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My 6 Month Phase Cycling Experiment....

Eh bro .. I have seen some of the cycles mentioned in that book, and I dont really see a whole lot of logic behind them.

For isntance, what is the point of comming off like this inbetween? To make recovery easier? It seems like to much of a rollercoaster IMO. Sure its good to change things up, but right when you come off, and your body finally senses the absence of test, and wants to start firing its furnace back on, you hammer it town again.

If its hardening and bulking transitions that you want to go through, I would just change up your gear choices and yo-yo your diet to reflect the hardenining vs bulking phases. I would run a minimal amount of test as a base throughout the full cycle, maybe drop down the dosage a bit on the time off. Run the test as a base, then run in phases different stacks, and always group class1 and classII steroids together in the stacks.

For instance I like what you are doing, with the drug choice, but I think that you would be better off staying on, until you are ready to come off and fully recover. It just seems like its getting more complex than it needs to be. Based on your drug coices, and trying to phase cycle for mass then hardening, why not try something like this.

MASS:
NPP+Dbol+Test
Diet: Red meats, whole milks, whole eggs, plenty of fats and carbs.

Hardening:
Tren+Winny+Test
Diet: Leaner white meats (fish, chicken turkey etc), skim milk, egg whites, carblesss carbs like veggies etc.

Cycle the different phases as you want, or as you have mentioned, but I would stay on, at least keep the test going slightly throughout the cycle. i dont think that you are setting yourself up for an easier recovery by doing it the way mentioned above.

Dialtone had a pretty cool post on phase cycling like that for hardening and bulking, and adjusting your diet and gear accordingly to each phase. I think that he ran each phase for 3 weeks or so, cant remember, will try to dig it up.

Either way, what you have listed is interesting, i would be curious to here how you make out if you run it like that. And if you find recovery any easier.

Mavy
 
Mavy said:
Eh bro .. I have seen some of the cycles mentioned in that book, and I dont really see a whole lot of logic behind them.

For isntance, what is the point of comming off like this inbetween? To make recovery easier? It seems like to much of a rollercoaster IMO. Sure its good to change things up, but right when you come off, and your body finally senses the absence of test, and wants to start firing its furnace back on, you hammer it town again.

If its hardening and bulking transitions that you want to go through, I would just change up your gear choices and yo-yo your diet to reflect the hardenining vs bulking phases. I would run a minimal amount of test as a base throughout the full cycle, maybe drop down the dosage a bit on the time off. Run the test as a base, then run in phases different stacks, and always group class1 and classII steroids together in the stacks.

For instance I like what you are doing, with the drug choice, but I think that you would be better off staying on, until you are ready to come off and fully recover. It just seems like its getting more complex than it needs to be. Based on your drug coices, and trying to phase cycle for mass then hardening, why not try something like this.

MASS:
NPP+Dbol+Test
Diet: Red meats, whole milks, whole eggs, plenty of fats and carbs.

Hardening:
Tren+Winny+Test
Diet: Leaner white meats (fish, chicken turkey etc), skim milk, egg whites, carblesss carbs like veggies etc.

Cycle the different phases as you want, or as you have mentioned, but I would stay on, at least keep the test going slightly throughout the cycle. i dont think that you are setting yourself up for an easier recovery by doing it the way mentioned above.

Dialtone had a pretty cool post on phase cycling like that for hardening and bulking, and adjusting your diet and gear accordingly to each phase. I think that he ran each phase for 3 weeks or so, cant remember, will try to dig it up.

Either way, what you have listed is interesting, i would be curious to here how you make out if you run it like that. And if you find recovery any easier.

Mavy
I considered something like you said, as far as keeping a minimal amount of test going thru the "off-times" but do you not think that the way i had it lined up (4 weeks on, 5 weeks off) would be better, as far as recovery, than 6 months straight? Just wonder how hard it would be to recover from a 6 month cycle!!! I also contemplated this, tell me what you think:

(GH all the way thru)

Week 1-4
Test, NPP, Dbol

Week 5-10
GH, Slin, T3, (Nolva for 1st 3 weeks)

Week 11-14
Prop/Tren Ace/Var

Week 15-20
GH, Slin, T3, Var

Week 21-24
Prop/Tren Ace/Winny

Followed by full PCT. This gives me the initial "bulking" period for 4 weeks, followed by 6 weeks of recovery, using non-AAS (Gh, T3, Slin) as a bridge. Then hit my 1st round of hardening for 4 weeks, take a break for another 6 with var, along with the "non-AAS" as a bridge, then go for the last 4 weeks with another hardening round, substituting the var for the winny, maybe throw in some Masteron. Followed by a LARGE, LONG, pct.
How's this sound?
 
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Eh bro .. ya, I guess I wasnt paying attention really. I didnt think that you were taking that long off in between (4 weeks on, 5 weeks off) sounds pretty decent. Enough time off to warrant being "off", and its actually longer than "time on" too. Might work out pretty good as long as you use all fast acting gear like you have mentioned.
 
doing 6 months of phase cycling like this is def better than 6 months straight of AAS, as i think you will retain more muscle in this fashion when you are done, BUT the shutdown issue cant be avoided regardless. even with proper pct, it still takes the body a little while to fully return to normal. at least for me, it takes about 4-6 weeks after pct is done (hcg and nolv) to feel normal again. im sure alot of bros on here would agree with me. just jump into this thing accepting that you WILL be shut down for 6 months, but youll only bee administering for 12 of those 24 weeks, which wont be as hard on your system, and recovery might be a lil easier than 6 months straight. def keep us posted though!
 
I'd like to see if this works, but I think this is making things much more complex than they have to be. Why not just bulk, come off, cut, come off, bulk, etc. If you bulk for 10 weeks, then come off for 10, you're not going to lose all your gains when you get back on. With proper pct you should be keeping the majority of those gains. And whatever you lose you'll regain quickly once back on. Regaining is easier than building new muscle tissue. Look at Levrone.
 
Makavelli said:
I'd like to see if this works, but I think this is making things much more complex than they have to be. Why not just bulk, come off, cut, come off, bulk, etc. If you bulk for 10 weeks, then come off for 10, you're not going to lose all your gains when you get back on. With proper pct you should be keeping the majority of those gains. And whatever you lose you'll regain quickly once back on. Regaining is easier than building new muscle tissue. Look at Levrone.
Not everyone likes to run long cycles, and besides, im always looking for a new and improved way to do things. If this works, and the gh/slin/T3 helps to maintain/gain even during my "off periods", ill keep running short 4-5 weekers, but increase the off time maybe up to 7 or 8 weeks, and really get my body used to maintaining gains off of AAS.
Bionic
 
I've always felt short cycles were better for long term progress. I believe you will appreciate the gains you make and retain by doing this. Personally I wouldn't run gh for 6 mo. strait.
 
Mrflx said:
I've always felt short cycles were better for long term progress. I believe you will appreciate the gains you make and retain by doing this. Personally I wouldn't run gh for 6 mo. strait.
Well how long WOULD you suggest running Gh for? All the research Ive done says to run it at least 5 or 6 months to get the full benefits...
Bionic
 
BionicBC said:
Well how long WOULD you suggest running Gh for? All the research Ive done says to run it at least 5 or 6 months to get the full benefits...
Bionic

GH is one thing that you have to run at least 4 months to see results.
 
Makavelli said:
GH is one thing that you have to run at least 4 months to see results.
s'wat i thought.
Bionic
 
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