MY Doc scared the SH*T out of me today.

[Maetenloch]

bad idea... does more harm than help in some

The statin drugs are pretty effective. A small percentage of people get myopathy from them - if you get muscle pain or weakness, stop taking it immediately. The main reason I reccommend red yeast rice and policosanol is that these are available OTC and usually are cheaper than prescription drugs. Note that the active ingredient in red yeast rice is a naturally occuring statin itself, but just because it's natural doesn't mean that it can't cause side effects in some people.

 

[GymIntensity]

this is exactly the reason I limit (when I do use var which is not often) my use to 4 weeks. even in that amount of time it knocks my HDL from a normal of 82 (I am very lucky here) to 26. And by the way, the negative effects on lipid levels are not dose dependent. 40mg PD are just as bad as 100

Do other bros agree with the last statement in this paragraph?
40mg ED is just as bad as 100? I would think not but would like to hear other opinions.

 

[Dellyo]

all 17aa orals are bad for lipid levels.

What about "Inject" winny? Will it mess with the lipid levels like the orals?

 

[GymIntensity]

What about "Inject" winny? Will it mess with the lipid levels like the orals?

yes its still 17alpha alkylated

 

[heavy_duty]

werent the origianl Var tabs 2.5mg?
they were that size for a reason.

 

[GymIntensity]

werent the origianl Var tabs 2.5mg?
they were that size for a reason.

lol ya ive heard of 3 and 7's before. I guess you have a good point bro

 

[gautho]

bad idea... does more harm than help in some

Lets' argue that fact after you have your first MI or stroke. You can check liver enzymes often and make adjustments if deemed necessary. You can't take back your first coronary event.

 

[heavy_duty]

so if they were 2.5 and for children I wonder what the script was for the kids because some guys are probably taking 20x what a kid would have been prescribed.

 

[FaCkEnBaSsTaRd]

I have been scratching my head also at the dosages some of these people are running also. Time to wake up people and back off the high dosage advice. Alot of parrots around here.

I said it before its unbelievable the dosages that are posted on this forum. Most of these guys probably only did 2 to 4 cycles. It is time to wake up..

 

[bilter]

What about "Inject" winny? Will it mess with the lipid levels like the orals?

yes