10416170
Flat chest flyes1041635lbs ea (70)
DumbbellUpright Row831530.25 - .3 reduced weight
T2/B3Dumbbell Skullcrusher1031560lbs.25 - .3 reduced weight
Total Time Estimate/ Totals Sets4818
Alternatives:
To be alternated as necessary
T1Tricep straight bar push down8412-1650.25 - .3 reduced weight
B1Dumbbell Skullcrusher836-840Heavy
T2Cable Tricep pushdown with strap837-965Heavy
B2Spider curls8412-1530Reduced weight
B3Alternating Bicep Curls1046-880Heavy
BP1Medium Grip Bench PressHeavy
@man05 like like the medium bench heavy but how heavy?
 
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