MY Doc scared the SH*T out of me today.

[Bruce]

how old are you bro

Long strory short. My blood work is back from my 3 month 100mg var, 1 gram test cycle and the results just about knocked my Doc out of her chair. She said that she had never seen anyone with numbers this bad in 17 years of practicing, and Im a prime candidate for a stroke. My HDL was almost zero. She called the lab to retest my sample and confirm that this was the correct number, then booked me to see a cardiologist.

Sorry for the canadian scale, but i cant find a way to convert mmol/litre to nanograms/decilitre for all the americans. If anyone would like to convert these numbers to nanograms/decilitre, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cholesterol 4.80 mmol/l HIGH
HDL 0.45 mmol/L LOW (not sure, but this roughly converts to 2ng/dl
LDL 3.72 mmol/L HIGH
Total ratio 10.7

Whats funny, is that i took all the normal preventative mesures during this cycle, including 30 mins of daily high intensity interval cardio, because I am a huge believer in cardiovascular health.

6 grams fish oil/day
3000mgs garlic
3 tbsp flax oil

NO more VAR for me!!

 

[bilter]

I dont even know what angina is.... so I dont think I have it. ~shrugs~

I have no symptoms at all. My doc says 'I dont know how you can live like that'. lovely... just what you want your doc to tell you.

Does Test effect lipids levels in the same manner? I have all this test waiting for use, but I will wait until the time is right. would it cause me more probs than good?

test also lowers HDL (slightly) but every medical study I have read also shows it lowers ldl at the same time. The ratio stays roughly the same...this is good news. google "testosterone effects on lipid profiles" and you can read up on the subject. I'd post links but I have too many of them

 

[boston789]

Yeah I guess this will change all those people's view on 100mg ed...6, 8, 10, 12 weeks....not a good idea.

 

[sigmund]

Yep, nothing new here unfortunately - oral steroids totally screw with your cholesterol. All orals will impact your lipids, this will vary depending on genetic predisposition, circulating estrogen (non aromatising compounds can be worse, ie Var), using an AI in conjunction with AAS, diet, cardio etc. There isn't much you can do while you’re on to stop this from happening.

However full recovery is certainly possible once you're off and if you do what you can to encourage a positive ratio: eat clean (lots of Veg), drink lots of water, regular cardio and supplement with omegas, sesamax, policolsanol etc. things will return to normal over a few months.

If you get your cholesterol tested just after coming off a 3 month Var cycle (at 100mg e/d), things will look absolutely terrible and a doc reviewing the results will think the worst (not knowing you've been on AAS).

General rule (for me) is don't stay on oral AAS for more than 4 weeks, while ratios are screwed and BP elevated - damage to internal organs is possible over time.

 

[heavy_duty]

Hairloss clean out your PM box.

also see my new post titled "liver, testosterone & cholesterol all fucked after 2 weeks of var."

 

[Maxgain]

looking to lean: How do i convert mmol/l to nanograms/decilitre??

divide by ten and multiply by molecular weight of substance

 

[The_Chemist]

Hairloss clean out your PM box.

also see my new post titled "liver, testosterone & cholesterol all fucked after 2 weeks of var."

Clean...pm me again

 

[tbolking]

my bloodpressure was 160/90 and i was doing 75-90mgvar ed with 600mg week primo...my doc tripple checked....i dropped the cycle that samenight.....started PCT a couple weeks later

 

[heavy_duty]

my BP is fine

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Sorry to hear about this dude but really 100mg a var ED what were you thinking?