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MY Doc scared the SH*T out of me today.

get on policosanol immediately. i had bloodwork after 6 weeks of winstrol and my hdl was 0 and my ldl was 191.

i did policosanol (20 mcg day or 20mg), no-flush niacin (2g a day) and 2g gugglelipids. got it back to normal in 4 months and my doc was floored that i was able to correct it back to 50 hdl 130 ldl in 16 weeks.

i no longer cycle with cholesterol killers. not worth it.
 
Sorry to hear that. My best advice is stop but I guess you already figured that one out. Things should go back to normal once you do. Everyone is different. I have never had an abnormal blood test no matter how much shit I was on and I was on a lot when I used to compete. I guess the best advice is to stay under a docs care.
 
hairlossguru said:
Have you been running Var or Winny? I ask because my bloodwork has been fine over the course of many cycles, unitl starting with the non-aromatizing Orals. Id like Macro or ulter to chime in here and let me know the coralation between the aromatase enzyme and lipid profiles.

var 25mg
primo tabs 50mg

daily

on and off between the two for 6 months
 
Prizz said:
This is why Var lost alot of its' popularity with Men in the mid 90's..... It was a favorite oral for many guys back then, but then guys started reporting screwed up Lipid profiles.... On this very board to be exact..... Personally I avoid orals if possible, they just aren't worth it IMO.... The only exceptions are Proviron, and Dbol since it's such a great Mass builder..... However, with Anavar, you can get similar effects with MANY injectable drugs, so why use it? I never understood its' "comeback" after the year 2000.... I guess more guys are afraid of injecting or something? I don't get it....

rizz
Hey rizz I have no idea but it is alarming how the kids keep "upping the doses" of these orals like Var and Turinabol like it's magic. same thing with tren ace a few years ago-guys taking a gram or so a week of this highly toxic drug that is extremely effective with 1/3 rd that dose a week.
I got tired of arguing with the cats on Bolex and any other board that the younger crowd posts on. Common threads like 100 mg of dball a day etc etc etc.

Winstrol, Var and Turinabol have a wicked effect on the cardiac profile.
Shit I remember when 40 mgs of var was a high dose.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=492677&page=7&pp=20

guess it's the latest phase-thank god the primo pushers are gone from elite. :p
 
MassiveG300 said:
Hey rizz I have no idea but it is alarming how the kids keep "upping the doses" of these orals like Var and Turinabol like it's magic. same thing with tren ace a few years ago-guys taking a gram or so a week of this highly toxic drug that is extremely effective with 1/3 rd that dose a week.
I got tired of arguing with the cats on Bolex and any other board that the younger crowd posts on. Common threads like 100 mg of dball a day etc etc etc.

Winstrol, Var and Turinabol have a wicked effect on the cardiac profile.
Shit I remember when 40 mgs of var was a high dose.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=492677&page=7&pp=20

guess it's the latest phase-thank god the primo pushers are gone from elite. :p


I have been scratching my head also at the dosages some of these people are running also. Time to wake up people and back off the high dosage advice. Alot of parrots around here.
 
you can get gugglelipids and policosanol at gnc or any vitamin place. google will be able to explain their specific effects. i had them recommended to me and looked them up. they had cholesterol building properties so i took them. awesome supplements.

i'm hearing you guys on the high dosages from people with certain drugs.

i loved winstrol, did it 5 or 6 times and then for the hell of it i siad let me see what impact its having on me. i couldnt believe my cholesterol. never again. i was interested in anavar till i heard about the cholesterol effects. no more.
 
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